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post Dec 25 2007, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Dec 25 2007, 02:03 PM)
so which one is a better choice? OCZ SLI 4gb or patroit?
If you ask me, the OCZ sli is better because it's proven to be stable at 1066MHz @ 5-4-4-15 @ 2.2Volts while there's no proof that the Patriot can be stable at 1066MHz.

Offcourse the real winner is OCZ ReaperX. But then, the price differ so much, where the OCZ ReaperX is RM2XX more than the Patriot EP & OCZ SLi. sweat.gif

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post Dec 31 2007, 10:37 AM

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4GB DDR2 ram fever is in town. laugh.gif
Later you'll see many will post their results of overclocking their newly purchased 4GB DDR2 rams. laugh.gif
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post Jan 1 2008, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Jan 1 2008, 09:53 PM)
2x 2GB sticks?... doh.gif
Anything wrong with that?
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post Jan 2 2008, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Jan 1 2008, 10:48 PM)
just wondering 1GB x 4 OC better or 2GB x 2 ...
That depends on the chipset.
However, do take note that the more sticks of ram you use at a time, the more stress you give to your motherboard. smile.gif
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post Jan 2 2008, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 2 2008, 06:52 PM)
Older ones might not be a guarantee though.
The older one is the one that can outperform the present models.
Since the older one uses Micron Fatbody chips.
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post Jan 3 2008, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jan 2 2008, 08:58 PM)
Huh? After the best D9, Fatbody still legend?
Yerp.
From what i can see is that Fatbody can go a bit higher than the best we can see on D9GMH/D9GKX/D9GCT.
However, it has one big problem which is high voltage & high heat.

PS: Fatbody is also in Micron D9 family.
More information on Micron D9 chipsets:
http://ramlist.ath.cx/

QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jan 2 2008, 10:12 PM)
Interesting but never had the opportunity to try it out.
Yeah, it's a pity not a lot of us has the opportunity to test it by ourselves.

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post Jan 9 2008, 04:34 PM

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At last, i found a Micron Fatbody. laugh.gif
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/608023

Sadly, that's a 512MB only. sad.gif
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post Jan 18 2008, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jan 18 2008, 01:19 AM)
i use just OCCT. It is pure torture test for cpu and ram together hehehe. You pass that and u can run stable after that.
OCCT doesn't stress the system enough.

If you really want to fully test the system stability, use Prime.
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post Jan 18 2008, 02:19 AM

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Yeah.
Prime for testing the processor & memtest [Windows] for testing the ram.

OCCT is a really no-no to fully test the system 100%.

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post Jan 18 2008, 08:55 AM

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Ask them again, are they recommended to test the system fully?
Can they tell you that the OCCT gives more stress than the OCCT?
OCCT doesn't gives more stress than the Prime & Memtest.

Prime gives more stress to the processor and memtest gives more stress to the ram.

Do OCCT again and you'll see that it didn't even use all the rams.
Memtest can do that, thus, giving more stress to the rams itself.

By the way, you seem stressed, have you taken your pills?
The words & sentences in your reply to my post shows you're stressed.

@emilz, SP2004 sama la tu, Prime la jugak. laugh.gif

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post Jan 18 2008, 08:00 PM

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Post edited for good faith. laugh.gif

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post Jan 18 2008, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Jan 18 2008, 10:01 PM)
Hurmmm people rarely use Memtest86+ anymore eh nowadays?
I'm using it! icon_idea.gif
However, i do find that Memtest86+ gives lower stress to the ram compared to Windows Memtest.

This is what i got last time when i use wrong voltage overclocking my ballistix to 1200MHz @ 5-5-5-18:
First i test with Memtest86 - Passed 25 Literations for test #5
Then i use Windows Memtest, got a lot of errors.

Any ideas?
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post Jan 19 2008, 06:50 AM

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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Jan 18 2008, 03:40 PM)
DDR2-800 PC6400 2GBx2 (4GB Kit) = RM 350
Dude, the Team Elite DDR2 PC2-6400 800MHz 4GB Kit [2X2GB] is nowhere to be called as an overclocking ram.
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post Jan 19 2008, 09:34 AM

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I did not say Team Elite is not for overclockers.
I'm talking about the Team Elite 2X2GB, not the 2X1GB.

Please read my sentences properly before you make a fool out of yourselves.

The Team Elite 2X1GB is indeed a good overclockers, but not the 2X2GB.
Buy the 2X2GB kit and test for yourself.
From there you'll know what i'm talking about.
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post Jan 19 2008, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jan 19 2008, 10:03 AM)
anyway,i tested G-Skill 2x2GB kit,p00r overclocker i must say,i just managed to get 1150MHz the highest,and the ram is quite hot (passively cooled)
That's good already what?
Anyway, i've managed to overclock my OCZ SLi Ready Edition DDR2 PC6400 800MHz 4GB Kit [2X2GB] to 1066MHz @ 5-4-4-15 @ 2.15Volts with both my EVGA 680i SLi Rev. A1 & DFI Lanparty UT NF680i LT SLi T2R.

