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victorian
post Sep 26 2013, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Sep 26 2013, 05:05 PM)
Trust me, refunding when he has no sort of money now to a few person will be worse.

First few months can refund. After 2-3months time MIA. Like 2 other cases also like this Intune and bruceleestore. laugh.gif
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So you are saying Cyyap shouldn't refund slowly to TS? Ready to go to jail?
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post Sep 26 2013, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Sep 26 2013, 05:00 PM)
Both party should just calm down and settle this here. You guys don't need to drag the police into this, it will only make it worse. Hertz96, try to give cyyap some time to get the money. Worst come to worst if he keeps on insisting that it is not his fault that his supplier scammed him, lodge a police report. I mean a real one, not some empty threats. And Cyyap, its clearly your fault that you got scammed, and you don't have the rights to push the blame to your buyer. You should take responsibility for your misjudgement (If this is not a scam plotted by you). Try to pay them back. You do not want your name to be tarnished forever, do you ?
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Thank you for your support. You also to have to remember, it's 1 month plus already. Haha! I student lah bro. Money doesn't come easily, that's why I abit desperate. Sorry if I'm coming to hard. notworthy.gif
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post Sep 26 2013, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Sep 26 2013, 05:05 PM)
Trust me, refunding when he has no sort of money now to a few person will be worse.

First few months can refund. After 2-3months time MIA. Like 2 other cases also like this Intune and bruceleestore. laugh.gif
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Thank you bro so very much. I really from the bottom of my heart appreciate your support. You have been helping out since post 1. Thank you bro. notworthy.gif
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post Sep 26 2013, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Sep 26 2013, 05:07 PM)
So you are saying Cyyap shouldn't refund slowly to TS? Ready to go to jail?
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He should find cash to refund all one go. I know its hard but what to do.. we all know if this drag's down everyone will not get their money back right? Ask parents for help to refund.. This things have solution and he should put thought into these to help himself.

I believe his parents or frens would kind enough to help him if his story were true that he got conned by his supplier right.

How many people placed order for his N7 Tab, 5 person X rm800 = RM4000. I dont think its hard to ask for help from his parents. Unless he owe like 20-30person. doh.gif
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post Sep 26 2013, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Sep 26 2013, 05:10 PM)
He should find cash to refund all one go. I know its hard but what to do.. we all know if this drag's down everyone will not get their money back right? Ask parents for help to refund.. This things have solution and he should put thought into these to help himself.

I believe his parents or frens would kind enough to help him if his story were true that he got conned by his supplier right.

How many people placed order for his N7 Tab, 5 person X rm800 = RM4000. I dont think its hard to ask for help from his parents. Unless he owe like 20-30person. doh.gif
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Yes. Exactly. That's what I suggested to him too. Borrow from family and pay us back first and later pay them back. He owes 3 of us a refund. RM800 + RM930 + RM930 = RM2660.
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post Sep 26 2013, 05:19 PM

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I'd say;

1) give him a deadline to reply.
2) layout a timeframe for refund.

failure to do so, all 3 go lipot.

case close.

money fly de.
he go in.

dont drop the soap.

victorian
post Sep 26 2013, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(iOnine @ Sep 26 2013, 05:19 PM)
I'd say;

1) give him a deadline to reply.
2) layout a timeframe for refund.

failure to do so, all 3 go lipot.

case close.

money fly de.
he go in.

dont drop the soap.
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post Sep 26 2013, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(Cyyap95 @ Sep 26 2013, 04:24 PM)
I said when you report to police, police take over the case, so he can catch the scammer, and i don't know what you means by i am the one "That's dead".

And another thing is, now i am not sure he refunded or not, no proof for saying yes or no, so i will say let police do the rest,

And guys, if my purpose is to scam, i will just setup some fake identity and keep on running the business until it got end up,
but i close and not taking order when the first batch have problem
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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Sep 26 2013, 04:48 PM)
Clearly u didnt know how police deal with this type of case.

A pay B.
B pay to supplier.
Supplier scam B. Run with the money including B's money.
A report B to the police
B will be the responsible party. Not Supplier.

keyword here is to whom A transfer the money.

