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 Liverpool Kop Talk 2013, Burung Murai vs Liverpool - 7.45pm Sat

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post Sep 21 2013, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 21 2013, 11:30 AM)
no one said we were championship material.
but to always think the team is going to lose? that belongs to the Woy era.
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It's a coping mechanism. If you expect things to turn sour then it's easier to swallow when it happens. If you end up winning, well you just join the party. I'm not the most optimistic person, but i think it's a bit crazy to not give your team a chance to win.
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post Sep 21 2013, 11:49 AM

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In regards to Mata, If he's available at the right price and fond with the idea of coming to LFC, it would be madness to turn him down. He's miles ahead of Coutinho in terms of development. You be getting someone whose productivity has been nothing but quality last couple of seasons and only just entering pinnacle stage of his career.

/coping mechansm engaged
But it's a pipe dream. Will not happen.


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post Sep 21 2013, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Sep 21 2013, 12:27 PM)
Moses has spoken ....
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Here's the deal. If you the manager and you want the players to break into top 4 and win whatever there is to win, how do you mentally prepare for it? I think realistically, a team like ours will need to overachieve to meet this objective. For this to happen, you really need to embed a superior complex into the team. If you set the standard for 4th then coming short of meeting that aim gets you no where. But if you set the bar so high as to finish first then coming of short should in theory put you in top 4 finish.

For some reason, people find this a bit bizarre, and that's probably because we have been underachieving for so long that we've probably adapted an inferior complex. But the manager cannot afford to dwell on it. It doesn't matter if the team isn't good enough. What matters is that he needs them to believe that they are worthy of being in top 4.
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post Sep 21 2013, 01:06 PM

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Everyone should watch this video before tonight's game. At times, it's easy to forget why you love this club so much. This video, at least for me, rekindle that fire.


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post Sep 21 2013, 04:33 PM

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I don't do predictions but I hope he scores the winner.


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post Sep 21 2013, 05:13 PM

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Cmon save the bickering for after the match. Lets show a bit solidarity. If its not for each other, then do it for Aspas.
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post Sep 21 2013, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Sep 21 2013, 05:18 PM)
That's like trying to put off the fire by blowing it.
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post Sep 21 2013, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Sep 21 2013, 05:39 PM)
Our good friend is at it again on the official website.
Doesn't this remind you of downing in his first season?
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It's the new guy syndrome i think. They want to be all endearing but sometimes I think the club's PR likes to spin things. I don't normally pay attention to any of the interviews unless it comes from the manager or the captain.
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post Sep 21 2013, 09:23 PM

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Haha. Aspas starts. Yes!!

It's going to be 3-5-2 by the looks of it.

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post Sep 21 2013, 09:29 PM

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Toure, Agger and Skrtel as the 3 CBs. Sakho and Hendo as wingbacks i think.
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post Sep 21 2013, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 21 2013, 09:33 PM)
3-5-2?

---Sturridge Aspas---------
---------Moses---------------
Sakho-Gerrard-Lucas-Hendo
-----Agger-Sktel-Toure------
----------Mignolet-----------
You mean like this? So crowded. LOL
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Actually that doesn't look balance at all haha. The midfield trio of Lucas, Hendo and Gerrard flanked by Sakho and Moses. And the 2 strikers.
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post Sep 21 2013, 10:53 PM

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The wide attacking players are not getting enough support from the fullbacks. They always ended up getting 2 v 1. I think our best penetration comes centrally from Aspas movement. He's having a good game so far.
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post Sep 21 2013, 11:46 PM

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Was a mistake to take off Aspas. He gave movement in front of the midfield. Now there's hardly any movement anywhere.
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post Sep 22 2013, 12:11 AM

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People are quick to blame Aspas when the chief in midfield, our captain, Stevie Gerrard was woeful. His decision making was terrible. Couldn't control the tempo to save his life.

As expected, the midfield gets overun in the second half. Gerrard's concentration level is questionable the very least and Lucas runs out of steam. Compounded by the absence of an advanced playmaker to link up play as well as the lack of width to stretch Southampton.
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post Sep 22 2013, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(elnino @ Sep 22 2013, 12:38 AM)
Credit to Soton for a wonderful display of football, their spirit and vigor from start till finish is something that our players should emulate.

On a side note, I'm starting to pity Aspas with how the 'fans' are treating him right now. He clearly provided a good support role to Sturridge in the first half(better than what Sterling can and have been doing, at least), pulling defenders and creating spaces for Sturridge to run into, and provided a few good through balls. Gerrard clearly playing worst than Aspas today, but being the black sheep of the club nowadays, he has to take all the brunt for this defeat.
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That's how i saw it too. Aspas did a lot leg work in the first half. Yeah he's built like a teenage boy but his constant movement and pressing kept pressure on Soto. But i think BR wanted some width because we had none from the fullbacks and Moses was isolated without support. I think Aspas was the only player dispensable at that time. There was no way BR would remove either Gerrard or Lucas. One is the captain, the other is the only reliable tackler in midfield. It's a crappy situation.
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post Sep 22 2013, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 22 2013, 12:52 AM)
Anyone that perform badly, should always being substituted or benched, this is manager duty, whether he is the captain or not.

But I would say the team perform badly as a whole apart from Mignolet, Moses, or Sakho (as CB).
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Was too late by then. He can't really put Aspas back in haha.
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post Sep 22 2013, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 22 2013, 12:59 AM)
It's hard to say whether he got it right or wrong as we can really see the threat of Soton's midfield and wingers. However, he did replaced the players who are not performing and try to make amend but obviously it was too late.

Plus, it is unfortunate to see most of our players flat out in this match.

And yes, Mig did well, Moses did well. Sturridge as well, he tried everything and work his socks off but it just wasnt to be.
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I think his tactical decisions needs improving. So far from what i've seen his subs have been mostly reactive. Sterling was brought in due to the lack of width but surely he would have seen that coming. And then he realized Moses got more and more isolated so he brought in Enrique to support him. Finally he brought in Alberto because he realized there was just no link up play ahead of the midfield - so essentially he was trying to undo his first sub lol. So yeah, most of those subs were mere attempts to bandage his wounded team.
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post Sep 22 2013, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Sep 22 2013, 01:58 PM)
we do need reformat in the midfield... too much average player in the department.. hendo,lucas,allen a bunch of crap who offer nothing than a carrier,, even gerrard fall to that category but dont want to direspect him.. they are the reason we always lose the 2nd half game in all these season
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The problem is not average players. The problem is getting the average players to perform at their maximum level. I don't think neither Lucas nor Gerrard have performed anywhere near their optimal level. It may due to them having played one too many games or perhaps the partnership is just not working right. It can be a number of reasons. But BR needs to find out how to get the most out of his players.
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post Sep 22 2013, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(normeck @ Sep 22 2013, 02:22 PM)
yep hfi.. and to add another, maybe they were under BR instructions....?
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Yeah that too. But they do look lethargic, especially in the 2nd half. I've read that BR purposely set up the midfield somewhat deep in the past few games but i can't recall the exact reason why.
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post Sep 22 2013, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 22 2013, 04:01 PM)
In the world today, there are many spoilt b1tchy millionaires sportsmen who put money on top of everything. You cane them, they will bite back and leave. Between Brendan Rodgers and Daniel sturridge plus Luis Suarez, who is the one the fans are desperate to keep?

The superstar players no question. Managing a team is difficult. for example, Jose mourinho in his duel against iker casillas. Player power is very strong these day.
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No need to look far. Some of our own players played their part in ousting Rafa. Maybe that's why BR is afraid to even sub Gerrard, let alone dropping him for much needed rest.

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