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TSpg84
post Nov 5 2013, 10:10 AM, updated 13y ago

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I know there are many review of suprima out there already but I can't help wanted to write one myself. I'm normalized to my p407 before the test so my judgement may biased towards comparing to p407


tested: suprima s at jb

test condition :
- long straight with 90deg corner n few traffic lights .
- uneven road with few potholes
- 3 occupant

interior
- rough plastic all over.
- uncomfortable sitting position , too high , hard leather seat , wife complain uncomfortable at back seat
- steering is heavy , ladies would complain , but comfortable , looks elegant n upmarket
- sitting inside feel the car is narrow - the feeling , dunno why

exterior
- looks good but prefer preve sedan look

the drive
- pickup good compared to preve from previous test drive
- superb handling , feel solid , suspension is good as the ride is supple over uneven road - first thing came to mind is ' this is better than my 407!'
- accelleration is very good !! I keep on testing the turbo whenever I see a straight road .
- engine is very noisy , not refined. should have put more noise insulation to make it a better car.

summary.
- not recommended for ladies for the heavy steering .
- feels cheap , cheap interior ,looks like QC does not include material quality in checklist .
- noisy engine = noisy cabin
- uncomfortable seat , seating position ,seating position too high, hard leather seat

+ handling
+ power n acceleration
+ looks good
+ sporty steering design.

just for sharing from a person who rarely speed above 110kmj and drives like an uncle.



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post Nov 5 2013, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(pg84 @ Nov 5 2013, 10:10 AM)
I know there are many review of suprima out there already but I can't help wanted to write one myself. I'm normalized to my p407 before the test so my judgement may biased towards comparing to p407
tested:  suprima s at jb

test condition :
- long straight with 90deg corner n few traffic lights .
- uneven road with few potholes
- 3 occupant

interior
- rough plastic all over.
- uncomfortable sitting position , too high , hard leather seat , wife complain uncomfortable at back seat
- steering is heavy  , ladies would complain  , but comfortable , looks elegant n upmarket
- sitting inside feel the car is narrow - the feeling , dunno why

exterior
- looks good but prefer preve sedan look

the drive
- pickup good compared to preve from previous test drive
- superb handling , feel solid , suspension is good as the ride is supple over uneven road - first thing came to mind is ' this is better than my 407!'
- accelleration is very good !! I keep on testing the turbo whenever I see a straight road .
- engine is very noisy , not refined. should have put more noise insulation to make it a better car.

summary.
- not recommended for ladies for the heavy steering .
- feels cheap , cheap interior ,looks like  QC does not include material quality in checklist .
- noisy engine = noisy cabin
- uncomfortable seat , seating position ,seating position too high, hard leather seat

+ handling
+ power n acceleration
+ looks good
+ sporty steering design.

just for sharing from a person who rarely speed above 110kmj and drives like an uncle.
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I don't know about the Suprima S but I own the Preve Turbo so most of the characteristics in handling, steering feel and suspension may be similar. I seem to share most of the observations you have made above. Particularly the comment on the suspension marked in red.

The suspension of the Suprima S/Preve Turbo is certainly commendable. In your remark about the suspension of the Suprima S being better than the Peugeot 407, let me expand a bit. "Better" is a wide term and is subjective. It can be better in some areas but worse in other areas. THough I can relate to your experience, but in my case the Preve Turbo to the Ford Focus Titanium. I find the suspension of the Preve Turbo to be more comfort-tuned than the Focus. When going over imperfections or unnevenness of the roads, the suspension soaks up these irregularities on the roads. The vehicle will be more floaty and bounce more as they soak up the irregularities on the roads, producing a more comfortable ride. With the Focus, all the imperfections, undulations, unevenness of the roads, the suspension of the Focus will transmit all these more effectively into the cabin. The Focus is rock steady and won't bounce up and down like a spring when going over bad or imperfect roads in comparison to vehicles with more "springy" suspension. Good for handling but not so comfortable.

