Uproar over change in SPM Moral paper format, It baffles students and teachers
Uproar over change in SPM Moral paper format, It baffles students and teachers
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Nov 20 2013, 09:49 PM
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Study moral all my life, graduate from high school still end up tidak bermoral(i dont remember a single value that was taught) oh wai
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Nov 20 2013, 09:49 PM
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malas belajar lepastu nak kecoh hurr durr tak straight A pasal pendidikan moral tak dapat A lepastu tak dapat scholarship
siapa suruh malas, nak bebel banyak |
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Nov 20 2013, 09:50 PM
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Nov 20 2013, 09:53 PM
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Nov 20 2013, 09:57 PM
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Nov 20 2013, 10:38 PM
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Nov 20 2013, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(coolsarawak @ Nov 20 2013, 08:33 PM) what I am saying is the reason why more ppl score in BM because BM is easier than Moral. I pointed out how foreigners could learn BM within couple of months to illustrate how accessible the language is i know moral is easy to score A but it is very hard to get an A1/A+, and the 500 students are all non-muslim from smjk so your statement more ppl likely to score better in BM than Moral is invalid.that doesn't make Moral a really hard subject at all tho. even in the article said Moral is an easy score I meant that not all students take Moral (Muslims dont take) but everyone take BM. so if you take total score, then more ppl likely to score better in BM than Moral. tho not sure what the sample group of the table you quoted -- are they all non Muslims? what school tehy goto. |
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Nov 20 2013, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Nov 20 2013, 07:37 PM) Lol, noob. Did you even take maths in high school? Statistic for a state is more than enough to prove my fact. (If you had ever learned maths you will know that this trend will follow and indeed be true for the whole country). lol. at first simply google something showing kelantan statistic of SPM results 2012 , with no information on Pendidikan Islam passing rate or whateverGred Purata means they have summed up all including As, so logically the better the gp, the more people have scored A in moral. And wtf you mean by: "Erm, I was just sacarsm since u so unaccepted of the "truce " u show means nothing at all to proof that" It does not even make a fking sense. Stop humiliating yourself ffs. Anyways I'm stopping here lol, this is no more fun, you guys have no facts to go against me. Numbers speak louder than words. Bye and sorry if I hurt any of your feelings here lul. P.s: I know what you meant sarcastically, but pendidikan islam is still harder than moral. and say "yeeyyayayya I won" Pendidikan Islam is harder than Moral!!!! what gred purate proven Moral harder than Islam? yes, u r not maiking fcking sense. a document showing stats of Kelantan SPM 2012 Moral passing percentage higher than 2011, as for Islam - not showing, could be 100% in year 2012 , and 100% in year 2011, that's why not showing? possible, 100% passing wor... so easy Islam then also show stats higher for kelantan, comparing to National passing rate of Moral , Islam = None again!, so possible or unless u can show me , Islam is not so easy such that everyone passed 100%, national 100%, hence, no increase/decrease? lastly, if you think passing rate can show islam harder than moral, then you should do some research, the national statistic by subjects are still available. Moral passing rate is a bit lower than Islam, so ... Islam still harder la, ok lor... u win last note to add, as i said, no one ever failed Moral not that am aware of and it is not the passing we are ague, the discussion has always about straight As student who get a BOMB on the moral by having B4 C5 etc, so u r saying Moral is so easy but straight As students that can memorize all history, biology and actually not able to memorize nilai. and do u come across any case of Islam the only slipped subject problem for muslims student? and NOW regarding to this case, why only change moral format , and other subjects unaffected? as we all know format will change the way to answer the question and "skema" which is what SPM all about will be different but people like you likes to do ![]() so in conclusion, Yes, Islam more difficult than Moral like u said |
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Nov 20 2013, 10:47 PM
