Hmm....I never quite understood the heavy steering complaint on the Preve/Suprima, it is no heavier than the 1st gen Vios at home and that Vios is driven by my sister

Certainly during test drives the steering weight did not stood out to me as being extraordinarily heavy, and I am used to the Fiesta steering which is one of the lightest steering I have driven (when low speed, it is even lighter than Vios/Myvi). Unless you are expecting something like the latest Accord, which you can spin with 1 finger even when highway cruising.....

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It is worse than you thought

It is not mockery (well at least I wasn't mocking the TS), just a very general observation + my personal opinion about Proton's steering setup.

Hope this clears up any misunderstanding.

Focus ST, Golf Mk7 GTI, Fiesta ST, Megane RS, GT86 etc. etc. all uses EPS and every one of them is in a different league when it comes to handling, compared to Suprima / Preve.

You don't need HPS to make a car handle well. You just need to know how to tune an EPS system to work with a properly set up chassis and suspension.

This post has been edited by dares: Nov 5 2013, 10:13 PM

EPS la, not ESP

No wonder RM15k more expensib than Fortetek

Proton lost their market share due to cronyism and complacency, and the resulting poor quality cars. It has nothing to do with their focus on handling or whatnot.


You think Proton still send their cars to Lotus to do chassis and suspension tuning meh?

They learned from Lotus and do their own tuning and design now, the "Lotus R&H" is just a brand name and gimmick to associate themselves with a sports car brand. When Preve was launched, they reverted to the "Proton R&H" label. Then Suprima came along and they used back the Lotus brand name....tader confidence kot

Even if tomorrow DRB sells Lotus away, new Proton models won't suddenly handle like a boat.

This post has been edited by dares: Nov 7 2013, 05:29 PM

Nowadays I won't say Proton is not moving forward, good example is they took the trouble to improve the CVT gearbox from the Preve to the Suprima, and it's not just a software update....the internals and mounting are different and improved upon. Yea the Campro is due for a replacement, and there have been strong signs that a new engine is forthcoming.

Proton handles like a sports car meh Anyway, I can't say I complain about the comfort in the Preve and Suprima. They could do a lot worse, but then they could do a lot better as well.

Most EPS numbs feedback from the wheels to the steering wheel.

Some EPS are so light even at high speed they are tiresome if not dangerous to drive.

If not implemented correctly, there may be noticable delay to steering weight change according to speed, ie: when decelerating from high speed, the steering weight does not lighten up accordingly, or conversely if you suddenly accelerate to high speed, the steering does not become heavier until a few seconds later. If you like to brake hard and accelerate hard, the steering weight becomes unpredictable.

However, most of the downsides may only matter if you always FnF. Like it or not EPS will replace all hydraulic power steering soon (word is the new Proton B-hatch aka GSC will be the first Proton car to use EPS), except for those hardcore sport cars, for example the Alfa Romeo 4C that doesn't even have power steering.

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 4 2014, 04:10 AM