No matter what your story whether its true or false.
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this Cyyap95 act like innocent, he think not his fault. Hey budak kecil go ask money from ur parent and refund to the victim, dun play innocent vmad.gif
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post Sep 26 2013, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(Hertz96 @ Sep 26 2013, 05:08 PM)
Thank you for your support. You also to have to remember, it's 1 month plus already. Haha! I student lah bro. Money doesn't come easily, that's why  I abit desperate. Sorry if I'm coming to hard. notworthy.gif
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report police dun waste time, if can let the police kacau him and his family, sure his family wanna settle and will refund the money to u guys asap, this budaK kecik, dun hav money, use customer money to do business, really celaka mad.gif
Now the only thing u can do is alert his family, anyone can get thru to the budak kecik family?
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post Sep 26 2013, 05:54 PM

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I got my reasons why i dont trust Cyyap95. I kept a PM from him earlier this month. I was looking a Nexus 7 as well but i didnt get it from him coz i rather spent more and get from people who had ready stock and i trust.

He claim his supplier is The guy i posted but see my PM, his supplier is Amazon pulak.. doh.gif

So ur supplier get from Amazon also? impossible he dont want earn and you still sell cheap?

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post Sep 26 2013, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Sep 26 2013, 05:54 PM)
I got my reasons why i dont trust Cyyap95. I kept a PM from him earlier this month. I was looking a Nexus 7 as well but i didnt get it from him coz i rather spent more and get from people who had ready stock and i trust.

He claim his supplier is The guy i posted but see my PM, his supplier is Amazon pulak.. doh.gif

So ur supplier get from Amazon also? impossible he dont want earn and you still sell cheap?

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This is my first time ordering through bulk. Next time should buy through seller with ready stock. My mistake! doh.gif
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post Sep 26 2013, 06:34 PM

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I think this is quite easy to settle because we know the link:-

zixian same school as cyyap95
mod apislua_lua know zixian
its easy to find where cyyap95 schooling

I think cyyap95 is pretty much exposed.

It'll be stupid for cyyap95 to runaway now.

If lodge police report, I think cyyap95 will be caught in no time. rclxms.gif
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post Sep 26 2013, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 26 2013, 06:34 PM)
I think this is quite easy to settle because we know the link:-

zixian same school as cyyap95
mod apislua_lua know zixian
its easy to find where cyyap95 schooling

I think cyyap95 is pretty much exposed.

It'll be stupid for cyyap95 to runaway now.

If lodge police report, I think cyyap95 will be caught in no time.  rclxms.gif
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True also. Need to find out what school zixian96 and Cyyap95 schooling in. But I'll give Cyyap95 time till tmrw to think up of a refund plan.
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post Sep 26 2013, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(Hertz96 @ Sep 26 2013, 07:18 PM)
True also. Need to find out what school zixian96 and Cyyap95 schooling in. But I'll give Cyyap95 time till tmrw to think up of a refund plan.
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I've already said, so this means you don't accept that right ?

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post Sep 26 2013, 07:56 PM

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Guys, I offered "Refund" about weeks ago, they just don't accept it
because i can't refund in once, i can to is monthly
i am also student as hertz do,
now the problem is he want me to refund at once, sorry i can't do that, i don't have that amount of money
also i won't be able to borrow, not every parents and family the same.

And guys, stop flaming me, i trying to solve problem in PM from the first day till now,
and the purpose of opening this thread is meaningless

And it's unfair for the thread title calling me scammer
if i going to scam you i won't reply to your pms anymore,
@Hertz96 what you did doesn't help at all, rejected my refund offer at very first time (20 Sept)
and opened this thread, just to tell you don't press a people too hard when he trying to solve the problem

This post has been edited by Cyyap95: Sep 26 2013, 08:00 PM
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post Sep 26 2013, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(Cyyap95 @ Sep 26 2013, 07:56 PM)
Guys, I offered "Refund" about weeks ago, they just don't accept it
because i can't refund in once, i can to is monthly
i am also student as hertz do,
now the problem is he want me to refund at once, sorry i can't do that, i don't have that amount of money
also i won't be able to borrow, not every parents and family the same.

