1 more thing really let down, the battery... they put 3000mah inside, but the battery still not as good as other...

yeah... few things many are EXPECTING from this Z1 actually
- better screen (including the infamous viewing angle) - although better than Z, but not fixing the viewing angle disappoint alot
- battery life - again though better than Z, but still could be better
- better audio - again though better than Z, people expecting the sony Walkman quality type of audio (One Sony as claimed by sony)
- better camera - and yet again better than Z and so far better than many other smartphone camera, but i guess people are expecting DSLR type of quality

This post has been edited by ckchan: Sep 23 2013, 11:06 AM

If Sony Z1 good in all of this things, what they are going to show in Z2 and so on?
Maybe that time in Z2 they show that their phone able to throw and still no dmg on it or they come out with the glasses for you to wear it so that you can direct communicate without take out the smartphone.
So in future we got smart watch, smart glasses, smart earphone, smart ring, smart necklace, smart shirt, smart pant, smart underwear to work with smartphone plus stupid human.

If z1 camera quality not good as expected, then qx100 is the best choice for pairing with xzu. But there is still no built in flash.

Just check out the comparison photos by NZtechfreak - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446868

My Conclusion:

Outdoor

• Nokia 808 - quite dark and dull, the photo missing light source, overall is not sharp.
• Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - crazy sharp, a bit over sharpen but still under control, color is more warmer from others.
• Samsung Galaxy S4 - Colorless, too bright, whole sky is whiten out. Over exposure.
• Sony Xperia Z1 - I find it look the nicest actually, the color tone is much better than rest, well exposure.

Nokia 808


Samsung Galaxy Note 3


Samsung Galaxy S 4


Sony Xperia Z1


Indoor

• Nokia 808 - Awesome, nothing to complain.
• Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - Quite ok also, but seems this time S4 is much sharpen.
• Samsung Galaxy S4 - Sharp, but color a bit cool.
• Sony Xperia Z1 - Weaknesses of Sony algorithm is out here! bad noise control, check the top left corner, the only show noise here. The worst output.

Nokia 808


Samsung Galaxy Note 3


Samsung Galaxy S 4


Sony Xperia Z1


Summary

• Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - It might not win in all category, but it is the safer among all, no worried snapping in any condition.
• Nokia 808 - It never is my favor since launching, I not talk about the OS, but the camera itself, I know it had crazy great lossless digital zoom but I always find it photo a bit under expose when snap outdoor.
• Samsung Galaxy S 4 - Not my favor also as it always colorless, thanks Samsung fixed it under Note 3.
• Sony Xperia Z1 - As usual, Sony still cannot proper control it auto mode, I believe the tester snap at Auto Superior Mode, and I notice that indoor photo has been push up to ISO 1000, that why noise appear, where others only in between ISO 125 to ISO 160. Z1 is still an awesome camera if you know to manual control handle it, by the way it is the second company out lossless digital zoom. Zoom lover will like it.

Origin file here - https://www.dropbox.com/s/l39au9dc6rvfm3n/Compare.zip

y still compare to 808?
i'd rather see comparison with HTC One

Maybe the user don't have others phone.

No need compare with HTC One, frank said HTC One camera really fail, the color output is the worst I ever seen. It is weird yellowish + over saturation.

thank god finally i find camera comparison for these model
have been googling around but not yet found trustable review
next, waiting for 5s camera comparison

Comparison with 5S was posted not long ago - http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4544/...eria-z1-review/

i dont feel it to be trustable
never mind for all of u, but i dont think its for me
just personal preference

Thanks for that post, I am downloading origin photo and check it out now.

I think it is trustable, all Exif is there.

But, after check around all the photos, I notice ISO is pushing up really high for Note 3 where it is under control for Z1. I don't think Samsung push that high ever base on my experience usage.

Base on previous site user compare, it is opposite where Z1 is pushing higher ISO in dark shoot - and this is what always Sony did in auto mode.

We not sure the user using what mode actually, if the user at eprice using auto mode, then Sony already fix the auto algorithm, else the comparison is unfair if the Z1 is shot under manual mode.

Short Conclusion assuming all is auto mode.

Outdoor Flower
- iPhone 5s seems a bit less expose than others, a bit too dark. Note 3 and Z1 is awesome.

Outdoor City
- I find the Note 3 the best as the whole photo looks bright and great contrast, iPhone 5s the second, last is Z1 as the Grand Theft is not clear as others.

Indoor Dragon Toy
- No doubt Z1 the best. Worst Note 3, it auto push to ISO 1000, hmm, I never seen Samsung phone auto that high.

Indoor Food Court
- iPhone 5s too dark, but well control the light source, all the food photo is clear. Note 3 is blur, Z1 the best.

Outdoor - Night Scene
- Z1 if auto mode really can control at ISO 400, then it is really great. The best, another 2 is too bad to comment.


evilhomura89 Now I know why you feel not trusted also, and eprice is always Sony fans site.

Edit: I just read the user review, it seems the user play manual mode in night shoot, in this case it is really unfair if photo not shoot in same ISO if want play manual mode. I am going to by pass this user review then.

It is obvious the user pick the safer ISO range for Z1 (ISO-400) but pushing over limit for Note 3 (ISO-1000).

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Sep 23 2013, 12:18 PM

ooo... then maybe compare to LG G2 then...

What happen to Lumia 1020 ??

about the battery life, some1 need to turn off the X-Reality to test it properly because the post processing takes quite alot of battery life.

After see so many comparison, I think LG G2 will lost to color, their output is really colorless but damn sharp in details.


Ya, can compare with that superb expensive phone - Lumia 1020.

Lumia 1020 just overpriced. People play android or iOS more than WP

thats why i said its sound untrustable to me

true enough
until they can compete in term of apps, and bigger group of consumer, they shouldn't put the price as par as other flagship.
yes their camera is quite acknowledgeable, but price as Galaxy S4 zoom should be ok.

Yaya! It is not trustable.

woohoo~~ ori stock will be coming this week..