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 Samsung caught cheating again!, This time is Note 3 benchmark test

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post Oct 2 2013, 10:31 AM

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haha... scamsung...

but they didn't show any proof which they have???
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post Oct 2 2013, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(thatisazam @ Oct 2 2013, 11:07 AM)
is more than opening all 4 cores, they are temporarily overclocks the processor during the process as well. regardless of the cheated score, note 3 is a very functional phone indeed regardless of overclocked or not.
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perhaps that explains why some note3 user reporting running the benchmark test the 2nd time yield lower score?

running the benchmark the 1st time, the proc overclock and give higher score, but at the same time overheated. and so running the 2nd time, the proc throttled down due to the overheat from 1st run...

well, just my guess.
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post Oct 2 2013, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Oct 2 2013, 11:09 AM)
Ya, benchmark is just a guide, not important. The most important is user experience, how well the device get optimize or not.
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true... in real life usage, it's hardly noticeable difference in performance. nowadays, i feel these benchmark score is merely for marketing purposes, just to show how powerful their device is to the mass market.
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post Oct 2 2013, 01:42 PM

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The detail "report"

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/gal...es-by-up-to-20/

i have not finish the whole thing yet cos it not really bothers me. but what make them suspicious is as follow

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The smoking gun here is CPU idle speeds, which can be viewed with a system monitor app while using the phone. The above picture shows how differently the CPU treats a benchmarking app from a normal app. Normally, while the Note 3 is idling, three of the four cores shut off to conserve power; the remaining core drops down to a low-power 300MHz mode. However, if you load up just about any popular CPU benchmarking app, the Note 3 CPU locks into 2.3GHz mode, the fastest speed possible, and none of the cores ever shut off. Stopping the CPU from idling shouldn't in and of itself affect the benchmark scores a whole lot, so this was our first sign that something was wrong. Benchmarks exist to measure the performance of a phone during normal usage, and a device should never treat a benchmark app differently than a normal app



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post Oct 2 2013, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Oct 2 2013, 01:48 PM)
Still I don't see huge wrong in running CPU at Max Frequency.

Unless you're running CPU test on GPU like what NVidia did, I don't think running CPU test on CPU with maximum performance is cheating.

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it's about how the test are carried out i would say

when running the test, of course each of the phone to be tested shall be running on the same condition, then only your comparison is fair and square.

i'm not sure about the geekbench. but from my understanding, it's like it test each of the phone not only in peak performance, but also test the phone during idle time, when at this stage the CPU is suppose to shut off 3 of the 4 core. but they claim samsung alter this idle time during these benchmark test and note3 will not stay idle even if it should and thus firing all 4 cores... increasing the overall benchmark score than it should.

and they claim a phone should not behave this way as in normal day to day usage, there will be idle time when 3 of the 4 cores are shut down...

all other phones are are function and tested this way and it is unfair when samsung tweaked note3 to behave otherwise solely for benchmark testing purpose.

this is my understanding la

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post Oct 2 2013, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Oct 2 2013, 01:58 PM)
Its called Antutu/Geekbench. Its not called NormalUsage bench right?  hmm.gif
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haha... i dunno...

like i said, it's about how the phone are tested... they have LG G2, tested in "normal" way whereby in some apps the phone shut down 3 of 4 cores. but they claim samsung never shut down its core... so, it is not a fair comparison already and said samsung cheated cos they tweaked the note3 to behave differently specifically when running benchmark app


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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Oct 2 2013, 02:06 PM)
For me as user, I want more Antutu score. This is a feature. Samsung knows what I wanted.

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well, everyone's needs is different. that's y we have so many different brands and products for us to choose from.

don't like this brand/product, just move on to other which better suits your needs

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