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chocobo7779
post Oct 14 2013, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Oct 14 2013, 10:44 PM)
Bad combo on the CPU+board, get 8320 and up the budget of your board.. MSI 990FXA-GD65 maybe?
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Sabertooth better... brows.gif
...or the ASUS M5A99X EVO... Though it's only x8 x8 at PCI-E 2.0... (CFX/SLI setups)
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post Oct 14 2013, 10:52 PM

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Thx for all the reply guys... but what about this motherboard

ASRock 980DE3/U3S3 AMD AM3+ ATX Mainboard [RM205], i have to save up the budget on buying the R9 280x...
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anyone know when msi version of r9 270x to hit malaysia store?

i choose msi for their low temperature.


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post Oct 14 2013, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(djronzai @ Oct 14 2013, 10:52 PM)
Thx for all the reply guys... but what about this motherboard

ASRock 980DE3/U3S3 AMD AM3+ ATX Mainboard [RM205], i have to save up the budget on buying the R9 280x...
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sweat.gif this motherboard have isuee with FX proc facing overheat around area cpu cooler on website got * * For cooling the CPU and its surrounding components, please install a CPU cooler with a top-down blowing design.
need install aftermaket cooler.

FX proc is hot cpu the cheap mobo can handle FX proc with no isuee mybe from gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 (rev. 4.0) RM460
http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-pa...spx?pid=4672#ov
(rev. 4.0) is less isuee than other rev
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or msi 990FXA-GD65 RM409, Promo RM3XX
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/990FXA-GD65.html
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post Oct 14 2013, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Oct 14 2013, 10:46 PM)
Sabertooth better... brows.gif
...or the ASUS M5A99X EVO... Though it's only x8 x8 at PCI-E 2.0... (CFX/SLI setups)
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Budget bro budget. tongue.gif

x8 x8 is fine, but M5A99X is almost RM100 more expensive than 990FXA-GD65 and not a whole lot better.

QUOTE(djronzai @ Oct 14 2013, 10:52 PM)
Thx for all the reply guys... but what about this motherboard

ASRock 980DE3/U3S3 AMD AM3+ ATX Mainboard [RM205], i have to save up the budget on buying the R9 280x...
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Sry i don't have much experience about buying mainboard. My stand is firm, FX8320+990FXA-GD65. tongue.gif

QUOTE(-bLiZZarD- @ Oct 14 2013, 11:02 PM)
anyone know when msi version of r9 270x to hit malaysia store?

i choose msi for their low temperature.
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Does that mean other brand have high temperature? laugh.gif
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post Oct 14 2013, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Oct 14 2013, 10:44 PM)
Bad combo on the CPU+board, get 8320 and up the budget of your board.. MSI 990FXA-GD65 maybe?
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Is it really no difference between 8350 and 8320? I heard 8350 are those better chips, 8320 usually lose out in OC etc like a bad batch of 8350 which they make into 8320.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Oct 14 2013, 11:12 PM)
Budget bro budget. tongue.gif

x8 x8 is fine, but M5A99X is almost RM100 more expensive than 990FXA-GD65 and not a whole lot better.
Sry i don't have much experience about buying mainboard. My stand is firm, FX8320+990FXA-GD65. tongue.gif
Does that mean other brand have high temperature? laugh.gif
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by reading from this article,

http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-detail...9-270x-hawk/16/

msi are slightly cooler and have lower noise too. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(-bLiZZarD- @ Oct 14 2013, 11:21 PM)
by reading from this article,

http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-detail...9-270x-hawk/16/

msi are slightly cooler and have lower noise too.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Y not check the sapphire toxic... huhuhu
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QUOTE(azsace @ Oct 14 2013, 11:23 PM)
Y not check the sapphire toxic... huhuhu
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sapphire toxis is good too. but the warranty and the temperature which makes me go for msi.
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QUOTE(sasaug @ Oct 14 2013, 11:15 PM)
Is it really no difference between 8350 and 8320? I heard 8350 are those better chips, 8320 usually lose out in OC etc like a bad batch of 8350 which they make into 8320.
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There is a difference but not really noticeable. Indeed FX8350 is a better binned chip so you can overclock higher than FX8320 but YMMV and yes, that is how they make chip. Failed 7970 became 7950 and failed 7950 became 7870XT.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Oct 14 2013, 11:41 PM)
There is a difference but not really noticeable. Indeed FX8350 is a better binned chip so you can overclock higher than FX8320 but YMMV and yes, that is how they make chip. Failed 7970 became 7950 and failed 7950 became 7870XT.
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Wow, TIL
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post Oct 15 2013, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(meons @ Oct 14 2013, 11:07 PM)
sweat.gif this motherboard have isuee with  FX proc   facing overheat  around area cpu cooler  on website  got *  * For cooling the CPU and its surrounding components, please install a CPU cooler with a top-down blowing design.
need install aftermaket cooler.

FX proc is hot cpu    the cheap mobo can handle FX proc  with no isuee mybe from gigabyte  GA-990FXA-UD3 (rev. 4.0) RM460
http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-pa...spx?pid=4672#ov
(rev. 4.0) is less isuee than other rev
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hmm.gif A quick Google search found that this board is plagued by VRM overheating issues...
Update: Looks like the rev 4 version may not be affected, though.

