i mean get zixian96 to help u.. he surely know this cyyap95 if not why want to ask him to be co-partner right?

Sorry but what kind of help you need, why don't just ask directly from me ?
I'm not running away, and repeated mentioning will provide cooperate

Since you're here..

How to process their refund. Write up a plan and let ur customers know.

Simple and direct.

zixian96 studies in the same school as Cyyap95, but he says that he's not close to him at all. I asked him whether Cyyap95 has a phone and he said no, he doesn't. Same as what Cyyap95 told me when I asked him for his number. zixian96 said he has no details about him whatsoever and says that they only meet in school.

I've already said that, and i also mentioned the scammer refunded him after i threatening the scammer if he wants trouble
and he said he already refunded them at monday


I already said, if you didn't receive the money, you can file police report, and what's the purpose for asking my IC and address ?
And when police asking for that i will surely cooperate, i already saying this many times,
I can't do anything now, i tried to asking help from police, but it didn't work for me,
and you can do now is getting help from police

Bro, WE DON'T CARE IF THAT GUY SCAMMED YOU OR US! WE BANKED IN THE MONEY TO YOUR ACCOUNT SO YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR MONEY! SO WE WANT THE REFUND FROM YOU OR WHOEVER, WE DON'T CARE! WE JUST WANT OUR MONEY BACK!

1, you saw my balance
2, the seller said he refund, you said no, ok, then make a police report.

you told me you already lodge police report, ok then when police approaching me, i will do anything to cope with

1) I don't care about your balance! Our money was banked in to you, you're responsible for our money. Not him.
2) For what I wanna make police report about him? I deal with you. My money sent to you. You're responsible for it.

I didn't tell you I made a police report. When did I? I said bro, catsper is gonna make one on you this weekend.

This post has been edited by Hertz96: Sep 26 2013, 04:10 PM

I didn't ask you to make police report to him, just report what happen, said you bank in to me,
when they pick up the case, i can provide them what happen, and let them get us refund.

They're not gonna refund us. You have to refund us. When I report to the police that we banked in the money to you, you're the one that's dead! So, it's better if you settle it here.

I said when you report to police, police take over the case, so he can catch the scammer, and i don't know what you means by i am the one "That's dead".

And another thing is, now i am not sure he refunded or not, no proof for saying yes or no, so i will say let police do the rest,

And guys, if my purpose is to scam, i will just setup some fake identity and keep on running the business until it got end up,
but i close and not taking order when the first batch have problem

This post has been edited by Cyyap95: Sep 26 2013, 04:30 PM

People are doing business with you, not your supplier. You are responsible to deliver what have promised. What happened between you and your suppliers has nothing to do with your buyers.

This post has been edited by pastacarbonara: Sep 26 2013, 04:42 PM

Sorry to interfere in this.
Me myself is a small trader too.

Lets make it clear:

TS is CYYAP's Customer
CYYAP is his Supplier's Customer.

TS banked in to CYYAP account.
Hence CYYAP have to service his customer.
TS doesnt know CYYAP's Supplier, even so the SUPPLIER can deny saying received any money from TS.


TS has the right to ask for a refund.
AND NO, the refund shouldnt be from the SUPPLIER.
IT HAS TO BE FROM CYYAP HIMSELF (stop saying SUPPLIER refunded and all, thats all BS. if so, mana record?).
How CYYAP get the money, is non of our business.

TBH, dont drag your Supplier in here.
because TS deal with CYYAP. its a 1-on-1 business agreement.
as he might be "Fictional" supplier created by CYYAP.


if your Supplier is real, you should lodge the police report against him.

if all these 3 people lodge a police report on you (provided with the bank transfer slip etc), the conviction goes to you, not to your Supplier.
even if you 101% cooperate and they couldn't find the Supplier or couldnt solve the case.
who will it ended up to? YOU.


Easy money as the middle man? there's no such thing.
Work hard, get your contacts. Deal directly. X-Stock then only be a trader dude.
any PRESALE sales is all BS Scam (mostly).

Clearly u didnt know how police deal with this type of case.

A pay B.
B pay to supplier.
Supplier scam B. Run with the money including B's money.
A report B to the police
B will be the responsible party. Not Supplier.

keyword here is to whom A transfer the money.

No matter what your story whether its true or false.

Seriously bro, thank you very much for putting some sense into him. Cyyap95 please reply to this awesome bro.

Exactly bro, money should come Cyyap95 itself as we bank in him and have no contact with his supplier. And also, whether he has or doesn't have money to pay us back isn't really our problem as he still have to settle it, one way or another. Thank you bro, for your support.

Thank you bro Apis_LuaLua for your support. All I need now is Cyyap95's reply here. Thank you again bro Apis! Really appreciate it!

Both party should just calm down and settle this here. You guys don't need to drag the police into this, it will only make it worse. Hertz96, try to give cyyap some time to get the money. Worst come to worst if he keeps on insisting that it is not his fault that his supplier scammed him, lodge a police report. I mean a real one, not some empty threats. And Cyyap, its clearly your fault that you got scammed, and you don't have the rights to push the blame to your buyer. You should take responsibility for your misjudgement (If this is not a scam plotted by you). Try to pay them back. You do not want your name to be tarnished forever, do you ?

U my fren are very wrong. Police will be looking for you as well and not to co-op with u but to ask u why u wanna scam.

You're indirectly a scammer now although u dont have the plan to scam but thanks to your supplier, you;re the scammer now.

I have provide you on the 1st page with your suppliers full detail, email, fb, address and you can put your own effort to find him. not Hertz96 or any of your customer. Your supplier have no whatsoever relation to YOUR customer.

Be responsible and if you dont know how these things work, stop doing business as you will bring more trouble to your self.

Your customer = your responsibility.

Your supplier con you = your own problem. Nt your customer problem.

Trust me, refunding when he has no sort of money now to a few person will be worse.

First few months can refund. After 2-3months time MIA. Like 2 other cases also like this Intune and bruceleestore.