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Hi Yap,

I believe I have offered you an installment plan to resolve this a graceful manner but you have been quiet about it. I tried hard not to push or accuse you in an un-manly manner. Honestly, so far you have been slow in replying PM and revealing much details. Good that you come and defend yourself but it does not change the fact that you failed to fulfill the orders. As I've mentioned earlier, you are leveraging on credit which should bear the liability of such act. To put it in simple way, you tried to do yourself a good business using money not belong to you. If the money belongs to a bank, do you think you can be excused just because you got scammed? Can you ask the bank claim the money from the scammer?
For the same example I quoted to you, let say I introduced my friend to join your bulk, taking his money for it, am I going to ask my friend to claim from you? Obviously I can't.

I've been around for quite a while, which I somewhat can notice the scent of a scam. Too bad, it was unlucky that I fell into your genuinely-looking sale. You did not intend to cheat but you tried a shortcut, in a wrong way. I've checked all your forum interactions before and all seemed to be normal. I did not call you a scammer, either. It's a lesson to learn and responsibility to be taken.

I trust you did not expect this to turn out this way. I have offered you several options, even meeting you personally to discuss on repayment scheme. Not like I want to beat you up for a few hundred bucks. Do yourself a favor and leave no regrets behind.

I'll need to organize our interactions history before commenting further. PM me to talk if you wish.

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post Sep 26 2013, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(Cyyap95 @ Sep 26 2013, 07:56 PM)
Guys, I offered "Refund" about weeks ago, they just don't accept it
because i can't refund in once, i can to is monthly
i am also student as hertz do,
now the problem is he want me to refund at once, sorry i can't do that, i don't have that amount of money
also i won't be able to borrow, not every parents and family the same.

And guys, stop flaming me, i trying to solve problem in PM from the first day till now,
and the purpose of opening this thread is meaningless

And it's unfair for the thread title calling me scammer
if i going to scam you i won't reply to your pms anymore,
@Hertz96 what you did doesn't help at all, rejected my refund offer at very first time (20 Sept)
and opened this thread, just to tell you don't press a people too hard when he trying to solve the problem
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No, you never offered me refund on 20 September 2013. These are the only PMs we exchanged on 20 September 2013. You just said you were gonna refund me but you never said you plan of refund as in full or part by part refund.

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post Sep 26 2013, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(Cyyap95 @ Sep 26 2013, 07:42 PM)
I've already said, so this means you don't accept that right ?
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How about u list out whose money u still owe.. Got black n white here so nth will Be hidden in pm's..

I want to understand how much u owe n why ur parents dont want to help u.. Are u saying u rather get blacklisted in police report..? It will ruin ur future to purchase any property next time so do keep tat in mind and hope it will change ur mind to ask ur parents help..

It may also ruin ur studies scholarship n so on.. Think properly..

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QUOTE(Hertz96 @ Sep 26 2013, 07:18 PM)
True also. Need to find out what school zixian96 and Cyyap95 schooling in. But I'll give Cyyap95 time till tmrw to think up of a refund plan.
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I thought this is very low amount. Something like below RM3000? Gosh. I think once police notified, scammer school is found by link to zixian and apislua_lua mod, his parent will be notified.

I'm sure RM3000 is not big amount to his/her parent.

I think Cyyap95 just want to keep this low profile. That's why he/she hide from her/his parent. hmm.gif


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QUOTE(Cyyap95 @ Sep 26 2013, 07:56 PM)
Guys, I offered "Refund" about weeks ago, they just don't accept it
because i can't refund in once, i can to is monthly
i am also student as hertz do,
now the problem is he want me to refund at once, sorry i can't do that, i don't have that amount of money
also i won't be able to borrow, not every parents and family the same.

And guys, stop flaming me, i trying to solve problem in PM from the first day till now,
and the purpose of opening this thread is meaningless

And it's unfair for the thread title calling me scammer
if i going to scam you i won't reply to your pms anymore,
@Hertz96 what you did doesn't help at all, rejected my refund offer at very first time (20 Sept)
and opened this thread, just to tell you don't press a people too hard when he trying to solve the problem
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UNFAIR to call u a scammer?😳
Dey tambi!😡
U r 100% scammer but cant run away from ur victims dats all we seen here😝
Just full refund to all asap then ur name will clear.
Or go to jail later ur bontot will get sula one by convict there.😁


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