goldfriesthanks...

Updating actual numbers from GBros with permission:
With TrueAudio: in order of Toxic, Vapor-X, Normal, and any other variant as denoted
R9-290X - Hawaii 2816 SPU - $699
Speculate: R9-290
R7-260X - 7790 (Bonaire XTX) with TrueAudio and higher memspeed $139 = RM535

No True Audio: in order of Toxic, Vapor-X, Normal, and any other variant as denoted
R9-280X - 7970GE rebrand $299 = RM1289/ 1229/ 1159
Speculate: R9-280 (7950 rebrand?) $249??

R7-270X - 7870GE (Pitcairn) $199 = RM889/ 839/ 759 /869(4G)
R7-250 - Oland XT $89 = RM375 (1GD5)/365 (2GD3)
R7-240 - Oland Pro $69 = RM329 (1GD5)/319 (2GD3)

From hikari85 listed price if bundled with PSU:
Sapphire ~ last update OCT 2013~
*bundle with PSU

Sapphire R9 280X Toxic 3GB GDDR5 384BIT RM1289 , Promo @ RM1199*
Sapphire R9 280X Vapor-X 3GB GDDR5 384BIT RM1229 , Promo @ RM1139*
Sapphire R9 280X Dual-X 2GB GDDR5 256BIT RM1159 , Promo @ RM1079*

Sapphire R9 270X Toxic with Boost 3GB GDDR5 384BIT RM889 , Promo @ RM829*
Sapphire R9 270X Vapor-X OC with Boost 2GB GDDR5 256BIT RM839 , Promo @ RM779*
Sapphire R9 270X Dual-X OC with Boost 4GB GDDR5 256BIT RM869 , Promo @ RM809*
Sapphire R9 270X Dual-X OC with Boost 2GB GDDR5 256BIT RM759 , Promo @ RM709*

Sapphire R7 260X OC 2GB GDDR5 128BIT RM535 , Promo @ RM499
Sapphire R7 250 with Boost 1GB GDDR5 128BIT RM375 , Promo @ RM355
Sapphire R7 250 with Boost 2GB GDDR3 128BIT RM365 , Promo @ RM345
Sapphire R7 240 with Boost 1GB GDDR5 128BIT RM329 , Promo @ RM315
Sapphire R7 240 with Boost 2GB GDDR3 128BIT RM319 , Promo @ RM305

This post has been edited by alexei: Oct 10 2013, 03:31 PM

Acid_RuleZz well, hikari85 is threat famous for cheaper than other LYN sellers. I wonder would they slash price for HD7950 old stock in the store... I'd get those anyday compared to 7970 or 280X.

Between the same model of cards, every one of them are different. I have seen really bad and really good Vapor-X before, and their serial numbers are back to back some more. Do not depend on reviews, ultimately it is your luck.

Not to forget, start with GPU-Z ASIC value is rule of my sore thumb.

Sapphire in Malaysia is cheapest, thanks to our importer and distributor.
Other brands are more expensive, also thanks to the importers, or lack of them.

Normally, I compare price in US sites like Amazon and Newegg.
Example, MSI WF3 is cheaper than Vapor-X, but more expensive in Malaysia. So, naturally I buy Vapor-X.

At the moment, even Newegg don't have R9-280X pricing... Malaysians get it first!!!

Thanks...
Seems with a TOP END GPU, you'll need a tier-2 CPU to match it.
I wonder how would

These, or anything lesser, will cause a bottleneck:
Core-i3
FX-6xxx
FX-4xxx

This post has been edited by alexei: Oct 11 2013, 12:06 PM

If for me, using the card with stock BIOS setting (clock, memspeed, core voltage, fan profile) is a waste of money.
Get one with the best hardware, and tune the card to your preference.

My take: Sap-Toxic, ASUS DC2T, Giga WF3, then other Sapphire.

Toxic: Seems like pre-selected 'better' core, with more VRM, better hardware and extra cooling.
DC2T and WF3: Superb cooling. Can re-profile the fan to do even better.
Vapor-X or Twin-X: performance same, just that Twin-X BIOS is lousier with lesser hardware monitor.

No experience with MSI.

Price wise, refer to my earlier post about Sapphire being more expensive in US, vs the other way around in Malaysia.
ASUS is always 2.5 slot design, so be warned.

