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 Personal Financial Management V3, It's all about managing your $$$

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post Oct 16 2016, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(Dividend Magic @ Oct 16 2016, 01:30 PM)
Hey maybe I can help shed some light on financial planners since I'm one. Basically most FPs in Malaysia are trying to sell u insurance and mutual funds, they earn commissions based on the products you buy.

Some (like me) are fee only FPs to avoid conflicts of interests.
You can message me any time to talk about your financial issues, I do basic financial planning for free because I enjoy it. =D
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Thanks Dividend Magic, let me do more reading and research first. smile.gif
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post Oct 16 2016, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(silverwave @ Oct 16 2016, 01:44 PM)
The property is still under loan at the moment. On the bolded item, rental is still taxable right even if it's still under loan right? I will need to minus off some expenses and the balance is taxable, correct?
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Ya, still taxable no matter what but with maximum loan, chances are after deducting loan interest , you won't have much taxable rental income, if at all. That's why buying prop using cash is a pretty bad idea. So is paying off loans associated with a property .
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QUOTE(silverwave @ Oct 16 2016, 01:46 PM)
Thanks Dividend Magic, let me do more reading and research first.  smile.gif
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No sweat bro.

In a nutshell, its a good idea to increase your loan repayment now because loan interest is higher compared to FD's.
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post Nov 28 2016, 11:27 AM

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guys, is there latest version?
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post Nov 28 2016, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(nescafe86 @ Nov 28 2016, 11:27 AM)
guys, is there latest version?
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i think this is the main thread,
u can ask ur question here. thumbsup.gif
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post Nov 29 2016, 01:01 PM

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Nice. I also still learning new tricks on managing personal finance. I already cut down quite a lot of entertainment but still. laugh.gif doh.gif
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post Nov 29 2016, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Nov 29 2016, 01:01 PM)
Nice. I also still learning new tricks on managing personal finance. I already cut down quite a lot of entertainment but still. laugh.gif doh.gif
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put a portion (10% or more if u can) of ur salary into saving first once u get ur salary.

start tracking ur expenses,
make budget for each category of expenses eg. food-rm1000, entertanment -rm200, etc
spend within the budget.


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QUOTE(deadravel @ Nov 29 2016, 01:40 PM)
put a portion (10% or more if u can) of ur salary into saving first once u get ur salary.

start tracking ur expenses,
make budget for each category of expenses eg. food-rm1000, entertanment -rm200, etc
spend within the budget.
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Haha sure sure
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post Nov 29 2016, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(deadravel @ Nov 29 2016, 01:40 PM)
put a portion (10% or more if u can) of ur salary into saving first once u get ur salary.
Saving is good but will never be enough. Saving alone will still result in significant 'losses' in the long run because in the current economic climate especially here in Malaysia where our money is being 'eaten' by high inflation and rising cost of living.

So even though we may be saving but our purchasing power is drastically reducing daily. The only way to offset this is by growing your savings by prudent investments which give you a min return of 10% per annum.
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post Nov 29 2016, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 29 2016, 06:43 PM)
Saving is good but will never be enough. Saving alone will still result in significant 'losses' in the long run because in the current economic climate especially here in Malaysia where our money is being 'eaten' by high inflation and rising cost of living.

So even though we may be saving but our purchasing power is drastically reducing daily. The only way to offset this is by growing your savings by prudent investments which give you a min return of 10% per annum.
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Bro,
Wat is the reasonable inflation numbers to use when prepare personal budget?
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post Nov 29 2016, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(deadravel @ Nov 29 2016, 01:40 PM)
put a portion (10% or more if u can) of ur salary into saving first once u get ur salary.

start tracking ur expenses,
make budget for each category of expenses eg. food-rm1000, entertanment -rm200, etc
spend within the budget.
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Well just 10% of salary is not enough..
U need to make sure the 10% can give good return..
If not, our inflation & cost of living will kill it..
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 29 2016, 09:23 PM)
Bro,
Wat is the reasonable inflation numbers to use when prepare personal budget?
10%
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post Nov 30 2016, 12:08 AM

