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ultra_nyamuk
post Mar 5 2013, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(penmarker @ Mar 5 2013, 01:17 PM)
For a mere 5cm, I wouldn't waste money on expensive cables as the difference wouldn't be noticeable to my ears. But for longer cables, the characteristics of the sounds can be noticed.
How about we do a little meetup somewhere quiet? I can bring the cables with my headphones and a DAC/amp unit. But you have to bring a laptop because I run on desktop.
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Location in KL ?

QUOTE(blacklizard90 @ Mar 5 2013, 01:31 PM)
the extra 9 in 99.999 wont make any difference unless you have the 'golden ears' some claims to have, the cable will be fine if its comply cable manufacturing standard.

I suggest use canare cable, bang for the buck but don't buy from pcwork or jaben, they just selling it way too expensive.
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I see, im not diy'ing' just asking about relation between cables and sound quality. This is a diy thread..so i bet people here are pretty knowledgable about the cables they're diy'ing'. On another note, my headphone cable is really long. I was thinking of just simply cutting it shorter and reconnecting the plug. I x have soldering skills or such.. does it matter what solder material i use ? as long as i do a clean solder it should be ok ?
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post Mar 5 2013, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(ultra_nyamuk @ Mar 5 2013, 01:40 PM)
Location in KL ?
I see, im not diy'ing' just asking about relation between cables and sound quality. This is a diy thread..so i bet people here are pretty knowledgable about the cables they're diy'ing'. On another note, my headphone cable is really long. I was thinking of just simply cutting it shorter and reconnecting the plug. I x have soldering skills or such.. does it matter what solder material i use ? as long as i do a clean solder it should be ok ?
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Why not.. Just use the regular 60/40 solder, just make sure there is no cold join.. Flux is your friend smile.gif

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post Mar 5 2013, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(blacklizard90 @ Mar 5 2013, 01:43 PM)
Why not.. Just use the regular 60/40 solder, just make sure there is no cold join.. Flux is your friend smile.gif
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I shall try this one day..haha~
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post Mar 5 2013, 02:37 PM

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My location is Cyberjaya. I don't understand how cables alter the sound signature, probably have something to do with the material properties.
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post Mar 5 2013, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(penmarker @ Mar 5 2013, 02:37 PM)
My location is Cyberjaya. I don't understand how cables alter the sound signature, probably have something to do with the material properties.
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The impurities in the copper affect the flow of electron..
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post Mar 5 2013, 03:27 PM

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As a person who made a cable and tried it on my superlux 668b the signature definitely is different depending on cable. Canare gave my superlux more prominent female vocals which stood out more while stock cables made instruments stand out more.

When switching from cable to cable the sound change is instantly noticeable if you know the song well.
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post Mar 5 2013, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(penmarker @ Mar 5 2013, 02:37 PM)
My location is Cyberjaya. I don't understand how cables alter the sound signature, probably have something to do with the material properties.
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Hmm i guess so. Im in JB so.. sweat.gif haha! Lots of different types of materials and i think its just crazy how the prices can go up. Few hundered USD for an IC cable is too much.

QUOTE(blacklizard90 @ Mar 5 2013, 03:26 PM)
The impurities in the copper affect the flow of electron..
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I guess it makes sense. There has to be a limit on how much the electrons can transfer right? using pure copper is comparable to pure gold ? Maybe both will flow the same amount of electrons.

QUOTE(siles1991 @ Mar 5 2013, 03:27 PM)
As a person who made a cable and tried it on my superlux 668b the signature definitely is different depending on cable. Canare gave my superlux more prominent female vocals which stood out more while stock cables made instruments stand out more.

When switching from cable to cable the sound change is instantly noticeable if you know the song well.
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Maybe the stock cable is not as good. How about swtiching from a good custom cable to another good custom cable? Will there be differences.. ?
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QUOTE(ultra_nyamuk @ Mar 5 2013, 04:54 PM)
Lots of different types of materials and i think its just crazy how the prices can go up. Few hundered USD for an IC cable is too much.
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The thing is, all this "audiophile grade" cable and stuff seems to be a good way to make money, and audiophile willing to pay.