ASUS DC2T fan RPM only runs up to 50+% at peak temp, vs Sapphire one following the GPU temp, aka 70C = 70%.

If you tweak the fan profile to force ASUS DC2T to run according to GPU temp, you will see how much better it is having the Direct Copper thing.

ASUS pricelist it seems
R9-280X-P-3GD5 MATRIX - RM1499
R9-280X-DC2T-3GD5 ------ RM1299
R9-270X-DC2T-2GD5 ------ RM859

R7-260X-DC2OC-2GD5 - RM589
R7-250-1GD5 - RM349
R7-240-2GD3 - RM269

Compare Sapphire
R9-280X Toxic ----- RM1289
R9-280X Vapor-X - RM1229
R9-280X Twin-X --- RM1159

R7-270X Toxic --------- RM889
R7-270X Vapor-X ----- RM839
R7-270X Dual-X ------- RM759
R7-270X Dual-X 4GB - RM869

R7-260-2GD5 - RM539
R7-250-1GD5 - RM379
R7-250-2GD3 - RM369
R7-240-1GD5 - RM329
R7-240-2GD3 - RM319

This post has been edited by alexei: Oct 11 2013, 05:23 PM

FX8350 power consumption: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/0...x-8350-review/7

Gigabyte VRM burn problem, killing the CPU, too: http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2012/...x-8350-cpu.aspx


Please do not say that 'oh, I don't plan to overclock, so this won't happen to me...'. You need to know such things can happen, and in some cases, you cannot claim warranty because got burn mark. Even if you claim innocence from doing any sorts of overclocking.

One more thing, this is super off-topic.

Mantle, is a choice for game developers who want to deliver for PC users, faster than they would using current methods, aka DirectX.

This post has been edited by alexei: Oct 15 2013, 11:14 PM

Acid_RuleZz Looks like not just Mantle, OpenGL extensions too... that means future games do not need 'game optimized' drivers.

http://www.dsogaming.com/news/amd-aims-to-...the-bottleneck/

As for Nvidia, their business priority seems to be cracking the mobile business. I sure do not hope them to drop desktop GPU.

Steam prototype machines are Nvidia, but they are not dumping AMD. News is they'll get there in 2014.

AMD/ATI won the consoles, too, landing XBox One and PS4, putting x86 into consoles. With that, PC-Mantle is just few more shorter steps away to getting early games. Not as easy as it sounds, but definitely better than legacy consoles IMO.

For Nvidia's case, I don't know what to look forward to.
Lately there's word that they are putting 64-bit into phone SoCs. Maybe that's something.
Maxwell? I don't see it.

Got hope:
Their new CFO: http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/Releases/NVID...fficer-a26.aspx

And she immediately got stock bonus:
http://www.nasdaq.com/quotes/insiders/kress-colette-917514
220k @ $15.41 = $3.39 Million

Nvidia hired an ex-M$ to work for them? Some more to take care their finances... haha

Quick blog news: M$ may have conflicts of interest with AMD. On one hand, there's Xbox One where M$ needs AMD, and on the other the DirectX for PC, where Mantle may be a direct competitor.
SOS: Anandtech

AMD cards do throttle, I tried remove their heatsink, the temps shootup to 99C and it throttles. I managed not to fry my card. It happened with one of my HD6xxx-series. HD7xxx-series have this, too.

sai86If only I play games, then I would be able to relate.
I buy the cards, overclock, undervolt and re-profile the fans, to make them run below 70C under stress.

I hope the maths is right.

When there was only Titan/780, it is the best money can buy.
So, if you were nvidia, wouldn't you simply sell it at its reasonable price?

Plus, it seems that Nvidia have difficulty getting out big amount of the chip, so it has to be charged a premium to balance out the demand against the supply.

AMD, if they don't have the yield problem, then it would be about making money the fastest way possible, that is to sell them at a more reasonable price.

No, Nvidia is not sucking money. They're just doing business.

I oredi explained above, read again, and think a little bit.

G-sync, is one good thing, and think it is a right move bringing something like this to consumers. It is not just for gaming, it may be the future of everything video - variable fps movies, documentary, action telecasts, and of course, gaming. In terms of 'bigness', I think nvidia nailed this one, compared to Mantle.