I presume the same when you compared the Suprima S to the Peugeot 407. When you mentioned the suspension of the Suprima S being superior than the Peugeot 407, I wager it's the more solid feel of the suspension that soaks up the unnevenness or imperfections of the roads, potholes etc.

If the steering of the Suprima S is similar to that of the Preve Turbo, I am in agreement that the steering weight of it is heavy. As a matter of fact the steering of the Protons is the significantly heavier than most of the vehicles that I have owned or driven. Not very ideal when driving a lot in town as more effort is needed to turn the steering wheel in comparison to a lighter steering.

Looks is subjective though the sedan looks much better to the Suprima to me.
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post Nov 5 2013, 11:37 AM

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why does ppl complain heavy steering?
its not a freakin EPS
heavy steering is a GOOD thing

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Nov 5 2013, 11:37 AM
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post Nov 5 2013, 12:19 PM

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i agreed for heavy steering... but in facts it good for high speed cruising but not for city driving...
the reasons for heavy steering are safety reasons while speeding...

otherwise i think Kia Cerato should be the best option as the steering respond can be light, normal and heavy depend on our preferences...
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post Nov 5 2013, 12:42 PM

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Hmm....I never quite understood the heavy steering complaint on the Preve/Suprima, it is no heavier than the 1st gen Vios at home and that Vios is driven by my sister hmm.gif

Certainly during test drives the steering weight did not stood out to me as being extraordinarily heavy, and I am used to the Fiesta steering which is one of the lightest steering I have driven (when low speed, it is even lighter than Vios/Myvi). Unless you are expecting something like the latest Accord, which you can spin with 1 finger even when highway cruising..... sweat.gif
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post Nov 5 2013, 01:19 PM

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how about the audio / gps system? is it good?
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post Nov 5 2013, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(pai3355 @ Nov 5 2013, 01:19 PM)
how about the audio / gps system? is it good?
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never get to try cos wanted to hear how quiet is the cabin with engine noise .
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post Nov 5 2013, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 5 2013, 12:42 PM)
Hmm....I never quite understood the heavy steering complaint on the Preve/Suprima, it is no heavier than the 1st gen Vios at home and that Vios is driven by my sister  hmm.gif

Certainly during test drives the steering weight did not stood out to me as being extraordinarily heavy, and I am used to the Fiesta steering which is one of the lightest steering I have driven (when low speed, it is even lighter than Vios/Myvi). Unless you are expecting something like the latest Accord, which you can spin with 1 finger even when highway cruising..... sweat.gif
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light steering jusy tiring when driving on highway

nowadays people just got pampered with Power steering, when comes to car that dont have it. then they unable to drive already doh.gif
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post Nov 5 2013, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Nov 5 2013, 02:10 PM)
nowadays people just got pampered with Electric Power steering, when comes to car that have Hydraulic Power steering, then they unable to drive already doh.gif
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fixed tongue.gif

It is worse than you thought whistling.gif
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post Nov 5 2013, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 5 2013, 11:37 AM)
why does ppl complain heavy steering?
its not a freakin EPS
heavy steering is a GOOD thing
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post Nov 5 2013, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 5 2013, 02:22 PM)
fixed  tongue.gif

It is worse than you thought  whistling.gif
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sooner we going to have voice command for steering already so that its light or maybe mind control laugh.gif
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post Nov 5 2013, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 5 2013, 02:22 PM)
fixed  tongue.gif

It is worse than you thought  whistling.gif
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i still prefer hydraulic steering over EPS whenever i drive back my BLM
just be honest, proton is the only smart one by not switching to EPS like other company
it ruins the feeling and handling
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post Nov 5 2013, 04:08 PM

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TS feels that the suprima steering is heavy, its totally fine.
why wanna mocked him as his just being honest about his experience & feeling, dont forget this is his personal review.

i dont see owner of car with no power steering laughing at those with hydraulic power steering, saying they got pampered and nags when given a car without a power steering.
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post Nov 5 2013, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(yamato @ Nov 5 2013, 04:08 PM)
TS feels that the suprima steering is heavy, its totally fine.
why wanna mocked him as his just being honest about his experience & feeling, dont forget this is his personal review.

i dont see owner of car with no power steering laughing at those with hydraulic power steering, saying they got pampered and nags when given a car without a power steering.
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It is not mockery (well at least I wasn't mocking the TS), just a very general observation + my personal opinion about Proton's steering setup.

