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 Liverpool Kop Talk 2013, Burung Murai vs Liverpool - 7.45pm Sat

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post Sep 22 2013, 01:20 PM

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Dont wish to dwell too much into the tactical part, as there are many experts here who give many professional opinions already...but personally as i observe the match, it wasnt piss poor but just bad performance...in fact Soton hit us during a corner....

yes we definitely guilty of lacking penetration, and i felt we could perhaps exploit more of the right wing when attacking the kop end...delivery from Sterling was dissapointing...delivery during corner was dissapointing too...even when all our 'powerful' CB went up during corner, the delivery from SG and Hendo is pain in the ass....to say the least

The pairing of Lucas and SG in the middle, hardly protects the back four...Soton was having a field day cutting thru the middle...we protect our flanks better in last night match, but cant say the same for the centre...i tot henderson work himself into the team, his cover on the right flanks frustrate the Saints...so much that Saints attack was concentrated on left flank...

Anyway, eventho I dont wish for this, but the injury to Coutinho could be a blessing, as i felt we became more and more reliant on Coutinho...kinda tired that we alwayz need to rely on 'key' players...


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post Sep 22 2013, 01:27 PM

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eh, i thought last season, our stats was impressive like 20+ shot... does this season still the same?
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post Sep 22 2013, 01:33 PM

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Where is rodgers fault actually?There are so many injuries and the whole team played poorly including gerrard lucas.Only person who played ok was mignolet.

I hope some people understand now why we should stop putting pressure on the team to win.We are not title contenders.
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post Sep 22 2013, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(normeck @ Sep 22 2013, 01:27 PM)
eh, i thought last season, our stats was impressive like 20+ shot... does this season still the same?
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this season we hardly fires..i remember the villa game..they had like 20 and we had 5.

But with suarez coming back..that will change though..Suarez alone will register 15 shots/game (all off-target of coz tongue.gif ).
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post Sep 22 2013, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 22 2013, 11:06 AM)
A very good analysis bro. We shouldn't have that inferior attitude in Anfield. That strategy and mentality was all wrong.
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I believe as footballers our line up is capable. Its wut in their mind. The believe is not yet there.
Soton n Swansea had more drive all 90 minutes. Most lower teams are like that because it all they have. Dun look down on the next league fixtures as easy. Crystal Palace n all.
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post Sep 22 2013, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Sep 22 2013, 12:31 PM)
This post deserves a salute. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

At this moment. At this juncture.
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he is correct.

most team also will suffer those kind of difficult scenario ...

fergie use carrick as CB before and was beaten 3-0 by fulham ...

wenger also deploy toure as RB before when his team also massively hit by injury.

i think BR start to miss carragher which can play in any position of the defence.
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post Sep 22 2013, 01:58 PM

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we do need reformat in the midfield... too much average player in the department.. hendo,lucas,allen a bunch of crap who offer nothing than a carrier,, even gerrard fall to that category but dont want to direspect him.. they are the reason we always lose the 2nd half game in all these season
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post Sep 22 2013, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Sep 22 2013, 01:33 PM)
Where is rodgers fault actually?There are so many injuries and the whole team played poorly including gerrard lucas.Only person who played ok was mignolet.

I hope some people understand now why we should stop putting pressure on the team to win. We are not title contenders.
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Really? So its the player fault now?
Lets look at Arsenal, they have injury spree, but see how Wenger deal with it.

We have no depth for the squad, its entirely back to the manager responsibilities.

Oh its like my friend said to me yesterday, finally Liverpool is back to the original Liverpool. laugh.gif

I have no idea whats with yesterday formation and line-up, its like testing a new line-up. If he's really to try, try it on cup match ffs.


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post Sep 22 2013, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Sep 22 2013, 01:58 PM)
we do need reformat in the midfield... too much average player in the department.. hendo,lucas,allen a bunch of crap who offer nothing than a carrier,, even gerrard fall to that category but dont want to direspect him.. they are the reason we always lose the 2nd half game in all these season
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The problem is not average players. The problem is getting the average players to perform at their maximum level. I don't think neither Lucas nor Gerrard have performed anywhere near their optimal level. It may due to them having played one too many games or perhaps the partnership is just not working right. It can be a number of reasons. But BR needs to find out how to get the most out of his players.
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post Sep 22 2013, 02:22 PM

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yep hfi.. and to add another, maybe they were under BR instructions....?
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QUOTE(normeck @ Sep 22 2013, 02:22 PM)
yep hfi.. and to add another, maybe they were under BR instructions....?
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Yeah that too. But they do look lethargic, especially in the 2nd half. I've read that BR purposely set up the midfield somewhat deep in the past few games but i can't recall the exact reason why.
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post Sep 22 2013, 02:41 PM

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Outplayed at Ainfield. BR's golden boy Sterling was poor. Should have sent him on loan instead of Borini



#BRout
#Rafa in
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post Sep 22 2013, 03:10 PM

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From xabi-mascherano we gone to average lucas-old gerrard
we need wanyama player type,midfield destroyer
See how good arsenal with flamini is
i dont get it when we trade raul meireles for hendo
our midfield is soft as las season MU midfield
lucas was soo average,cant beat paulinho and sandro in NT.