Back to topic, shall we tongue.gif
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post Mar 5 2013, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(ultra_nyamuk @ Mar 5 2013, 04:54 PM)
Hmm i guess so. Im in JB so.. sweat.gif haha! Lots of different types of materials and i think its just crazy how the prices can go up. Few hundered USD for an IC cable is too much.
I guess it makes sense. There has to be a limit on how much the electrons can transfer right? using pure copper is comparable to pure gold ? Maybe both will flow the same amount of electrons.
Maybe the stock cable is not as good. How about swtiching from a good custom cable to another good custom cable? Will there be differences.. ?
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of course custom cable im unsure of because I don't have other cables, but the stock cable itself is good. If I wanted to hear more instrumentals i would use stock and if I want to hear vocals i will use the canare cable. It's all about what kind of signature you want what you want to hear and how it corresponds to your taste.

Yes custom cables from other people are expensive because your paying for materials and workmanship despite what people say, if you can make it yourself than no one will stop you. Audiophile stuff is very subjective lets just say there's no RIGHT answer. If someone spends 100USD and likes the change in sound than let them be. Some people dont hear the difference fine just dont buy the 100USD cable and go make a RM20 one instead.

Some people do hear the differences between expensive and non expensive cables but who are we to judge them since they are the ones hearing it, not everyone has the same hearing capabilities, everybody is different.

Cable makers like pcwork do a lot of tinkering trying out different cable types with different plugs with different headphones. Braiding, designing all of that hard work is done by them, than people go in and say "aiyah these stuff i also can make why so expensive", but the fact is that your just copying what you see inside you didnt take the time to test all the different types of cables and plugs not thinking about the hard work and passion that was put inside those cables.

You can see all the people who adore(not worship) PCWork because of his handywork, they are of really good quality and also looks wise they look really great.

This post has been edited by siles1991: Mar 5 2013, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(ultra_nyamuk @ Mar 5 2013, 04:54 PM)
Hmm i guess so. Im in JB so.. sweat.gif haha! Lots of different types of materials and i think its just crazy how the prices can go up. Few hundered USD for an IC cable is too much.
I guess it makes sense. There has to be a limit on how much the electrons can transfer right? using pure copper is comparable to pure gold ? Maybe both will flow the same amount of electrons.
Maybe the stock cable is not as good. How about swtiching from a good custom cable to another good custom cable? Will there be differences.. ?
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prices of these cable can go very crazy can be due to the material cost as well, some cable makers tend to perform some treatment on their cable so that it could further improve the conductivity. Example: cryogenic treatment. So far all the cryo treated cables I tried seems to have rounder highs.

Different cable makers has their own way on making their cables, sound can be differ on how much solder amount you applied on each contact point and how many cable strand you used on each terminal, so I would say yeah, switching from one good custom cable to another might show differences, also, depends on your setup's sensitivity.
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QUOTE(siles1991 @ Mar 5 2013, 07:16 PM)
of course custom cable im unsure of because I don't have other cables, but the stock cable itself is good. If I wanted to hear more instrumentals i would use stock and if I want to hear vocals i will use the canare cable. It's all about what kind of signature you want what you want to hear and how it corresponds to your taste.

Yes custom cables from other people are expensive because your paying for materials and workmanship despite what people say, if you can make it yourself than no one will stop you. Audiophile stuff is very subjective lets just say there's no RIGHT answer. If someone spends 100USD and likes the change in sound than let them be. Some people dont hear the difference fine just dont buy the 100USD cable and go make a RM20 one instead.

Some people do hear the differences between expensive and non expensive cables but who are we to judge them since they are the ones hearing it, not everyone has the same hearing capabilities, everybody is different.

Cable makers like pcwork do a lot of tinkering trying out different cable types with different plugs with different headphones. Braiding, designing all of that hard work is done by them, than people go in and say "aiyah these stuff i also can make why so expensive", but the fact is that your just copying what you see inside you didnt take the time to test all the different types of cables and plugs not thinking about the hard work and passion that was put inside those cables.

You can see all the people who adore(not worship) PCWork because of his handywork, they are of really good quality and also looks wise they look really great.
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You are right...it is very subjective.. i guess there will never be a way to "measure" it.

QUOTE(more2teayap @ Mar 6 2013, 06:05 AM)
prices of these cable can go very crazy can be due to the material cost as well, some cable makers tend to perform some treatment on their cable so that it could further improve the conductivity. Example: cryogenic treatment. So far all the cryo treated cables I tried seems to have rounder highs.

