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post Jun 10 2006, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ Jun 10 2006, 08:56 PM)
so you're saying when i my televisyen is broken i simply send in the item and expect an immediate refund at the same day? i mean can any of you actually wait for him to explain it for himself ? his really not well right now. two people already called him and know his sick.

he's a good forumer and a good friend. just give some time. its not like he's running away and why everyone attacking the safe trade? jealousy? laugh.gif
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nope ... i know i must waiting the solution for the claim , all i need is a exactly DATE! biggrin.gif If you can't confirm, just don promise me , and me also promise my boss. At last my boss suspect me is "PUSING PUSING KAKI"

Just like you send an item to claim warranty , that company promise you can take after 2 week , then when u go take after 2 week , he promise again another 2 week to him , and same case about 2~3 times + the phone number is always busy line,wasting your time , your mobile phone credit. So what your feel ? whistling.gif

And he also say that "when i bank-in, just post the faulty HDD" , And he got no 20GB HDD also . He not keeping his promise and what should i do ? he not bank-in to me , how i send the faulty HDD to him ? how to solve the problems? just seat and waitng ?

This case compare with your "example" is not same ...... blush.gif

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post Jun 11 2006, 12:05 AM

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I just called pokju, he's indeed sick. Yes, suspected dengue fever.

Could just wait for awhile, ok you have been waiting long enough.

So, as far as I'm concerned, the problem is within his supplier. Just wait till he get back, this kinda illness is not something to joke around.

P/s: I thought you were the one who bising2 your HDD didn't arrive on the 2nd day after you banked in (and he poslaju it after 3Pm, obviously it'd take 2 days to arrive)? Did the poslaju arrived on the 3rd day? And because of that you accused him as a conman, no?

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post Jun 11 2006, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ Jun 10 2006, 08:56 PM)
so you're saying when i my televisyen is broken i simply send in the item and expect an immediate refund at the same day? i mean can any of you actually wait for him to explain it for himself ? his really not well right now. two people already called him and know his sick.

he's a good forumer and a good friend. just give some time. its not like he's running away and why everyone attacking the safe trade? jealousy? laugh.gif
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Your case example is not relevant and not related to the points of the thread starter.

The thread starter has explained to you at 2 posts before this.
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post Jun 11 2006, 01:47 AM

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how come mod doesnt revoke his safe trader tag? eventhough pokju is old member, that doesnt mean he get any immunity doh.gif
take for example tkwfriend case ; safe trader tag immedietly gone doh.gif
once u promise, u r binded with agreement between 2 party.. n now 1 party broke it, who shall pay for it?
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post Jun 11 2006, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jun 10 2006, 07:34 PM)
I can't agree on what you have claimed. Pokju deal with the thread starter. Pokju has responsibility in payment if anything happens regardless of whether the money is with pokju or with his supplier.

He has to return the money to the buyer first and then claim from his supplier.
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but he's having a denggi fever,what do u expect?
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post Jun 11 2006, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jun 10 2006, 08:35 PM)
i think his safe trader tag SUDAH DILUCUTkan, right?
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Jun 11 2006, 01:47 AM)
how come mod doesnt revoke his safe trader tag? eventhough pokju is old member, that doesnt mean he get any immunity doh.gif
take for example tkwfriend case ; safe trader tag immedietly gone doh.gif
once u promise, u r binded with agreement between 2 party.. n now 1 party broke it, who shall pay for it?
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QUOTE(siemens6688 @ Jun 10 2006, 10:14 PM)
Nope .... i not attacking his safe trader !!! @_@ ! if he really sick just give me a reason thats " I really not feeling well , can you wait until i get well and i ppromise i will solve for you as soon as possible okay? " NOT "i will bank in few day la OR another 2 day ok?" "The money is not at me right now but my supplier"

          I 'm sorry if about him not feeling well , hope he will get well soon , but he did't told me he are sick and talking well to let me wait pantiently , just simply say "ok , ok , ok ...... ok! ok! " untill i hang up the phone !