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post Sep 22 2013, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(bitebug @ Sep 22 2013, 03:41 PM)
Outplayed at Ainfield. BR's golden boy Sterling was poor. Should have sent him on loan instead of Borini
#BRout
#Rafa in
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Sure hope it's only said in a jest.

It's is more than ever at the moment, now after this defeat, Rodgers needs fans understanding & absolute support & encouragement. It is thru trials we learn shortcomings & work around it

#supportRodgers
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post Sep 22 2013, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 22 2013, 08:58 AM)
It's one of those days we show too much respect for a Soton team. They choose to be adventurous and we choose to be cautious. They played really well. Hope they can do the damage to our rivals now while we focus on ourselves.

I sense that only an emphatic win against Black Cats will satisfy all of us.
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At home, and playing cautious against midtable team?
If so mentality is not right, I already questioned the mentality issue on last game.

Sunderland is the only 1 team still with winless for the EPL after 5 games.
Playing cautious again on next match?
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post Sep 22 2013, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 22 2013, 11:06 AM)
A very good analysis bro. We shouldn't have that inferior attitude in Anfield. That strategy and mentality was all wrong.
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The mentality already wrong in the last match against Swansea, particular after scoreline became 2-2.

Mentality approaching a match is very important as well, you want the team and player has winning mentality all the time,
instead of saying word in the interview can become the title contender but not showing on the pitch performance.

Hunger, urgency are something that missing at the moment.

I wonder if there is issue on fitness problem, previously 45 min team, lately, show lack of energy in display, less closing down opponent fast, lack of passing accuracy, very little off the ball running around.
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Sep 22 2013, 03:10 PM)
Sure hope it's only said in a jest.

It's is more than ever at the moment, now after this defeat, Rodgers needs fans understanding & absolute support & encouragement. It is thru trials we learn shortcomings & work around it

#supportRodgers
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Criticism doesn't mean do not support.
Some criticism is good that expose the weakness of the team that the team, player or manager can improve upon.

Just like fans questioning the 4CB, many have said should be playing Agger at LB and Sakho should be at CB. This clearly make sense and obvious, as Agger is comfortable on the ball as well as can dribble and shoot, while Sakho played way better at CB after Agger being substituted, this already show the starting line-up and position may already a questionable issue.

You can't expect fans to say welldone, and support what the manager has being doing at last match, right?

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post Sep 22 2013, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 22 2013, 04:26 PM)
Criticism doesn't mean do not support.
Some criticism is good that expose the weakness of the team that the team, player or manager can improve upon.

Just like fans questioning the 4CB, many have said should be playing Agger at LB and Sakho should be at CB. This clearly make sense and obvious, as Agger is comfortable on the ball as well as can dribble and shoot, while Sakho played way better at CB after Agger being substituted, this already show the starting line-up and position may already a questionable issue.

You can't expect fans to say welldone, and support what the manager has being doing at last match, right?
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I know, I've been echoing that in my previous post. It's the call for "out" and another to be "in" after 5 matches, in which I replied to bitebug which I shd think and dearly hope said in a jest

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QUOTE(w_lun @ Sep 22 2013, 01:20 PM)
Xabi as deep-lying playmaker with Stevie playing the holding role?  hmm.gif
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I said Stevie is playing deep now to compensate for a Lucas' lack of passing range and consistent form but with Xabi, he'll be freed up. Read it again la

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post Sep 22 2013, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 22 2013, 03:20 PM)
The mentality already wrong in the last match against Swansea, particular after scoreline became 2-2.

Mentality approaching a match is very important as well, you want the team and player has winning mentality all the time,
instead of saying word in the interview can become the title contender but not showing on the pitch performance.

Hunger, urgency are something that missing at the moment.

I wonder if there is issue on fitness problem, previously 45 min team, lately, show lack of energy in display, less closing down opponent fast, lack of passing accuracy, very little off the ball running around.
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Aspas: boss, I sense that the mentality of the team is wrong. They are not fighting hard enough to win
BR: then go out and talk to dailymail about our championship potential. Let them believe. More interviews more coverage. They will buy it into their mind

biggrin.gif poor Mr. Bean. Strategy that backfire, not once but twice. tongue.gif

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