Hope this clears up any misunderstanding.
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post Nov 5 2013, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 5 2013, 03:00 PM)
+99999
i still prefer hydraulic steering over EPS whenever i drive back my BLM
just be honest, proton is the only smart one by not switching to EPS like other company
it ruins the feeling and handling
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next year potong switching to EPS, beginning with the GSC (Global small car)

so proton is becoming stupid next year? rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 5 2013, 05:17 PM)
next year potong switching to EPS, beginning with the GSC (Global small car)

so proton is becoming stupid next year? rclxms.gif
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proton didn't switch to EPS because of lotus handling
EPS and lotus handling = 0
with = without
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post Nov 5 2013, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 5 2013, 05:17 PM)
next year potong switching to EPS, beginning with the GSC (Global small car)

so proton is becoming stupid next year? rclxms.gif
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pelanciao proton bikin also bolo 1

like SS and Preve been implemented with ESP but sure got people going to say "got use meh"? doh.gif
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Nov 5 2013, 05:51 PM)
pelanciao proton bikin also bolo 1

like SS and Preve been implemented with ESP but sure got people going to say "got use meh"? doh.gif
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ESC memang bo use mah. That is why Toyota dint put in their Camry, Previa and the almighty OMFG Vios... notworthy.gif

put edi waste resources only.
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post Nov 5 2013, 06:20 PM

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the heavy steering is not really a big issue la , last time my waja also heavy , p407 is also heavy , not a deal breaker anyway .Other parts like engine noise is . ...cos too loud leh.....press minyak , powerful n laju but jet engine sound also .....I was hoping it to be more refined....
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You pussies complaining about the power steering might as well get a driver to drive for you. laugh.gif

Pg84, no offense but I could buy a Preve/Suprima, modify it till it's 99% as insulated and comfortable as the p407 (or maybe even more), and yet still have enough money to buy another cheap car. Or well, still have many thousands still in my pocket. tongue.gif

Only difference is, your logo is Peugeot. Mine is Proton. Malaysian Kiasu-ism aside, the logo is least of my concern wink.gif

QUOTE(pg84 @ Nov 5 2013, 10:10 AM)
I know there are many review of suprima out there already but I can't help wanted to write one myself. I'm normalized to my p407 before the test so my judgement may biased towards comparing to p407
tested:  suprima s at jb

test condition :
- long straight with 90deg corner n few traffic lights .
- uneven road with few potholes
- 3 occupant

interior
- rough plastic all over.
- uncomfortable sitting position , too high , hard leather seat , wife complain uncomfortable at back seat
- steering is heavy  , ladies would complain  , but comfortable , looks elegant n upmarket
- sitting inside feel the car is narrow - the feeling , dunno why

exterior
- looks good but prefer preve sedan look

the drive
- pickup good compared to preve from previous test drive
- superb handling , feel solid , suspension is good as the ride is supple over uneven road - first thing came to mind is ' this is better than my 407!'
- accelleration is very good !! I keep on testing the turbo whenever I see a straight road .
- engine is very noisy , not refined. should have put more noise insulation to make it a better car.

summary.
- not recommended for ladies for the heavy steering .
- feels cheap , cheap interior ,looks like  QC does not include material quality in checklist .
- noisy engine = noisy cabin
- uncomfortable seat , seating position ,seating position too high, hard leather seat

+ handling
+ power n acceleration
+ looks good
+ sporty steering design.

just for sharing from a person who rarely speed above 110kmj and drives like an uncle.
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