          And i was think he are not serious about my deal after hearing his last call.
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nah, i was refering to two post up there. come on imperialrealcs. it doesnt mean when you're put inside M.O list, everyone haev to be inside there join with you right? wink.gif at least tkwfriend able to post himself up before mod make a judgment.

QUOTE(siemens6688 @ Jun 10 2006, 10:25 PM)
nope ... i know i must waiting the solution for the claim , all i need is a exactly DATE! biggrin.gif  If you can't confirm, just don promise me , and me also promise my boss. At last my boss suspect me is "PUSING PUSING KAKI"

        Just like you send an item to claim warranty , that company promise you can take after 2 week , then when u go take after 2 week , he promise again another 2 week to him , and same case about 2~3 times + the phone number is always busy line,wasting your time , your mobile phone credit. So what your feel ? whistling.gif

          And he also say that "when i bank-in, just post the faulty HDD" , And he got no 20GB HDD also . He not keeping his promise and what should i do ? he not bank-in to me , how i send the faulty HDD to him ? how to solve the problems? just seat and waitng ?

          This case compare with your "example" is not same ...... blush.gif
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if he had told ya his sick would you believe it? now theres another forumer confirmed his sick. so what now? posting here more wont make his recover faster you know.


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post Jun 11 2006, 02:28 AM

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kecoh for what? how about u go to his hospital and kecoh there? see what the staffs there will do to u. ppl kena dengue la. u want him to do what?
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post Jun 11 2006, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(tsg @ Jun 11 2006, 02:18 AM)
but he's having a denggi fever,what do u expect?
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as claimed by other forumers, he should say I am having denggi and shall I transfer the fund to you once I recover it?

But he did not say so. He promised to pay on certain dates, which means that he knew himself shall be recovered from at that dates.

The point is that, we are not forcing him to pay the soonest since he is in denggi. We can understand his situation but why he wanna promise something and to let people wait the promise to be realised?

He is a safer trader and he does a lot of selling stuff. For sure he has online banking facility to enable him performs the transaction via online. Well, takkan denggi sleep forever on the bed ah?
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post Jun 11 2006, 11:02 AM

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Uzumaki NaruTo, avenger, enough la.

I used to use the 'sick' reason during my freelancing days, but just because I didn't have enough time to complete projects.

Even if you sick, you can ask someone else to refund for, the buyer has every right to complain. Now you want buyers to have 'safe buyer', duh.

QUOTE(tsg @ Jun 11 2006, 02:18 AM)
but he's having a denggi fever,what do u expect?
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But he's HD kong,what do u expect? Him to go yay yay? Already weeks la.
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post Jun 11 2006, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(woundxp @ Jun 11 2006, 11:02 AM)
Uzumaki NaruTo, avenger, enough la.

I used to use the 'sick' reason during my freelancing days, but just because I didn't have enough time to complete projects.

Even if you sick, you can ask someone else to refund for, the buyer has every right to complain. Now you want buyers to have 'safe buyer', duh.
But he's HD kong,what do u expect? Him to go yay yay? Already weeks la.
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They are overprotected him.

I am here not to protect who. I do not have any relationship with Pokju or thread starter, my judgement was based on matter and fact, NOT on the person.
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QUOTE(c9 @ Jun 11 2006, 12:05 AM)
I just called pokju, he's indeed sick. Yes, suspected dengue fever.

Could just wait for awhile, ok you have been waiting long enough.

So, as far as I'm concerned, the problem is within his supplier. Just wait till he get back, this kinda illness is not something to joke around.