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Nov 20 2013, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 20 2013, 10:43 PM) lol. at first simply google something showing kelantan statistic of SPM results 2012 , with no information on Pendidikan Islam passing rate or whatever No point talking to you dy, everyone else can see how retarded you are right now. Blablablabla I already stated that the figures only show for those subjects that have increment or have surpassed the national average gp. And gp includes A and non-As. and say "yeeyyayayya I won" Pendidikan Islam is harder than Moral!!!! what gred purate proven Moral harder than Islam? yes, u r not maiking fcking sense. a document showing stats of Kelantan SPM 2012 Moral passing percentage higher than 2011, as for Islam - not showing, could be 100% in year 2012 , and 100% in year 2011, that's why not showing? possible, 100% passing wor... so easy Islam then also show stats higher for kelantan, comparing to National passing rate of Moral , Islam = None again!, so possible or unless u can show me , Islam is not so easy such that everyone passed 100%, national 100%, hence, no increase/decrease? lastly, if you think passing rate can show islam harder than moral, then you should do some research, the national statistic by subjects are still available. Moral passing rate is a bit lower than Islam, so ... Islam still harder la, ok lor... u win last note to add, as i said, no one ever failed Moral not that am aware of and it is not the passing we are ague, the discussion has always about straight As student who get a BOMB on the moral by having B4 C5 etc, so u r saying Moral is so easy but straight As students that can memorize all history, biology and actually not able to memorize nilai. and do u come across any case of Islam the only slipped subject problem for muslims student? and NOW regarding to this case, why only change moral format , and other subjects unaffected? as we all know format will change the way to answer the question and "skema" which is what SPM all about will be different but people like you likes to do ![]() so in conclusion, Yes, Islam more difficult than Moral like u said Plus you have no evidence that Moral actually caused anyone their straight As, and vice versa for Pendidikan Islam. I have evidence that Moral gp is better than PI. What you state are merely useless, brainless, thoughtless and emotion-based opinions which cannot surpass my rigid, fact-based points. Read again what you have written, you'll find that you look like a 10-year-old. It's making me think that you really are one. Now I'm gonna stop here once for all because so seem to be to thick to grasp the concept that I'm stating. The mere fact that shows Moral have better scores than PI, through evidence, have proven that I'm right for my stand that government does not dismiss non-bumis right to achieve success. Stop giving bullsh1t and show me prove b****. You wont see any replies from me on this topic again because I've been repeating the same shit over and over again. Its you fking fault that you dont understand what I am conveying. P.s: Just because you attached a pic of monkey(which totally represents yourself) doesn't mean that you're right. Sorry again and bye. Have a nice day. This post has been edited by VengenZ: Nov 20 2013, 10:53 PM |
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Nov 20 2013, 10:54 PM
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argue since afternoon, 2pm.
now 11pm This post has been edited by nicole_4ever: Nov 20 2013, 10:54 PM |
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Nov 20 2013, 10:55 PM
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You better Work B1tch,
You better Work B1tch, You better Work B1tch, |
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Nov 20 2013, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 20 2013, 10:43 PM) lol. at first simply google something showing kelantan statistic of SPM results 2012 , with no information on Pendidikan Islam passing rate or whatever You better Work B1tch,and say "yeeyyayayya I won" Pendidikan Islam is harder than Moral!!!! what gred purate proven Moral harder than Islam? yes, u r not maiking fcking sense. a document showing stats of Kelantan SPM 2012 Moral passing percentage higher than 2011, as for Islam - not showing, could be 100% in year 2012 , and 100% in year 2011, that's why not showing? possible, 100% passing wor... so easy Islam then also show stats higher for kelantan, comparing to National passing rate of Moral , Islam = None again!, so possible or unless u can show me , Islam is not so easy such that everyone passed 100%, national 100%, hence, no increase/decrease? lastly, if you think passing rate can show islam harder than moral, then you should do some research, the national statistic by subjects are still available. Moral passing rate is a bit lower than Islam, so ... Islam still harder la, ok lor... u win last note to add, as i said, no one ever failed Moral not that am aware of and it is not the passing we are ague, the discussion has always about straight As student who get a BOMB on the moral by having B4 C5 etc, so u r saying Moral is so easy but straight As students that can memorize all history, biology and actually not able to memorize nilai. and do u come across any case of Islam the only slipped subject problem for muslims student? and NOW regarding to this case, why only change moral format , and other subjects unaffected? as we all know format will change the way to answer the question and "skema" which is what SPM all about will be different but people like you likes to do ![]() so in conclusion, Yes, Islam more difficult than Moral like u said You better Work B1tch, You better Work B1tch, This post has been edited by insightone: Nov 20 2013, 10:56 PM |
