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ytan053
post Nov 30 2016, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 29 2016, 09:23 PM)
Bro,
Wat is the reasonable inflation numbers to use when prepare personal budget?
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Honestly speaking, for a long term annual inflation rate, 3.3% to 3.5% is a reasonable figure. We as financial planners do not use even 4% because imagine if we were do calculation for retirement for our clients for a period of 15 to 20 years, the result will be there no matter what the client do, there will never be enough for retirement, ever.

We are talking about long term inflation rate on the main/common basket of food, not just specifically on teh tarik or GST or specific item. Hope this clarifies and helps.
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post Nov 30 2016, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 30 2016, 11:43 AM)
And that's why many Malaysians do not take savings & retirement planning seriously. That's also the reason why, most Malaysians do not have sufficient savings in their old age.

You do not use higher inflation figures only because it will show that none of your products will be able to overcome this inflation thus nobody will invest in them. So u downplay the actual inflation figures and use low figures. You are merely misleading your clients and that's the reason why I always tell people never trust financial planners. They will always downplay the real market conditions and try and sell you a product of their bank / financial institution in the end.
You cannot use long term inflation rates when the current inflation rate is much higher than that. And u are also wrong in saying that by assuming higher inflation figures, there will never be enough for retirement. That is again misleading. You can achieve a 10% ROI growth per annum with prudent investments. I am living proof of that and if I can achieve it so can anybody else.

In March 2007, my NAV was only RM196,000. My current NAV is approx. RM2.3mil. And im not someone who earns a super high salary. I just manage my risks, diversify investments and continuously review my investment portfolio every 3 months to ensure im getting maximum returns for every cent.
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Many Malaysians are not aware of their position and hence didnt plan their future.

When come to retirement planning, you need to use a long term inflation rate because retirement planning is not for 1 to 2 years but for a term of 10 or probably 40 years! There must be a basis for 10% inflation and not just based on gut feel or based on certain product. Who can tell what is the nation wide inflation rate for the past 10 years? There must be solid data and sources to based on.

And to clarify, independent financial planner who do holistic financial planning DO NOT work for a bank, insurance or financial institution. Many people think that financial planner are those with financial institution selling insurance and bank products, that is what the bank portrays their "wealth planner" and insurance companies portray their "insurance agent" as, which is totally misleading. This is also one of the Malaysian problem where they do not understand what does an independent financial planner do and mix them up with those who works with the financial institution.

It is also not easy to achieve consistently 10% ROI p.a. long term, say, continuously for 10 years. U may get 10% consistently for 3 to 5 years, how about for the next 10 to 20 years? We are talking about annualized long term ROI.

It is excellent for you to be able to plan your financial meticulously and grow your NAV at your own. You definitely have certain level of financial knowledge to manage your investment consistently via reivew and maximising your return, especially the part that you are managing your risk very well.
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post Nov 30 2016, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(deadravel @ Nov 30 2016, 12:52 PM)
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u have any suggestion on how to get started in managing personal finance?
for newbie like me, with very less experience in investment stuff.
currently im looking into investment in ETF (long term), and also invest into high dividend stock, any suggestion?
property investment maybe will come later

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Personal financial is not only about investment. It is also about managing your debt, your retirement planning, investment planning, risk management (like insurance), tax planning, estate planning, children education (if any). Because there is no point you investing in somewhere which the return is lower that the interest rate you are paying for your credit card debts and housing loan.

Cybermaster not only manages investment but risk as well. This is very important because the fact that investing in high risk products can mean risking your money that you might not get back your capital at all. So there is thorough study and research to be done before selecting the proper investment
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post Apr 9 2019, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(lifenoregret @ Apr 4 2019, 05:58 PM)
Hey guys, I am married and here are my personal finance status

Gross salary rm8200
Net salary rm6600
Monthly expenses (Food, groceries, work related etc) rm2400
Parent rm300
Rental rm900
Car loan (Until Dec 2020) rm570
Insurance (Includ wife) rm450
Phone (Includ wife with phone package) rm350
Internet rm190
Electric rm100 - 130
Water rm20
IPTV, cloud storage etc - rm150

After deducted the expenses left the balance at approx rm1400

Still have debt which I am aiming to clear within few months time, so I will not include it here unless unforeseen circumstances come up and unable to clear the debt, additional rm230 will be included to the top
I am seeing nowadays near completion or completed condo are selling at least 400k - 500k

So with these figures provided, it's advisable for me to get the mortgage loan let's say at 400k - 500k?
Or it's best for me to lay down and come up with higher deposit and scale down the mortgage loan to 350k - 380k?
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This picture is without wife's income and expenses, hence may not be comprehensive.

With leftover of RM1k+, you might not be able to pay the loan if the loan came out to more than RM1.4k a month.