P/s: I thought you were the one who bising2 your HDD didn't arrive on the 2nd day after you banked in (and he poslaju it after 3Pm, obviously it'd take 2 days to arrive)? Did the poslaju arrived on the 3rd day? And because of that you accused him as a conman, no?
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once he promised...dun giv any reason...izzit pokju answer his call after he"mb recover from sick" unsure.gif unsure.gif

not to kacau buyer n seller, jus to help buyer to make something clear.

few day...how many day consider is "few day" ??
wait for a while... how much time/hours/day/month/years consider "wait for a while"??

for buyer- we r paying money for u(seller) to get the service/item.
for seller- u r recieve our money n provide us(buyer) item/service n not a reason


QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Jun 11 2006, 01:47 AM)
how come mod doesnt revoke his safe trader tag? eventhough pokju is old member, that doesnt mean he get any immunity doh.gif
take for example tkwfriend case ; safe trader tag immedietly gone doh.gif
once u promise, u r binded with agreement between 2 party.. n now 1 party broke it, who shall pay for it?
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whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif u know i know lah... brows.gif
get wat i means??? doh.gif

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post Jun 11 2006, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(c9 @ Jun 11 2006, 12:05 AM)
I just called pokju, he's indeed sick. Yes, suspected dengue fever.

Could just wait for awhile, ok you have been waiting long enough.

So, as far as I'm concerned, the problem is within his supplier. Just wait till he get back, this kinda illness is not something to joke around.

P/s: I thought you were the one who bising2 your HDD didn't arrive on the 2nd day after you banked in (and he poslaju it after 3Pm, obviously it'd take 2 days to arrive)? Did the poslaju arrived on the 3rd day? And because of that you accused him as a conman, no?
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vmad.gif I didn't think or say or confirm he is a CONMAN!!!!

1st: He did't tell me what time he post the HDD!
2rd: I only know he post the parcel after 3.00PM when i called him 2nd day about "Why i haven receive the HDD"

3rd: I am not Bising2 from start to now!!!!
4 : He delaying me before he are falling to sick.


All i wanna say is :

POKJU are NOT RESPONDBILITY SELLER not CONMAN!


I not forcing him pay the money from start until now , ok? And i also not flaming this because i "ACCUSED" he is a CONMAN! I also post at my 1st tread with "He Is A Great Seller" rclxub.gif

If he think i like to Bising-bising coz RM70 then plz let him know this case is fully settled , he no need to pay me . mad.gif

P/S : I buy from him 3 HDD total , only 1 HDD faulty . If i not a "SAFE BUYER" then i will totaly say ALL 3 HDD is FAULTY , PLEASE REFUND! rclxub.gif

Very disapointed with SAFE TRADER, really ....

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no comment for u all newbies

if u think dengue can easily settled within few days just like when u take panadol when fever, think about it again. dengue got serious implications if not treated well. so intensive care should be taken

and u all newbies forgot about 1 thing i guess, hospitals/wards dont give u internet access ROFL

i guess he will settle with u all once he is out.

and no, he is not overprotected. the one that is overprotected is mr eat shit.
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post Jun 11 2006, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ Jun 11 2006, 02:23 AM)
nah, i was refering to two post up there. come on imperialrealcs. it doesnt mean when you're put inside M.O list, everyone haev to be inside there join with you right? wink.gif at least tkwfriend able to post himself up before mod make a judgment.
if he had told ya his sick would you believe it? now theres another forumer confirmed his sick. so what now? posting here more wont make his recover faster you know.
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Hey , please type correctly , OK? I not join them OR them join me , Who are attacking POKJU SAFE TRADER i donno .. But I NOT !!!!

I belive he is sick ok , i know he sick ok , thats why i post this before you write this , have you seeing whole tread when u posting these????


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Nope .... i not attacking his safe trader !!! @_@ ! if he really sick just give me a reason thats " I really not feeling well , can you wait until i get well and i ppromise i will solve for you as soon as possible okay? " NOT "i will bank in few day la OR another 2 day ok?" "The money is not at me right now but my supplier"

I 'm sorry if about him not feeling well , hope he will get well soon , but he did't told me he are sick and talking well to let me wait pantiently , just simply say "ok , ok , ok ...... ok! ok! " untill i hang up the phone !

And i was think he are not serious about my deal after hearing his last call.