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Nov 20 2013, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Nov 20 2013, 10:52 PM) No point talking to you dy, everyone else can see how retarded you are right now. Blablablabla I already stated that the figures only show for those subjects that have increment or have surpassed the national average gp. And gp includes A and non-As. the doc u postedPlus you have no evidence that Moral actually caused anyone their straight As, and vice versa for Pendidikan Islam. I have evidence that Moral gp is better than PI. What you state are merely useless, brainless, thoughtless and emotion-based opinions which cannot surpass my rigid, fact-based points. Read again what you have written, you'll find that you look like a 10-year-old. It's making me think that you really are one. Now I'm gonna stop here once for all because so seem to be to thick to grasp the concept that I'm stating. The mere fact that shows Moral have better scores than PI, through evidence, have proven that I'm right for my stand that government does not dismiss non-bumis right to achieve success. Stop giving bullsh1t and show me prove b****. You wont see any replies from me on this topic again because I've been repeating the same shit over and over again. Its you fking fault that you dont understand what I am conveying. P.s: Just because you attached a pic of monkey(which totally represents yourself) doesn't mean that you're right. Sorry again and bye. Have a nice day. lol, u stated the figure then tell me how is Kelantan stat on SPM result 2012 comparing to 2011, by subjects, and comparing to national , by subjects, on increment of % , no mentioned of Islam at all, have put you to WIN your argument of Moral easier than Islam why should i show u prove if stats by subjects are posted every year when results announce, because u start name calling? lol. yea u r the 3 monkeys combine in one |
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Nov 20 2013, 11:19 PM
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Nov 20 2013, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(TrollNoob @ Nov 20 2013, 09:57 PM) my time before, if u fail moral, u lowest in everything... Similar with my exp, a lot of my friends scored B for Pendidikan Islam and almost those who got B would rather keep it to themselves. Why? Because on the day of the paper, our Head Ustazah made a cynical reminder....that subject was a sure "A" paper wan... event the most stupid person in school also can score » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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Nov 21 2013, 01:17 AM
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QUOTE(Forgot Liao @ Nov 20 2013, 05:16 PM) You have to understand that there are A LOT OF non-Muslims in this country who are POOR, who do not have RICH PARENTS who can send them to STUDY IN UNIVERSITIES abroad. Mind stating a few examples?The only ones I know of are MARA and some Pertubuhan somthing.There are tons of scholarships out there for bumis and non bumis alike.I personally know quite a number of non bumis with scholarships in local and foreign unis aboard. Anyway try to get PTPTN loans for uni since PTPTN is waived for 1st class in uni That is why the non-Muslim students HAVE TO GET A in EVERYTHING just to HAVE A CHANCE (however slim that is) to get a scholarship. Someone in this thread was laughing at the non-Muslim here, saying that there are OTHER SCHOLARSHIPS ... but they do not know --- those OTHER SCHOLARSHIPS are FOR BUMI only[SIZE=7][SIZE=7][ If for nothing else, this thread has shown how MUCH the Malays do not know about the plight of the non-Malays in Malaysia. They see Malaysia according to WHAT THEY GET TO ENJOY, and they do not know HOW MANY HURDLES THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED to keep the non-Malays out of the loop. I agree Moral and much of Sej is time wasting though. This post has been edited by foxtrotalpha: Nov 21 2013, 01:20 AM |
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Nov 21 2013, 03:45 AM
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QUOTE(NXJ @ Nov 20 2013, 02:08 PM) This incident highlighted the main issue of Malaysia education you have to know how malaysian marks exam paper.Memorize format to pass exam only Change format = all die with 1 keyword = 1 point. without keyword, even the best answer got 0 point. if format change means all tembaking without knowing how they mark the paper. my year also sudden changed paper, i born in 1987, that year my school only 2 ppl A for Morale. If i am not wrong, from 72 values changed to 36 morale value, each values got sub values and bla bla bla. That means a lot of top student lost their chance to get JPA or other scholarship that require Straight As. Too bad my year no FB |
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Nov 21 2013, 04:11 AM
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QUOTE(joesheon @ Nov 20 2013, 06:16 PM) They should inform the students about the changes of format. Because Moral 's Format always changed without notice, happened to my year too (1987 born)Btw, I found it's easier than previous exam since the students don't have to merely rely on memorising anymore. and I found that it's amusing that this kind of thread can also derailed to vroom vroom thread Yeah it's all malays 'fault' because they did nothing right. I got few teacher friend, my GF also ex teacher, marking scheme is always no keyword = no point Example : keyword = amanah answer : Dia seorang yang JUJUR = 0 Dia ada amanah = 1 |
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Nov 21 2013, 04:31 AM
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Nov 20 2013, 03:43 PM) so, that's supposed to make it much more easier! it is not difficult to answer, logically you maybe right, but examiner can give you a point if NEW KEYWORD NOT FOUND.no need to quote exact words. construct a sentence with keywords difficult ah? My year 2 ppl got A for morals only, due to this also. |
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