This post has been edited by chocobo7779: Oct 15 2013, 12:27 AM
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post Oct 15 2013, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ Oct 14 2013, 09:17 PM)
the titan killer is making its debut on 15th October  drool.gif
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NDA lifts on the 15th? Been waiting to see some benchies
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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Oct 15 2013, 12:32 AM)
NDA lifts on the 15th? Been waiting to see some benchies
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Sorry i forgot to post this, not today bro.

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The new launch date

My yesterday’s post about the launch date caused a huge misunderstanding on multiple forums. So let me rephrase what I wanted to say and hopefully this will clear things a bit. The R9 290X will not launch tomorrow, instead it will launch around October 24th, while R9 290 should arrive on October 31st (both dates are just rumors, but a very good ones).

I was also told that October 15th, which was an NDA date in the slides leaked by Donanim Haber (and no, we didn’t made that up), was just a milestone, which was later updated by AMD during the GPU 14 event. Apparently they didn’t update it on time and it somehow made its way to the web. So technically it was postponed, but AMD will just say it was never meant to be launched on this date. Instead they will just claim it’s right on track and the schedule has not changed (of course it didn’t, but we never learned the official launch date).



Sauce: HIS Radeon R9 290X pictured up close
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FX8350 power consumption: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/0...x-8350-review/7

Gigabyte VRM burn problem, killing the CPU, too: http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2012/...x-8350-cpu.aspx
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Please do not say that 'oh, I don't plan to overclock, so this won't happen to me...'. You need to know such things can happen, and in some cases, you cannot claim warranty because got burn mark. Even if you claim innocence from doing any sorts of overclocking.

One more thing, this is super off-topic.
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post Oct 15 2013, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Oct 15 2013, 12:24 AM)
hmm.gif A quick Google search found that this board is plagued by VRM overheating issues...
Update:  Looks like the rev 4 version may not be affected, though.
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yap other rev1.0-3.0 facing blown MOSFET when deal with FX proc

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rev 4 version come new layout pcb/MOSFET like they redesign it back
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While everyone talking about Mantle going to be awesome, but there isn't any statistic showing about how much gain we going to have.

Talking about CPU, I'm a programmer guy, and I'm unsure that why they mention CPU on this kind of graphic API. From what I can assume is that usually library aka API have some task to be done by CPU before offloading and when result come back in certain format, it need to decode and return the result in the format the developer wanted. In this case, I'm just saying this CPU thing won't be like a whole lot great deal, perhaps they utilise multi-threading when doing all these conversion or the graphic card low level itself requires much lesser conversion to be done. For common wrapper like DirectX, they usually have their own object class for certain format because they need to be a universal one so it can be shared among other platform card. I'm still waiting for some statistic before confirming on this but the card is built to cater this API, so it isn't the API which is awesome but like they said if they can cover up DirectX object conversion and extra handling then it will be great. Still remember it's hardware specific and unless it's similar to OpenGl/DirectX interface, developers might not be so interested to port over.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 14 2013, 10:36 PM)
why is Asrock board bad?

I'm using them, ok also.
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because that particular Asrock board does not support 125w FX CPU?
http://www.asrock.com/mb/NVIDIA/N68C-GS%20FX/?cat=CPU

u want him to try to blow his mobo ar? lol

btw this is seriously sign0006.gif thanks to djronzai
QUOTE(sasaug @ Oct 15 2013, 01:30 AM)
While everyone talking about Mantle going to be awesome, but there isn't any statistic showing about how much gain we going to have.

Talking about CPU, I'm a programmer guy, and I'm unsure that why they mention CPU on this kind of graphic API. From what I can assume is that usually library aka API have some task to be done by CPU before offloading  and when result come back in certain format, it need to decode and return the result in the format the developer wanted. In this case, I'm just saying this CPU thing won't be like a whole lot great deal, perhaps they utilise multi-threading when doing all these conversion or the graphic card low level itself requires much lesser conversion to be done. For common wrapper like DirectX, they usually have their own object class for certain format because they need to be a universal one so it can be shared among other platform card. I'm still waiting for some statistic before confirming on this but the card is built to cater this API, so it isn't the API which is awesome but like they said if they can cover up DirectX object conversion and extra handling then it will be great. Still remember it's hardware specific and unless it's similar to OpenGl/DirectX interface, developers might not be so interested to port over.
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it is the CPU draw calls they has been talking about. Developers has been making a lot of complains about DirectX inefficient API for years. Mantle if really is close to metal, it would seems be making developer's life easier.

Microsoft has been "rather" dormant in DirectX development lately. They seems to focus on Xbox.
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QUOTE(Boldnut @ Oct 15 2013, 06:59 AM)
because that particular Asrock board does not support 125w FX CPU?
http://www.asrock.com/mb/NVIDIA/N68C-GS%20FX/?cat=CPU

u want him to try to blow his mobo ar? lol

btw this is seriously sign0006.gif  thanks to djronzai
it is the CPU draw calls they has been talking about. Developers has been making a lot of complains about DirectX inefficient API for years. Mantle if really is close to metal, it would seems be making developer's life easier.

Microsoft has been "rather" dormant in DirectX development lately. They seems to focus on Xbox.
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that is why AMD paid 8 million to DICE to use Mantle upon developer request.If it was developer request than why Amd is paying because it just rubbish and marketing nothing more.Even John Carmack the creator of Linux and Doom game has mantle and Nvidia OpenGL has no difference but both cannot be used.

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Wait, so price for RX 280X(which is kinna same with 7970) is lower than HD7970?

O instead of getting another HD7970 for crossfire, I should just get a RX 280X for crossfire right?

Mine is HD7970, not the Ghz version.

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