The advise is very general because you didnt provide your current assets and liabilities to assess the situation. Even though property maybe a good time to buy now, but your cash flow does nt seems to allow you to buy a house because you dont have enough cash flow to pay the instalment, unless ur loan instalment is less than RM1k a month and you have cleared the debt (unknown amount).
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post Apr 9 2019, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(af_1993 @ Mar 1 2019, 01:52 PM)
Hi guys would love to get your advice on my personal finance.

Age 26
Gross salary RM3380

Investments
Asb loan - RM150k (monthly RM813) - now dividend more than RM10k
Tabung haji - RM100 monthly (less RM2k)
Unit trust - RM500 (just started - will practise DCA)
Stashaway - RM100 (initial deposit)

Expenses roughly
Housing loan - RM1320 - house still under  construction, another 4 years to complete -- so i havent paid full installment yet
Food RM500
Transport RM200
Rental RM500
Misc RM200-300
Parent RM100

So now i was thinking of purchasing reit stocks which i want o allocate RM2k (taken from bonus) for that as a start. I feel like im rushing with my investment

What do you guys think?
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Before you talk about investment, do you have any emergency cash funding in hand for at least around 6 months (which will be at least RM17,520) because there are expenses that you are not aware and didnt disclose which you dont spend every month but occasssionally / once a year - car maintenance, road tax insurance, any gift/donation, membership fee, insurance, entertainment, shopping, grocery, pharmacy etc. Without the checklist, you may miss out a lot of expenses. This is just the beginning. In personal finance, there are many other steps to take care of in the later part.

*It is very good that you have the asb loan, it is already a very good investment. This also shows that you dont mind to go for non-syariah compliant investment.

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post Apr 10 2019, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(drumstix @ Apr 10 2019, 03:04 PM)
28 year old

Take home pay: 5500
Side income: 1500 (stable income, sometimes up to 2000)
TOTAL net income: 7000

Car 850
Rent 350
Credit card 300
Insurance 200
Fuel 200
Toll 120
Food 600
Leisure 800
Gym 70
Phone 80
Misc 200
TOTAL expenditure 3700

The rest goes to savings, about 3k+ monthly

Hello, this is my ins and out every month. Starting May 2019, I'll need to help out my dad to pay for the house. Monthly installment would be RM3000, shared among me and my other 2 siblings, so RM1000 each. Also, I'm planning to buy a continental ride at the end of the year. Monthly installment would be about 1500 every month. However, the total expenditure would sum up to 6200. Certainly doesn't seem like I will be getting my new ride this year sad.gif

On a side note, say I have 100k in cash, is placing 80k in FD a good choice since I don't know anywhere better to park my money? That's an average passive income of RM287 every month. Please advise.
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Any other debts other than the assets you mentioned here?

100k cash at this age sounds good but putting in FD is definitely not gonna work for you in the long run because you will get eaten up by inflation. looking at the amount of insurance, as we dont have the coverage details, but the feeling is that you may be under insured. any plans to buy house? just wondering because it will affect the planning.
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post Apr 13 2019, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(drumstix @ Apr 10 2019, 09:06 PM)
No other debts other than my current ride. 4 more years of servicing to go. Not married either. The insurance plan that I’ve bought includes a coverage of 1mil of medical fees per annum. Am I still under insured?

I do plan to buy a house, but they’ll take up 2-3k of my monthly salary. Renting out will be a hassle. A supposed asset which doesn’t generate income becomes a liability, no? But what do I know, I’m just a newbie here smile.gif
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As we dont have the details , 1mil of medical coverage p.a. is definitely sufficient for now. Since you dont have dependent, not sure whether you have CI coverage in place, and even though PA coverage is a good thing to have but not a must.

Since you are going to buy a house, and since you are helping your dad to start paying the house, you may already eat into the Rm3k savings. This is not counted the car loan if you want to get a new car.

If you want to get a housing loan in the future, will you have the enough cash flow to pay for the mortage?

Then whether your expenses that you listed factored in vacation, payment to parents? any annual payment kind of expenses like road tax, car insurance, professional membership if any, entertainment, donation, gifts, wedding ang pow etc. Many ppl may lost sight of these kind of expenses when they look at their monthly expenses.

After you know the whole year expenses, suggest to keep at least 6 months emergency fund aside without investing it away. Then look at whether you need to have any big spending in the next 3 years, like any further education, downpayment for house / car if any etc. Say if you 6 months emergency fund is RM22.2k (based on the info you provide and not sure it is comprehensive enough), and let say you wanna budget RM30k for car downpayment, RM50k for house downpayment, then your RM100k cant be invested at all as these are for emergency and for near future use.
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post Apr 13 2019, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Wazzzap @ Apr 12 2019, 12:08 AM)
hey guys currently my family is having various debts

1. housing loan 1 - 1.3k per month (about 130k left)
2. housing loan 2 - 20k owing to developer to collect keys for the house, currently paying installment of 1.6k per month
2. overdraft - 50k
3. credit card - 18k

may I know how should i clear the debts? all debts belong to my parents and they have 0 income at the moment.

