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 Samsung caught cheating again!, This time is Note 3 benchmark test

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post Oct 2 2013, 10:25 AM, updated 13y ago

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Samsung cheats Again!

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post Oct 2 2013, 10:31 AM

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haha... scamsung...

but they didn't show any proof which they have???
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post Oct 2 2013, 10:41 AM

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im not a fan of samsung.. but i just wana share what i read this morning..
inb4 yes they cheat in certain way..

"Ia turut dikatakan yang mana, walaupun tidak melakukan sebarang pelarasan, peranti Samsung Galaxy Note 3 masih hadir sebagai lebih pantas apabila dibandingkan dengan LG G2 yang menggunakan cip pemprosesan sama – Snapdragon 800 2.3GHz. Kedua-dua peranti merupakan antara telefon pintar terbaru menjalankan Snapdragon 800, tetapi Galaxy Note 3 dilengkapi dengan memori 3GB RAM berbanding LG G2 hanya 2GB RAM."

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post Oct 2 2013, 10:51 AM

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Phone company so desperate.

Nokia cheat by publishing photo ans video that shot with other cam.

Scamsung cheat by inflating their chip performance.
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post Oct 2 2013, 10:57 AM

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That site is the same site said S4 cheating also.

I don't see it cheating, Samsung correctly open all 4 cores when required, this is something LG never do. LG still run 1 core during benchmark.

Even the site create the app to force Note 3 run 1 core, then end result Note 3 still faster than G2.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Oct 2 2013, 10:57 AM)
That site is the same site said S4 cheating also.

I don't see it cheating, Samsung correctly open all 4 cores when required, this is something LG never do. LG still run 1 core during benchmark.

Even the site create the app to force Note 3 run 1 core, then end result Note 3 still faster than G2.
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is more than opening all 4 cores, they are temporarily overclocks the processor during the process as well. regardless of the cheated score, note 3 is a very functional phone indeed regardless of overclocked or not.
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post Oct 2 2013, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(thatisazam @ Oct 2 2013, 11:07 AM)
is more than opening all 4 cores, they are temporarily overclocks the processor during the process as well. regardless of the cheated score, note 3 is a very functional phone indeed regardless of overclocked or not.
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Ya, benchmark is just a guide, not important. The most important is user experience, how well the device get optimize or not.

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post Oct 2 2013, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(thatisazam @ Oct 2 2013, 11:07 AM)
is more than opening all 4 cores, they are temporarily overclocks the processor during the process as well. regardless of the cheated score, note 3 is a very functional phone indeed regardless of overclocked or not.
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perhaps that explains why some note3 user reporting running the benchmark test the 2nd time yield lower score?

running the benchmark the 1st time, the proc overclock and give higher score, but at the same time overheated. and so running the 2nd time, the proc throttled down due to the overheat from 1st run...

well, just my guess.
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post Oct 2 2013, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Oct 2 2013, 11:09 AM)
Ya, benchmark is just a guide, not important. The most important is user experience, how well the device get optimize or not.
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true... in real life usage, it's hardly noticeable difference in performance. nowadays, i feel these benchmark score is merely for marketing purposes, just to show how powerful their device is to the mass market.
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post Oct 2 2013, 11:17 AM

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Of course open all core when running benchmark.

Must be stupid not to do that.
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Oct 2 2013, 11:11 AM)
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perhaps that explains why some note3 user reporting running the benchmark test the 2nd time yield lower score?

running the benchmark the 1st time, the proc overclock and give higher score, but at the same time overheated. and so running the 2nd time, the proc throttled down due to the overheat from 1st run...

well, just my guess.
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I think is different batch processor issue. I run few times also score similar, those with lower score hardly get higher score unless the phone pretty cool. I face this issue last time in my Galaxy S III where nor-matter how hard I try, the scores always lower than expected where my colleague one, how long the phone being use, still run at expected scores.