Didn't try higher speeds though, afraid of burning my ram. laugh.gif

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post Jan 19 2008, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(skymyxe @ Jan 19 2008, 10:37 AM)
Yeah, and has anyone did with 4 sticks. Wonder how far can they all go?  hmm.gif
Remember, overclocking 4 sticks of ram is even harder than overclocking 2 sticks.

Plus, by using more sticks of ram at a time, you'll have higher tendency of killing either the motherboard or the ram.
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QUOTE(5w33 @ Jan 19 2008, 05:40 PM)
Ohh, so they are using different chipset?
I mean the Team Elite 2x1GB and 2x2GB.
You're selling them yet you dont know about your items?
Duh, go back and study a little on the internet la.
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post Jan 19 2008, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(skymyxe @ Jan 19 2008, 07:55 PM)
Different or same chipset?  hmm.gif
Different, google up and you'll find out that most overclockable chipset is not made for 2GB ram stick.
They're made for 512MB & 1GB ram stick.

Micron D9GMH
Micron D9GKX
Micron D9GCT
ProMOS
Powerchip

All those chipset i've listed up there is not made for 2GB ram sticks, so, the answer is no, Team Elite DDR2 PC2-6400 800MHz 4GB Kit [2X2GB] is not using ProMOS.
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post Jan 20 2008, 03:09 AM

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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jan 20 2008, 12:01 AM)
so the assumption of not having any one of those chips on 2Gb sticks is highly doubtful.
Doubt all you want.
If you want to take a dare test, buy all the 4GB DDR2 PC2-6400 800MHz [2X2GB] and see if you can find Micron D9GMH/D9GCT/D9GKX/ProMOS on 2GB Sticks.

If you win, i'll buy you two units of Intel QX9770 when it's available on the market., if you lose, you'll have to do the same thing.
We can do this through black and white so that none of us can run should if someone loses in the dare test.

Dare enough?

Please, do some readings.
And no, i am NOT assuming, i'm stating the FACTS. facts that i read, facts that i see & facts that i've tested.

QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jan 20 2008, 12:01 AM)
also an example of a 2Gb*2 kit that has a powerchip on it.
Duh!
Powerchip has different types.

What type are they?
Google, you have a PC, keyboard, mouse & internet.

QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jan 20 2008, 12:01 AM)
From what we know, 6 layered PCBs do have high clocks dont they, and most Team rams especially TEam Elite series carry 6-Layered PCBs, regardless whether 2Gb kits or 4Gb kits.
So you're trying to say that Any rams that comes with 6-layered PCBs must have high clocks? ROFLMAO.

Owh god, please read the real reason why people create Brainpower PCB's.
Find the real reason why there's 6 ~ 8 layers of PCB.

Bigger numbers of PCB doesn't mean it's built for overclocking, for example, a 4GB Kit DDR2 PC2-6400 800MHz needs around 2.1~2.2Volts just to run at 800MHz CL4, and this is why they use bigger number of PCB's.

Bigger number of PCB layers is to help distributes the voltage better and to reduce the heat produced by the PCB itself.

Not like a 2GB Kit DDR2 PC2-6400 800MHz [2X1GB], some of them can even do 800MHz CL4 using only stock voltage of 1.8Volts.

QUOTE(skymyxe @ Jan 20 2008, 12:03 AM)
Then it ain't worth buying if the OC ability is reduced compared to the 512MB and 1GB sticks.  sweat.gif
Remember one thing, speed isn't everything.
Ask anyone, bigger size of ram but on stock speed is always better than lower size of ram but on high speed.

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post Jan 20 2008, 01:07 PM

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Post edited for good faith. smile.gif

However, let me just say one thing. a1098113, no, i am not on the wrong side.
Go to the previous pages and read again & again on all of my post.

Owh and another thing, i never said 2GB Stick can't be overclocked.
You can overclock them, but not as good as overclocking 512MB & 1GB Sticks.

About me saying 2GB Sticks can't be overclocked well, yes they are, if they can be overclocked well enough, you'll find at least 1200MHz @ CL4 on them, but no, you won't find that.

Because the best overclocking results for 4GB Kits [2X2GB Sticks] is the Patriot Extreme Performance DDR2 PC2-6400 800MHz CL4 4GB Kit where it goes 1180MHz @ 5-5-5-15.
That's the highest result.

And my own OCZ can only go 1066MHz @ 5-4-4-15 @ 2.15Volts.

Again, i never said 2GB sticks can't be overclocked.
They're only not overclockable as high as most 1GB & 512MB sticks.

Nuff said.

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