My only advice to them is to sell the current house which worth around 1m and shift to a cheaper place to clear all debts but they refuse to listen and continue to live month to month depending on me and my siblings.

my nett take home is only 5.5k and due to paying all debts i do not have any savings. lets assume my parents do not want to sell the house, what else can i do? thinking of getting personal loan to pay off 20k to get my house key and then try to rent it out first (currently in a law suit suing developer hence not planning to sell yet)
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As we dont have your full info as to what is your existing assets (any investment perhaps? or cash in bank or elsewhere etc), perhaps some general ideas:

- it is a good thing for you to ask them to sell the current house for cashflow but you might not get a good rate due to property market is not so good now. Since you dont get that option, you might want to consider why to take or NOT to take a personal loan:

a) which effective interest rate of your housing loan, overdraft and credit card is higher? credit card is usually at 18%p.a., not sure bout overdraft and housing loan is usually about <5%p.a. May not be a good idea but whether your parents or you or your siblings can withdraw the EPF money instead to pay for the RM20k? Why i say it is not a good idea is because you are losing the 6%p.a. interest in EPF should you do that (assuming they continue to give 6%p.a). In that case, if a personal loan is 5.5%p.a., you might not lose as much as the EPF if you use personal loan to pay the RM20k instead, but I personally feel that having more debts will cause you deeper into financial trouble since you already have so much debt with your limited income.

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post May 7 2019, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(peachmonkey @ May 5 2019, 04:04 PM)
Hi all,

Wanted to get some advice and views with regards to setting up an Emergency Fund. I've done some calculations on my monthly expenses and have managed to save about 6 months of expenses aside.

My question is where should I put this fund? I have a few options:
1. ASB
2. M2U Savers (roughly about 2%)
3. FD
4. High Interest SA (OCBC Booster or UOB Stash)

I don't want to dump everything in ASB that's why I'm thinking of spreading out where I put the emergency fund. Any advise what would be the best option?

Also, should I slowly increase the fund to 12 months?
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U r doing right so far. Continue to park it at ASB, as emergency fund is not for investment, so no point to diversify it. Just max the return with low risk investment which u r currently doing. Better Still, max it to rm200k . With your bumi privilege, don't bother with m2u saver, fd, or high interest SA. These are for non bumi who doesn't have access to ASB. Even non bumi is recommended to use asnb fixed price fund as emergency fund and forget bout the rest like fd or saving account.

If u feel more secure with 12mths, then u may choose to increase it. Depends on the purpose. Some may want to start a business, so they prepare maybe 1 year, 3 years or even 5 years emergency fund. Or some foresee they may get fired and will take time to get another job. So it really depends on individual circumstances. General rule of thumb, 6 mths is the guidance and probably may be good enough if ur job is very stable.

Not to forget what about any big expenditure that u might need in the next few years, like down payment for new car / house / further education / house renovation etc. This should be set aside as well.

This post has been edited by ytan053: May 7 2019, 08:48 PM
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post May 8 2019, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ May 8 2019, 12:03 PM)
If you can find units.....
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Nowadays is Extremely difficult to get the units, what to do, for a better return than FD, a lot more hardwork required. and need to spend / waste a lot of time trying to key captcha
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post Aug 6 2019, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(accessories_used @ Aug 5 2019, 03:13 PM)
Hi all sifus here , I'm in abit of dilemma , hope someone can give some helpful insight .

Let's say , I have normal saving of RM100k , what should I do with the money ?
Was thinking to just resort to FD , but then there's so many rate , so far found Bank rakyat rate to be the highest (4.1%) but no PIDM .

If anyone have any other suggestions what to do with the money please let me know . Don't mind considering fund/gold investment as well .
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MUM has replied you well. For anyone to advise you on what to do with your money, dont u think u r in a better position to decide?

Because we don't have a full pic of your position, we can only throw u questions for you to ponder, think and decide:

1) does this money serve as emergency funding or it's money that u have as spare? I.e. how long / time u can afford not to touch this money?
A) if let say u r gonna make a downpayment for house purchase that costs u rm80k next year , then do u think u will want to invest this money and subject to the market ups and downs? Esp the market is very volatile these days
B) do u have enough emergency money for at least 6 mths of your expenses?

2) if your answer to no.1 is that yes, this is spare money that u can afford to take risk, then whether u have a plan of how much into different types of assets / investments?
A) How do u determine the allocation to each investment without a plan?
B) What is your risk tolerance? Can u take low / medium /high risk and which investments suits u?
C) what is your target return? Double digit? 8%? 5%?

After q2, there are several more questions but I shall stop here. This is to illustrate that if u r serious about your money, u will do some serious step instead of leaving to the forumers to give u idea / advice . How do u decide whether the advice suits you / is correct / harm you?

 

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