Different cable makers has their own way on making their cables, sound can be differ on how much solder amount you applied on each contact point and how many cable strand you used on each terminal, so I would say yeah, switching from one good custom cable to another might show differences, also, depends on your setup's sensitivity.
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I see..so many things determine the sound. Well..good to know all these info smile.gif
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post Mar 10 2013, 12:59 AM

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i think i messed up my female jack now i decided to just recable my superlux but i fell into this problem...i dont know which wire is which xD

There is 1 red wire and 1 white wire and 1 solder point. i'm not sure which is which to solder too

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red and green circle both connected to left driver.

yellow circle had a wire soldered on to it

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post Mar 10 2013, 01:35 AM

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after much hardwork and tenacity this is my end product happy.gif very extremely happy with this because it's my first time recabling a headphone wheeee!!!

Ignore the horrible braiding at the end because it was blardy hard to solder while braided...and the heatshrink there is from when i was stripping the insulation and metal weave protecting the cables D: but all in all totally worth it

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interesting, will join DIY guru team soon.

your job is well done
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QUOTE(siles1991 @ Mar 10 2013, 01:35 AM)
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after much hardwork and tenacity this is my end product happy.gif very extremely happy with this because it's my first time recabling a headphone wheeee!!!

Ignore the horrible braiding at the end because  it was blardy hard to solder while braided...and the heatshrink there is from when i was stripping the insulation and metal weave protecting the cables D: but all in all totally worth it
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post Mar 11 2013, 08:48 AM

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I'm not sure whether this is the right thread to ask some question. It is about denon headphones.. I got myself a pair of denon AH-P372 which amazes me alot and worth more than the price it cost to buy it. Now when I search around the Internet, I do know some mods can be done, I done cotton and a little bit of Mark Mod, and now here comes a question. If I want to diy a 22~26 AWG pair of headphone cables for it, where can I find sleeves, jack and cable which consist of 4 wires? I searched around google and here for long time but yet can't find a specific place. Best place can be nearby Petaling Jaya, and the closing shop time ( cause I was Intern-ing). Thanks for answering my this question...
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post Mar 13 2013, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(babyskiraz @ Mar 11 2013, 08:48 AM)
I'm not sure whether this is the right thread to ask some question. It is about denon headphones.. I got myself a pair of denon AH-P372 which amazes me alot and worth more than the price it cost to buy it. Now when I search around the Internet, I do know some mods can be done, I done cotton and a little bit of Mark Mod, and now here comes a question. If I want to diy a 22~26 AWG pair of headphone cables for it, where can I find sleeves, jack and cable which consist of 4 wires? I searched around google and here for long time but yet can't find a specific place. Best place can be nearby Petaling Jaya, and the closing shop time ( cause I was Intern-ing). Thanks for answering my this question...
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can try walking around jalan pasar they might have sleeves, i think ace hardware also has sleeving
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post Mar 14 2013, 12:33 AM

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id recommend sommer sc2025 for cable + amphenol ks3pb for jack

http://www.sommercable.com/2__produkte/2__...__320_0101.html

1- twin construction for sc2025 (can split neatly) so you wont need sleeve/heatshrink
2- black cable + black jack = profesional look
3- can source locally @ jln pasar


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can u give the shop name at jalan pasar?

QUOTE(malutapimau @ Mar 14 2013, 12:33 AM)
@babyskiraz

id recommend sommer sc2025 for cable + amphenol ks3pb for jack

http://www.sommercable.com/2__produkte/2__...__320_0101.html

1- twin construction for sc2025 (can split neatly) so you wont need sleeve/heatshrink
2- black cable + black jack = profesional look
3- can source locally @ jln pasar
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post Mar 14 2013, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(malutapimau @ Mar 14 2013, 12:33 AM)
@babyskiraz

id recommend sommer sc2025 for cable + amphenol ks3pb for jack

http://www.sommercable.com/2__produkte/2__...__320_0101.html

1- twin construction for sc2025 (can split neatly) so you wont need sleeve/heatshrink
2- black cable + black jack = profesional look
3- can source locally @ jln pasar
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interested as well can use for RCA plugs and etc right? if it's 2 cables is there is no need to ground? Canare l4e6s is RM10/meter how much is this? sorry for noob questions xD still new

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