QUOTE(TakoC @ Nov 23 2013, 05:48 PM)
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Nov 23 2013, 05:49 PM
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Nov 24 2013, 01:32 AM
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Nov 24 2013, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 19 2013, 10:50 PM) AmDynamic Bond is getting more and more... really bad timing i went in trying to benefit from my 30days 1% special fee.......As at today my portfolio showed a total loss of RM1115!! so damn fast dropping like that..........Don't be disappointed if the funds disappoint u. U should not buy UTs with a mind to profit in a few months' time. Think years, not months. |
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Nov 25 2013, 07:55 AM
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Nov 25 2013, 09:20 AM
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Nov 25 2013, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Nov 24 2013, 11:47 PM) really bad timing i went in trying to benefit from my 30days 1% special fee.......As at today my portfolio showed a total loss of RM1115!! so damn fast dropping like that.......... If rm1115 = 5% lost, i assume you invested rm20,000? seems like you didnt diversify your funds? see long term ma.. if you still got funds then put in smmore, lower down the average cost |
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Nov 25 2013, 10:34 AM
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Nov 25 2013, 11:09 AM
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Nov 25 2013, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Nov 24 2013, 11:47 PM) really bad timing i went in trying to benefit from my 30days 1% special fee.......As at today my portfolio showed a total loss of RM1115!! so damn fast dropping like that.......... Try seeing this loss as an opportunity. Optimism goes a long way, friend. If you see this as a long term investment, you should listen to pisces88's advise too by reinvesting in this funds. This post has been edited by Kinggnik87: Nov 25 2013, 12:28 PM |
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Nov 25 2013, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(Kinggnik87 @ Nov 25 2013, 12:25 PM) Try seeing this loss as an opportunity. Well, true. But scare some people might misinterpret what you said and just keep topping up when performance down, down, and continue down. One must still evaluate the condition and top up accordingly. Just a small lump, don't need to top up lar Optimism goes a long way, friend. If you see this as a long term investment, you should listen to pisces88's advise too by reinvesting in this funds. |
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Nov 25 2013, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Nov 22 2013, 04:41 PM) Guys...how many equity funds do you have at any one time? I suppose 4-5 is the max? You're talking about equity only right. I have 8 in Public Mutual, 7 in my FSM account and 6 in my wife FSM account. In progress to consolidate down to 5 each for FSM accounts.And are you driven by emotions/logic when you feel it's time to sell. For eg., it depends on the duration that you have been keeping the fund, the performance of it the past few months, or simply cuz you know that it's gonna tank soon. Some people will hold till yearssss, and some many few months then cabut regardless of situation. What say you? |
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Nov 25 2013, 01:57 PM
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I correct my sentence, If you believe your investment is full of long term potential, then it's wise to stick with it and reinvesting it.
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Nov 25 2013, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 22 2013, 06:48 PM) Excluding PRS. I have 8 funds on-hand. Excluding sentimental PM funds, I have 6. Hehe, sentimental funds meaning hard to sell eventhough performing bad or good When fund is not performed as per your expectation, emotion drive will sure happen unless you want to let it auto-pilot. QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 22 2013, 09:35 PM) I learnt this lesson and went thru this with Pacific Global Stars, happy that I persevered and kept faith I think my threshold for funds would be to keep them for 6months to a year, depending...hard to say since it's performance-driven. When it goes up, you still wanna keep hoping it will keep rising. But if it goes down, you keep hoping it will rise again. Have to beat this mentality if wanna invest wisely, yes?Funds that I gave up after prolonged underperformance: Eastspring Investments Asia Pacific Shariah AmAsia Pacific REITs I'm not the sort that's into invest for a long period. I hope I can persevere with those I have in hand. Pink Spider, you mentioned before about DCA. So it's just like topping up when prices seem low enough (and looking good to rise again) so that the price will be favourable over a period of time, is this correct? |
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Nov 25 2013, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Nov 25 2013, 02:25 PM) I think my threshold for funds would be to keep them for 6months to a year, depending...hard to say since it's performance-driven. When it goes up, you still wanna keep hoping it will keep rising. But if it goes down, you keep hoping it will rise again. Have to beat this mentality if wanna invest wisely, yes? IMHO 6 months is too short.I'm not the sort that's into invest for a long period. I hope I can persevere with those I have in hand. Pink Spider, you mentioned before about DCA. So it's just like topping up when prices seem low enough (and looking good to rise again) so that the price will be favourable over a period of time, is this correct? Imagine u bought a fund during the slump of 2008-2009, and u dumped after a few months. Fastforward to 2013...you'd be cursing yourself. Investing is for long-term, think at least 3 years and above. DCA is about topping up FIXED AMOUNT on a regular interval regardless of what's happening. I do VCA + monitor market, i.e. if market goes up strongly, I'd do nothong. If market crashes, I'd top up enough to keep my %s intact e.g. fund A from 20% of my portfolio dropped to 18%, I top up to make it become 20% again. |
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Nov 25 2013, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 25 2013, 02:29 PM) IMHO 6 months is too short. 3 years...I guess if the returns are a lot better than FD, then it would be encouraging to keep them longer, hehe Imagine u bought a fund during the slump of 2008-2009, and u dumped after a few months. Fastforward to 2013...you'd be cursing yourself. Investing is for long-term, think at least 3 years and above. DCA is about topping up FIXED AMOUNT on a regular interval regardless of what's happening. I do VCA + monitor market, i.e. if market goes up strongly, I'd do nothong. If market crashes, I'd top up enough to keep my %s intact e.g. fund A from 20% of my portfolio dropped to 18%, I top up to make it become 20% again. Thanks for the clarification on the DCA and VCA...yes, you're right, one is fixed amount and another is not. How confident are you when you do the top up when market's down...like, you must really know what you're doing if you choose to keep buying eventhough it's down...yes? |
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Nov 25 2013, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Nov 25 2013, 02:35 PM) 3 years...I guess if the returns are a lot better than FD, then it would be encouraging to keep them longer, hehe U cannot compare strictly to FD...FD is fixed...straight line...Thanks for the clarification on the DCA and VCA...yes, you're right, one is fixed amount and another is not. How confident are you when you do the top up when market's down...like, you must really know what you're doing if you choose to keep buying eventhough it's down...yes? But UT can be like...u loss money for 1 year...then nothing for 2nd year...then 3rd year fly up recouped all yr losses plus made profit |
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Nov 25 2013, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 25 2013, 02:38 PM) U cannot compare strictly to FD...FD is fixed...straight line... I understand...a bit jittery cuz this is my first venture into UT.But UT can be like...u loss money for 1 year...then nothing for 2nd year...then 3rd year fly up recouped all yr losses plus made profit Wanted to try with that HSAO that you guys mentioned before, but lately I see that everyone's going away from it |
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Nov 25 2013, 03:15 PM
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Nov 25 2013, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Nov 25 2013, 03:13 PM) I understand...a bit jittery cuz this is my first venture into UT. Build a portfolio, don't pick 1-2 funds and hope that it/they will make u a fortuneWanted to try with that HSAO that you guys mentioned before, but lately I see that everyone's going away from it Pick a Asia ex-Japan fund, a (or maybe 2?) global fund, a Asia ex-Japan small-mid cap fund, and possibly an Emerging Markets fund. |
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Nov 25 2013, 03:19 PM
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