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 SPM 2013 Thread v2, Nearly there !

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mingisms
post Nov 2 2013, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Nov 2 2013, 04:08 PM)
I was always under the assumption that Spindle fibers form from the centrioles and the fibers join up at the centromeres blink.gif
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Yep, that is what the book says. You are technically, based on the book, right! But I've read differently from other sources and was answering based on that. Still safer to follow the book for now.

What does the book say for spindle fibres in plants? Plant cells don't have centrioles. I know that my book says that "spindle fibres form without centrioles" but doesn't explain how/what/where.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Nov 2 2013, 03:51 PM)
I am concerned of English more than BM actually, Have been getting C's this year for English and the teacher says that its because I dont use literary devices and idiomatic expressions in my writings..

But so far SPM standards, do they care about all those? My teacher has been teaching us IGCSE english as a second language curriculum for SPM..
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Not necessary, but learn a few if your prose isn't smooth/flowery.
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post Nov 2 2013, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Nov 2 2013, 03:54 PM)
Hey guys, just wondering, for Komsas KBKK, if the question asks why a certain character(normally putera or raja) or area(heaven or some mystical place) is portrayed to have super powers/mystical powers, what would you guys write?
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Do you mean the question would be something like "pada pandangan anda, mengapakah Raja Indera Bumaya dikatakan mempunyai kuasa ajaib?"

I would answer based on the text, ie: because he can turn into a freaking bird


Or why they gave him special powers?

Because it would probably be like to menerapkan unsur fantasi untuk menarik minat pembaca

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post Nov 2 2013, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(mingisms @ Nov 2 2013, 04:46 PM)
Yep, that is what the book says. You are technically, based on the book, right! But I've read differently from other sources and was answering based on that. Still safer to follow the book for now.

What does the book say for spindle fibres in plants? Plant cells don't have centrioles. I know that my book says that "spindle fibres form without centrioles" but doesn't explain how/what/where.
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Ah k, thanks! smile.gif

Well, I once looked up spindle fibers in yahoo answer, and all I got was that the fibers just pop out without the centrioles. I remember reading that the centrioles only help to ensure the separation goes neatly and orderly. So, I assume the separation will be all messed up and everywhere without them? Hmm, I guess I'll look this up after SPM, ain't got time for distractions for now. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(mingisms @ Nov 2 2013, 04:51 PM)
Do you mean the question would be something like "pada pandangan anda, mengapakah Raja Indera Bumaya dikatakan mempunyai kuasa ajaib?"

I would answer based on the text, ie: because he can turn into a freaking bird
Or why they gave him special powers?

Because it would probably be like to menerapkan unsur fantasi untuk menarik minat pembaca
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Why they gave him special powers. I wrote that for my trials, got 0 for the 4 marks question sweat.gif
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post Nov 2 2013, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Nov 2 2013, 04:53 PM)
Why they gave him special powers. I wrote that for my trials, got 0 for the 4 marks question sweat.gif
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OMG. Wow. I think I've done something like this before. Will check.

I can't find it but I'm pretty sure I've done this question before. I think their answer was something like "menunjukkan keagungan baginda" IIRC

In relation to spindle fibres, from what I gathered, basically the centromere initiates the formation of microtubules. The centrioles act as like a collection centre, and work together with some proteins to gabung microtubules to form spindle formations. But yeah not something to think about now.
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post Nov 2 2013, 08:09 PM

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One stupid question, will our marks be deducted if we write almost exactly as the text written in textbook for Sejarah?


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post Nov 2 2013, 09:02 PM

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fail akaun will affect me to take business course ?
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Nov 2 2013, 03:51 PM)
I am concerned of English more than BM actually, Have been getting C's this year for English and the teacher says that its because I dont use literary devices and idiomatic expressions in my writings..

But so far SPM standards, do they care about all those? My teacher has been teaching us IGCSE english as a second language curriculum for SPM..
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My advice from my tutor

Complex structure
Solid vocabulary
Strong grammar

Anyway, anyone got any last minute information for BM icon_question.gif
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post Nov 2 2013, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(chrisleong99 @ Nov 2 2013, 09:02 PM)
fail akaun will affect me to take business course ?
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If u didnt take accounts also u can enter business course, just that u have to learn from scratch la
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post Nov 2 2013, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(1insane @ Nov 2 2013, 08:09 PM)
One stupid question, will our marks be deducted if we write almost exactly as the text written in textbook for Sejarah?
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Not stupid! As of now, no.
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post Nov 2 2013, 10:19 PM

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hi guys, anyone know of the marking method known as See Other Solution(SOS) in mathematics and addmaths? its like we do 2 methods which results in 2 different answer and the examiner will choose the correct one
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QUOTE(VonGoLaDeciMo @ Nov 2 2013, 10:19 PM)
hi guys, anyone know of the marking method known as See Other Solution(SOS) in mathematics and addmaths? its like we do 2 methods which results in 2 different answer and the examiner will choose the correct one
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no usually for mat/ a mat there is only one valid answer. some may have a range, for example those with many decimal places. u may lose marks for final answer if u write extra invalid ones.

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post Nov 2 2013, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(VonGoLaDeciMo @ Nov 2 2013, 10:19 PM)
hi guys, anyone know of the marking method known as See Other Solution(SOS) in mathematics and addmaths? its like we do 2 methods which results in 2 different answer and the examiner will choose the correct one
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Have heard of it. They will give you benefit of doubt. But I wouldn't count on it.
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post Nov 2 2013, 10:59 PM

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Planning to go to the national library tomorrow for some last minute, anyone here going there also? Probably we can meetup to have discussions
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post Nov 2 2013, 11:10 PM

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For 'anafora', 'responsi' and 'epifora', do the 'pengulangan need to be on the same 'baris'?
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post Nov 2 2013, 11:26 PM

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On second thought , I guess I'll drop by to answer questions ( if I can ) and also to share new stuffs ( if I do get them ) .

But I'd no longer update the front page's Candidates List . Sorry guys . And also , for now , I can't come up with secret formulas or tips or guides about how to prepare for a certain subject . Realistically , we still have a few days left , and I'm not sure how I'm able to help . My advice , for everyone , would be to ' Keep Calm and Study ' , no point in panicking at the moment . In fact , as days go by , you should try to relax more .

I'm sure most of you have tried your best and have done your part in preparing , so just bear in mind that you'll do fine ! The thing is , when SPM is over , we'll all tell our juniors not to fret that much about it . The fear of the unknown , fear of questions that might trip us up , but I'm sure the real deal would be just okay .

Try to do something to take your mind off SPM , at least for a few hours every day --- for some , it may be prayer , meditation , family time , for others it may be sports , music , or going out with friends . Whatever suits you best .

// Just got this news a few days ago , you can bring in any printed materials , including answer schemes , for Sejarah P3 . I'm sure all of you are aware of this . //
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post Nov 2 2013, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(chun96 @ Nov 2 2013, 11:10 PM)
For 'anafora', 'responsi' and 'epifora', do the 'pengulangan need to be on the same 'baris'?
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Responsi - middle of different baris
Repitisi - same baris
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post Nov 2 2013, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(maximR @ Nov 2 2013, 11:27 PM)
Responsi - middle of different baris
Repitisi - same baris
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Do the 2 'baris' need to be right after another or can be far apart?
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post Nov 2 2013, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(chun96 @ Nov 2 2013, 11:50 PM)
Do the 2 'baris' need to be right after another or can be far apart?
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Both also can , I think . Not too obsessed with it and I don't think we'll be tested that thoroughly about it since we're taking BM , not Sastera Melayu .

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