Forumer you are complaining against: Cyyap95

Item being sold/bought: Bulk Order for Google Nexus 7 2013

Original thread link: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2934806&hl=

Date of transaction: 24 August 2013

Details of the complaint :
24 August 2013 - Cyyap95 decided to start a thread for Google Nexus 7 2013 Bulk Order with a discounted price of RM710 for the person who confirms the deal. I PMed him and asked whether I could get the same deal as someone else already got it. He said if I bank in by the end of the day I could get it for RM760. I said I can only bank in the following Tuesday and he said okay Deal and provided me with his bank details.

25 August 2013 - He PMed me to inform that his partner and him have decided to make it a 4 person deal by offering the 16GB - RM800 and 32GB - RM930 but for only 4 person and the deal also consists free shipping to my address and International Priority Shipping for it to arrive in 7 days. I agreed to get the 16GB unit and said that I was gonna bank in to him the next day.

26 August 2013 - I PMed him in the afternoon to inform him that I have banked in and also provided him with my address.

27 August - 2 September 2013 - I kept on pestering him to force the others to pay fast and for him to submit his order faster.

3 September 2013 - Seller PMed me with screenshot of Amazon Checkout Invoice for two 16GB units and 32GB units and a delivery date of 13 - 16 September 2013.

11 September 2013 - I PMed seller to ask whether he will be receiving the goods first or will it directly be sent to me and he said that supplier haven't receive the shipment from Amazon and not to worry as items will arrive this week for sure. (I thought he and his partner, why suddenly supplier?!?!)

14 September 2013 - I PMed him again to ask what the status of my tab and he said, "I think something wrong...please give me some time to contact my supplier ". I said okay fine, but please PM me fast as you promised the tab would arrive this week.

15 - 17 September 2013 - I kept on PM-ing him to know that status of my tab and got no reply at all until 5:03pm with him saying his supplier is ignoring him and that he'll try his best to get hold of him. I replied saying I'll give him till Friday, 19 September 2013.

19 September 2013 - I PMed him about the status of my tab and asked him for his contact number. He replied with his number and also saying that he still can't get hold of his supplier. I tried calling him and I couldn't get through and when I asked him why couldn't I contact you, he said he has no phone and his previous one was broken. So, I asked him for a refund and he said he knows I'm worried and that he has to take responsibility for 3 orders plus his also.

20 September 2013 - He sent me a PM saying he got scammed by his Mudah.com.my supplier and that he is a student and has no money to refund us right now. But he promised to refund my money by doing other sales. I asked him how long approximately and he said no exact time frame as he needs to do some services for his clients and then he'll pay me back and I replied suggesting him to borrow money from his family to pay me back and later preforming his services and paying them back later on.

21 September 2013 - I PMed him asking for his current address and IC number and he replied by asking my bank account details saying that he gonna get the money from the seller and that he will refund to me. I provided him with it.

22 - 23 September 2013 - I PMed him asking for the status without getting any replies at all.

24 September 2013 - He PMed me saying that RM800 has already been banked in to my account. I said okay. I'm 17 and I have no transport so I asked the two other guys on the bulk order to check their account and they said nothing there and that they too have received the same PM saying the refund is already banked in and i never recive any reply even though i send so many PMs until yesterday night. These bros are catsper and balok who also are in the preorder.

25 September 2013 - This is what he replied me after I said that bro catsper is gonna make a police report. "About the transfer, the seller already transferred to you, i contacted the seller, and i told him it wasn't my money, he can take away mine, but refund to you, and then he said he refund to you already at monday night,

Now, you guys rushing me, blaming me, threatening me, ok, i know that's your rights as a buyer,
ok if you guy want, can make up a police report if really didn't received the refund, and it'll be good if they can catch the scammer and refund 3 of you and me too,
I've already tried that, i asked police if they can help me resolving the problem, but the answer is trading on internet without black and white, invoices, receipt, i can't file any report.

If you have the same replied as i got, you can still try other department like SKMM, Consumer Department, TTPM."