QUOTE(ckchan @ Oct 2 2013, 11:14 AM)
true... in real life usage, it's hardly noticeable difference in performance. nowadays, i feel these benchmark score is merely for marketing purposes, just to show how powerful their device is to the mass market.
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Ya, it is.
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post Oct 2 2013, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Oct 2 2013, 11:11 AM)
hmm.gif
perhaps that explains why some note3 user reporting running the benchmark test the 2nd time yield lower score?

running the benchmark the 1st time, the proc overclock and give higher score, but at the same time overheated. and so running the 2nd time, the proc throttled down due to the overheat from 1st run...

well, just my guess.
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exactly. the S800 board must have a failsafe mechanics to prevent undesirable behavior of the processor due to overclocking...but not sure of Exynos since Samsung made it o.o
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post Oct 2 2013, 12:54 PM

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If benchmark score doesn't matter to the end user, then why scamsung have to cheat?

In the end no matter how you mislead the consumer, it is consider wrong. Who knows what else is scamsung lying to its customer?

Just ask yourself would you buy from a dishonest seller in lowyat forum or any shop out there? Why not?
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post Oct 2 2013, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Oct 2 2013, 12:54 PM)
If benchmark score doesn't matter to the end user, then why scamsung have to cheat? 

In the end no matter how you mislead the consumer, it is consider wrong.  Who knows what else is scamsung lying to its customer?

Just ask yourself would you buy from a dishonest seller in lowyat forum or any shop out there?  Why not?
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Again, benchmark means to test how fast a device can go.

If Samsung doesn't fire all cores, then how to test?

I think you don't know what benchmark means.

You're being ridiculous and nonsense.

Stop all this bullshit now.
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post Oct 2 2013, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Oct 2 2013, 10:51 AM)
Phone company so desperate. 

Nokia cheat by publishing photo ans video that shot with other cam.

Scamsung cheat by inflating their chip performance.
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Nokia cheated? Lol , they were just simulating the type of situation that OIS typically work. In the end , when the phone released , did it work as mentioned? Yes. However , it was wrong of them to not include any disclaimer and such , that's why so many people got confused.

Also , Nokia nowadays put disclaimers on every of their promotional videos.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Oct 2 2013, 12:56 PM)
Again, benchmark means to test how fast a device can go.

If Samsung doesn't fire all cores, then how to test?

I think you don't know what benchmark means.

You're being ridiculous and nonsense.

Stop all this bullshit now.
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It's not just a matter of firing all cores,it's the fact that the CPU only ramps up to that clockspeeed when certain benchmark apps are detected. It doesn't ramp up as high when doing other tasks,that why it's called cheating.
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post Oct 2 2013, 01:04 PM

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klo nak tipu pon la pandai skit . bodo btul .
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post Oct 2 2013, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Oct 2 2013, 12:56 PM)
Again, benchmark means to test how fast a device can go.

If Samsung doesn't fire all cores, then how to test?

I think you don't know what benchmark means.

You're being ridiculous and nonsense.

Stop all this bullshit now.
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I don waant to correct you but you certaintly don know whats happening here . Better read the article before saying anything and calling ppl bull shit.
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post Oct 2 2013, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(Racerx @ Oct 2 2013, 01:02 PM)
It's not just a matter of firing all cores,it's the fact that the CPU only ramps up to that clockspeeed when certain benchmark apps are detected. It doesn't ramp up as high when doing other tasks,that why it's called cheating.
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Does it ramp up higher than 2.3GHZ? If its not, what is your problem? Why is it call cheating?

If it ramp up to 3GHZ, then I call it cheating.

Benchmark is to get all cores run at maximum speed.

Nothing wrong with that.

Benchmark mah. Of course benchmark maximum performance la.


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QUOTE(xerox8908 @ Oct 2 2013, 01:04 PM)
I don waant to correct you but you certaintly don know whats happening here . Better read the article before saying anything and calling ppl bull shit.
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You got nothing to correct me. That's why laugh.gif

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