the price for 260X vs 7790 = SIGH!!!!

I guess I go for 7790 -.-

it is not higher by much when 7790 is already OC edition.

1075/6400/1GB vs 1100/6500/2GB

2GB doesnt really bring much extra performance even @ 1920x1080p MSAA 4x in BF3 lol, I think u need 2560x1440 to hit pass 1GB limit.

yes, only when u hit pass 1920x1080, otherwise 1GB is kinda sufficient "for now". I am not sure about the future PS4/XboxOne console port tho. Might be diff there.

highest pre-OCed is Asus 1188/7000. I am waiting to see how much it cost, Sapphire OCed is already RM500-535, looks like it will be near RM600 range for Asus, not much hope

Sapphire 260x is 1150/6600, not much higher than Asus 1075/6400 7790.

get the 256bit card, 270X.

mantle is going to be big enough that u ignore Nvidia. My logic is DICE is not stupid to code Bf4 mantle 2years just for mini 5% increase performance. my prediction? at least 10-20% bonus if u run mantle over DirectX.

that Asus 260x price...... sorry man I am not going buy 260x lol

I suggest u grab the Asus Sabertooth 990FX mobo ~RM600, it comes with extra 2 years warranty definitely worth it and it is extra reliable. That Asrock board is kinda bad.

because that particular Asrock board does not support 125w FX CPU?
http://www.asrock.com/mb/NVIDIA/N68C-GS%20FX/?cat=CPU

u want him to try to blow his mobo ar? lol

btw this is seriously thanks to djronzai
it is the CPU draw calls they has been talking about. Developers has been making a lot of complains about DirectX inefficient API for years. Mantle if really is close to metal, it would seems be making developer's life easier.

Microsoft has been "rather" dormant in DirectX development lately. They seems to focus on Xbox.

AMD paid DICE is because of the exclusive bundle and optimization. The deal also include the exclusive rights to use Battlefield to promote Mantle API. This is the same as Nvidia paid 5million Ubisoft to get their game optimize for Nvidia card.

Mantle is not rubbish, u obviously have poor understanding on software & APIs, how could u relate John Carmark as linux creator, He isnt the creator. Doom use OpenGL, not mantle, Mantle does not exist back then.

OpenGL is a high level API. It is design to run best compatibility across diff GPUs. OpenGL is also initially design for professional graphics.

On performance wise Mantle is going to be more efficient in every area than DirectX/OpenGL.

Ur entire post are wrong totally.

ok boss next time need to be extra specific.
Lets dont get into this fanboy thing.

1. I already said AMD pay for exclusive rights for BF4 marketing. Nvidia paid 5million to Ubisoft to do the same. AMD are not forcing DICE to use that API exclusively. Infact that API is co-develop by DICE as well, if u want to develop something u have to put some money on it, there is no such thing as free development cost or DICE putting 100% money to develop that API. Thats where the 8million is part of the deal.
2. Nobody is saying they are completely drop DirectX/OpenGL nor they claim Mantle is their top priority. This story is coming out from ur mouth only. Mantle is an add-on feature that only benefit AMD GPU, it is not an API to completely replace DirectX/OpenGL
3. AMD command 100% share in console market. Games has been develop in console market first then only ported to PC for years already. Next gen consoles are x86+GCN base, so there are a lot of similarity between PS4/Xbox vs a PC with AMD GCN GPU. Developer will highly likely to use this API to develop games that is for PS4/Xbox/PC with GCN GPU, then only add a DirectX/OpenGL support for Nvidia/Intel GPU. It is much easier this way instead of dealing with 3-4 diff APIs across 3 platforms.

In other words DirectX/OpenGL become the extra work for developer who develop Console ported game that use Mantle.

u still couldnt get it? the thing is Console Games are code to use GCN graphics, When u are close to Metal, u only have a very shallow layer of software. The entire Engine is specially optimized for GCN already. DirectX is a high level API, it has rather restrictive library. Developer have to go back to their engine to rewrite just for DirectX. Thats the Extra work. Why do u think Rockstar do not port over GTA V to PC? because it is not very straight forward thing. DirectX does not make console porting to PC easy. Mantle is easier because it give u the full access of GPU capability like the console did. Microsoft has been sleeping for many years in PC, they are only focus on gaming in Xbox. Gaming in Microsoft eyes is --> Xbox first, PC Windows second.

IMO, it does not make any sense for the developer NOT use mantle.

This post has been edited by Boldnut: Oct 15 2013, 08:39 PM

Any clear stock discount for Asus HD7000 series b4 phasing out? Really hope u guys doing that so I can get my second GPU to crossfire @ cheap price

RM2799 is already pretty cheap when vs the TITANs. thats is on a BF4 edition + the launch price premium + on Asus.

So I think at some point it will settle around 2K for the basic edition.

if u minus all those extra bundle, u can pretty much guess the pricing for Sapphire is somewhere around RM1.8K-2K

not bad for a card that equal or beat TITAN.

they probably trying to figure out how this thing work on all GPUs.

AMD has gone mad already..... price soo cheap.... Suddenly almost all Geforce is overpriced now lol