I told him right away that it isn't our duty to do so and that we're the ones who handed over our money to you so you have to taking responsibility on this and also asked him for his current address and IC Number. He replied me saying nobody would simply give out their IC Number. But I as buyer who had paid RM800 to ask should deserve the right to have his details right? And then he keeps on saying that the supplier has refunded to us! Does he think we're fools?!?!?!? We checked our bank accounts and nothing there! How can he say already refunded when nothing there!


I'm a kid and don't have much resources. To Mods and Sifus here, what can I do? RM800 is a big thing to me as its money which I saved through my school meal money and I'm not earning. To some that sum might be small, but to me it's awfully big. Someone please HELP!

This post has been edited by Hertz96: Oct 1 2013, 05:58 AM

Tried, nothing shows up! I found this Facebook Page but its says the profile is a "SHE". Have PMed you anyways. Thanks bro. Really appreciate it!

That account is for advertising purposes. He uses that for Facebook Like Business to show people the like proof. I also found the Instagram page but he uses them for Busniess purposes and not personal use. The other one I found is exactly his name but its written as "SHE".

EDIT : HE JUST DEACTIVED THE BUSINESS FACEBOOK ACCOUNT! TRYING TO RUN AWAY I GUESS. LUCKILY I'VE GOT SOME SCREENSHOTS ALREADY!

This post has been edited by Hertz96: Sep 26 2013, 12:16 PM

Well, I'm 17. That still does make me a kid, doesn't it? 18> is adult right?

Dude?!?!? I'm not working lah! I'm a student who saved my school meal money for this Kay! RM800 is never ever a small thing for me! For you it might be but not me! It's not minor and I'm not gonna forget about it! Thank you so much for helping me out!

My parent buy gadgets for me, doesn't mean I'm rich. I'm buying this with my own money which I saved lah. Future Lamborghini Owner means when I work, earn and buy it. Not now. I have so many years to work and buy that.

Thanks for your advice bro. Really appreciate it.

I just called him up and he said he's not with him for this. Cyyap95 was just helping zixian96 for Kindle HD Bulk to find more people to add in the bulk for some commission. He's clean.

zixian96 studies in the same school as Cyyap95, but he says that he's not close to him at all. I asked him whether Cyyap95 has a phone and he said no, he doesn't. Same as what Cyyap95 told me when I asked him for his number. zixian96 said he has no details about him whatsoever and says that they only meet in school.

Bro, WE DON'T CARE IF THAT GUY SCAMMED YOU OR US! WE BANKED IN THE MONEY TO YOUR ACCOUNT SO YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR MONEY! SO WE WANT THE REFUND FROM YOU OR WHOEVER, WE DON'T CARE! WE JUST WANT OUR MONEY BACK!

1) I don't care about your balance! Our money was banked in to you, you're responsible for our money. Not him.
2) For what I wanna make police report about him? I deal with you. My money sent to you. You're responsible for it.

I didn't tell you I made a police report. When did I? I said bro, catsper is gonna make one on you this weekend.

This post has been edited by Hertz96: Sep 26 2013, 04:10 PM

They're not gonna refund us. You have to refund us. When I report to the police that we banked in the money to you, you're the one that's dead! So, it's better if you settle it here.

Seriously bro, thank you very much for putting some sense into him. Cyyap95 please reply to this awesome bro.

Exactly bro, money should come Cyyap95 itself as we bank in him and have no contact with his supplier. And also, whether he has or doesn't have money to pay us back isn't really our problem as he still have to settle it, one way or another. Thank you bro, for your support.

Thank you bro Apis_LuaLua for your support. All I need now is Cyyap95's reply here. Thank you again bro Apis! Really appreciate it!

Thank you for your support. You also to have to remember, it's 1 month plus already. Haha! I student lah bro. Money doesn't come easily, that's why I abit desperate. Sorry if I'm coming to hard.

Thank you bro so very much. I really from the bottom of my heart appreciate your support. You have been helping out since post 1. Thank you bro.

Yes. Exactly. That's what I suggested to him too. Borrow from family and pay us back first and later pay them back. He owes 3 of us a refund. RM800 + RM930 + RM930 = RM2660.

This is my first time ordering through bulk. Next time should buy through seller with ready stock. My mistake!

True also. Need to find out what school zixian96 and Cyyap95 schooling in. But I'll give Cyyap95 time till tmrw to think up of a refund plan.