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guard figure for disposal (unplanned) budget is at least 6 months of current salary.
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post Nov 30 2016, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 29 2016, 10:13 PM)
10%
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10% is extremely High
It's impossible to grow our asset class by tat numbers annually
In addition, the present economic conditions is very challenging for fund managers n ordinary Ppl like us to achieve tat %
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post Nov 30 2016, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 29 2016, 06:43 PM)
Saving is good but will never be enough. Saving alone will still result in significant 'losses' in the long run because in the current economic climate especially here in Malaysia where our money is being 'eaten' by high inflation and rising cost of living.

So even though we may be saving but our purchasing power is drastically reducing daily. The only way to offset this is by growing your savings by prudent investments which give you a min return of 10% per annum.
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true, just giving example how to get started in personal financing,
u wont be asking him to invest straight up if he dont have any saving/emergency fund eh

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 29 2016, 09:26 PM)
Well just 10% of salary is not enough..
U need to make sure the 10% can give good return..
If not, our inflation & cost of living will kill it..
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yes, of course 10% is small, but its a good start

QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 29 2016, 09:23 PM)
Bro,
Wat is the reasonable inflation numbers to use when prepare personal budget?
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malaysia inflation rate is less than 4% in 2016

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/malaysia/inflation-cpi

but of course the data is there, but how we actually feel about the inflation rate higher

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post Nov 30 2016, 09:18 AM

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4% inflation rate is such BS..
It's way higher than that..
I feels like its 10% above..
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QUOTE(deadravel @ Nov 30 2016, 08:54 AM)
malaysia inflation rate is less than 4% in 2016
U need to know that in Malaysia (unlike many developed countries), the inflation rate provided is given as an average for the whole country. That means in lay man's terms, comparing prices of essential goods in the most expensive place in Malaysia vs the most ulu place in East Malaysia. Of course the final figure is going to be crap.

In many developed countries in Europe for example, u can get the country wide inflation rate and also inflation in many key cities. Plus, in Europe, price control is enforced very strictly. Even for market determined prices, there are numerous watch dogs to keep a close eye in ensuring retailers and traders don't purposely hike up prices. In Malaysia such enforcement is lax.


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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 30 2016, 08:28 AM)
10% is extremely High
It's impossible to grow our asset class by tat numbers annually
In addition, the present economic conditions is very challenging for fund managers n ordinary Ppl like us to achieve tat %
It is NOT extremely high and surely NOT impossible. It only becomes impossible when ure only thinking of investing in mutual funds. There are many investments out there which provide potentially higher returns albeit with higher risks. If one can manage & spread their risk efficiently, its not impossible to achieve ROI of >10% per annum.

In challenging economic times, good investors think out of the box. Following the conventional doesn't work in these times.
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 29 2016, 09:23 PM)
Bro,
Wat is the reasonable inflation numbers to use when prepare personal budget?
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Honestly speaking, for a long term annual inflation rate, 3.3% to 3.5% is a reasonable figure. We as financial planners do not use even 4% because imagine if we were do calculation for retirement for our clients for a period of 15 to 20 years, the result will be there no matter what the client do, there will never be enough for retirement, ever.

We are talking about long term inflation rate on the main/common basket of food, not just specifically on teh tarik or GST or specific item. Hope this clarifies and helps.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 30 2016, 09:44 AM)
It is NOT extremely high and surely NOT impossible. It only becomes impossible when ure only thinking of investing in mutual funds. There are many investments out there which provide potentially higher returns albeit with higher risks. If one can manage & spread their risk efficiently, its not impossible to achieve ROI of >10% per annum.

In challenging economic times, good investors think out of the box. Following the conventional doesn't work in these times.
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Bro,
Mind to share some investmnets tat delivers > 10% ROI here or via pm


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