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post Jun 11 2006, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ Jun 11 2006, 02:23 AM)
nah, i was refering to two post up there. come on imperialrealcs. it doesnt mean when you're put inside M.O list, everyone haev to be inside there join with you right? wink.gif at least tkwfriend able to post himself up before mod make a judgment.
if he had told ya his sick would you believe it? now theres another forumer confirmed his sick. so what now? posting here more wont make his recover faster you know.
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yeah, again, like quoted by se7en,

QUOTE(se7en @ Dec 21 2004, 03:41 PM)
-The tag is not just a tag, it would mean that you will have to adhere to a high level of conduct when doing transactions whether it be buying or selling. Failure to live up to the tag will result in it being removed, and if you loose it, you will never get it back.

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u dun f la whether i'm in MO list or not, coz mod use this word to revoke my safetrader tag.. n now is the same thing.. no, i'm not mod, i'm reminding mod smile.gif
u c? till now POKJU is still safe trader holder -.-
maybe mod n them are friends, thats y no action taken.. dun care bout dengue 1st.. before he confirm he is infected with dengue, he did promise

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He promise me will bank in RM70 (RM65 for the Faulty HDD, RM5 for send back the Faulty HDD to him) at 26/5/2006 since i have post a topic at Memory & Drives section LINK :http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=293401&hl=Pokju

i tell him my boss is asking me why the seller did't refund the money since the problems exist? , I told him if he got another 20GB HDD just send me again and i will send back that faulty HDD to him , But he say 20GB habis already , 80 GB la ... i reply cannot becos my boss only need 20GB . So , he agree to refund to me ASAP.

I have called him many times but no ppl answer the phone ,finaly 5/6/2006 he answer my call and he answer : "sorry for nobody answer, i now at hospital , suspected penyakit nyamuk" ("denggi"i donno how to spell")"will be bank in in this 2 days" And i agreed....


to refund back but failed.. then call him again n say kena dengue doh.gif
friend/family cannot help? dont tell me he dun have any friend in LYN doh.gif
and according to se7en, seller must adhere a high level of conduct when doing transactions, understand?
i dont c reason why his safe trader shouldn't be revoke..
26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, of May + 1, 2, 3 of June..
total of 9days couldnt juz send a refund via maybank2u (or any banking service?)?
ingnoring 4th, 5th of june coz he might suspected himself being infected with dengue.. but hell, 9days? more than 1 week?

edited : sorry, chapalang english sweat.gif

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post Jun 11 2006, 08:27 PM

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To clear things up, no he didn't pick the phone. It was one of his relative called me back, and passed to him.. And he said to me, he'll his ass up here ASAP.

Well, we should listen to both parties. So you guys think once you had a complain from anyone, those "tags" should be removed immediately? Ah, come on! Let him speak up for himself first, and if found guilty, by all means take that freaking tags away.

Just something to add on, the problem is within his supplier as he said. So he would either refund or give a used 20GB or something. Anyway, have you explained to your boss or something. Its not he's trying to con or what so ever. Yes, he has friends, but then in that kinda situation, what ever critical comes first.

P/s: You have to bear with this kinda situation if you trade online. Things sometimes wouldn't go as smooth as you think. I think, nowadays newbies kinda freaked out if things gone not as expected. Its a good thing to be alert, but the down is, something like this. Item arrived a day late = conman? Oh, you didn't say he's a conman, but accusing? Duh.. laugh.gif

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imperialrealcs: I do not appreciate being labelled as biased. You've reminded me enough, thank you very much but now leave the team to make our decision.

We take the safe trader tag seriously; and as such we give both parties sufficient opportunity to reply.
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Hmm, I think this thread should be temporarily closed whilst waiting for our member "pokju" to clear things up.
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post Jun 11 2006, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(najminaruto @ Jun 11 2006, 08:59 PM)
Pokju ah, he is sure a con one. Don't buy from him la. I know him personally, one big mouth liar. Ex-UiTM student who think he knows everything. I know his house, how the place look like. Sure con one. Always want to make money fast.
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Do you have any evidence...?

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Well, i know Pokju but not that close and i do believe about the denggi thing. What can i say is just wait for him to fully recover and wait for his answer. Btw, he wont con rm70 from you so dont worry.

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