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 Why is Vios no good ? So many bashers

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post Sep 20 2013, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(E34E36E46 @ Sep 20 2013, 12:08 PM)
I won't say Vios is chics magnet, I would venture to say it's in-laws magnet. They will say in their minds: this young man is very frugal (FC), very wise with investments (RV) and dependable (reliable). Very safe to marry their precious daughter to him !  thumbup.gif
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I would think that the guy is a lousy arrogant ah beng ah seng. ...

cause only lousy arrogant ah beng ah seng drive vios. ..

opps forgot ericmaxman says vios is a god car. ...
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post Sep 20 2013, 10:07 PM

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Well, good for Toyota, the have lost a competitor. Can't recommend the Fiesta over the Vios anymore. The price was upgraded, the features downgraded. It is still better, but since the entry level Fiesta now costs as much as the top spec Vios, without offering much more... The Vios J makes more sense (TRD only adds cosmetics anyway).
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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 20 2013, 01:08 PM)
Since u talk about 4 passanger comfort level

Ok, maybe i should make it more clear in my previous post , u won't sit really comfort 4 big adult in VIOS , nor other B-segment car , include my HONDA CITY which i feel a little bigger than VIOS on passanger seat , but it's stil not to the COMFORT level  smile.gif  Wan comfort? go for C-segment at least

I sadly have sat inside a damn vios god car from Malacca to Hatyai. after KL my legs were cramped like crazy,  my body was aching everywhere. ... so I cleverly volunteered to drive the whole way. .. never will I ever use my own money to waste on a sub standard small expensive milo tin with toyota symbol and 4 wheels.  and servicing in toyota service center expensive like hell! god car my arse

VIOS isn't a god car

ericmaxman the vios ambassador says that it is a god car

Normally ppl bash vios is because

Ah Beng Ah Seng
Non-safety car

but when come to reality , ppl do care about

Maintenance
FC
Good Resales Value
Reliable engine
After sales & service

When you have been cheated to buy an expensive sub standard car, you force yourself into denial that the god car vios is actually good. ... reliable antique engine. ... after sales?  yah the samurai sword toyota service center uses to slaughter you,  you also don't know. ...

Those say investment is brainless , just ignore them
Come on , that is reality , u can't agree but u have to accept  smile.gif

if your facts are flawed and biased towards your god car, why should I who is sane and sensible, just blindly agree and accept? 

Since u and me are so active here ,  I wonder what car do u drive or maybe u can list down WHICH CAR can actually offer better after sales & service compared to VIOS?

Already 10++ pages u stil can't answer which car can offer better?  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  Look like u are the one talking cock here  tongue.gif
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post Sep 20 2013, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 20 2013, 01:39 PM)
They may know how to repair/fix the car.
But driving experience, nothing can compare with owners.
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owners like you are
in denial and just bluffing yourselves. ..

vios is a god car? of all the nonsense I ever heard of. ..
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post Sep 20 2013, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Sep 20 2013, 01:57 PM)
I don think VIOS wear & tear part is expensive than other competitor , it's the most cheaper among all the other brand , who ask u done in UMW ?? SC never charge u cheaper , u can always do it at outside workshop with reasonable or cheaper price , my brother honda civic bearing wheel breakdown , honda SC offer RM800++ to fix it  mad.gif  mad.gif  , end up my brother done it at 3rd party workshop and pay RM400++ only , those brainless only go SC to change their expensive part

I'm talking about after warranty , if u are within warranty period , it's FOC
It's not about NVH and RV , it's about reliable , cheaper maintenance , and can't admit that currently Almera and Vios offer the best FC compared to Fiesta , City and other b-segment car , suzuki Swift is the worse i would say since i own it too  rclxub.gif
Then , let list down which car is the best buy within 80k range

FC
Maintenance
Resales Value
Space with big boots
Reliable Engine
Did u know Myvi in Malaysia is worse than export Myvi? Do ur homework pls , don only blame on VIOS , i believe last time kenari have even better spec to export and malaysia citizen all use cheapo spec kerani with higher price tag, that why i say u all stil can't accept the true , u need face with it in reality , all other thing have to re-consider, unless u really have the money and skip the B-Segment car , if wan compare , pls compare APPLE to APPLE , Malaysia car price only , don bring tomyamland , singlashland , taiwanland price , it doesnt work !!
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ho hum... same story, but no substance. ...

boring. ...
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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Sep 20 2013, 02:16 PM)
that's the FACT, no?

god car, no service no repairs forever?

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so you too agree vios is a god car?

I rest my case. .. vios owners are not only ah beng ah seng in denial. . but are fanatics as well.

amen for the god car vios.
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post Sep 20 2013, 10:28 PM

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If a 7 years vios is a god car, what about my house year 1979 datsun 120y?
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QUOTE(joefbi @ Sep 20 2013, 02:50 PM)
why u care about it? did u care about all cars being bash to death this while?
how about proton? did u care? or proton should be bash because of thier past?

dont worry man, toyota make shit car malaysian ppl laso buy. overkilling price ppl also die buy it. no safety features at all ppl also suppork it..dont worry man. it's toyota.
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so many delusional vios owners. ...

All hail god car vios!
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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Sep 20 2013, 03:39 PM)
does it matter?

god car won't spoil, no matter what pricing comes out nobody needs to pay to replace anything.

right?
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ya just slaughter 2 chicken and pray for your god car vios never break down, no need to pump petrol.
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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Sep 20 2013, 10:28 PM)
If a 7 years vios is a god car, what about my house year 1979 datsun 120y?
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1979 must be made by the creator. definitely 1 level above god

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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Sep 20 2013, 10:34 PM)
ya just slaughter 2 chicken and pray for your god car vios never break down,  no need to pump petrol.
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need josstick or not?

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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Sep 20 2013, 10:34 PM)
ya just slaughter 2 chicken and pray for your god car vios never break down,  no need to pump petrol.
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need josstick or not?

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post Sep 20 2013, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(DonMe @ Sep 20 2013, 04:49 PM)
Laughing die me for those who keep saying SC and outside same parts but still cheaper. Most are using OEM parts. Original parts all standard pricing. Only difference is the labour charge. And warranty
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U dun laugh die me la bro , OEM part = OEM part , Original = Original , if u are spare part shop , u can always order original part , sometime Toyota , Honda SC run out of stock , they will get the part from nearest contract spare part shop

Just like u buy camera , is that u buy from Nikon Bukit Bintang = Original
Then those lowyat shop selling NIKON brand = OEM one? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


U buy Honda Oil in SC = Original
U get Honda Vtec oil from spare part shop = OEM Engine oil? doh.gif

Let say the original Bearing brand NTN/KOYO/NACHI or whatever that used in a CAR , mean any other spare part shop selling u the NTN/KOYO/NANCHI bearing = OEM one? Only SC sell u NTN/KOYO/NACHI bearing only is ORIGINAL ?biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Don laugh die me la bro shakehead.gif


If ur car Original absorber is used KYB , mean only SC selling u the KYB absorber is ORIGINAL while other spare part shop sell de KYB = OEM one?

Sometime SC have to rush to settle down their customer car , can't wait HONDA/TOYOTA to send the spare part within few day or a week, they just get from any other nearest contract spare part shop , at least i know TERENGGANU honda SC is working is this way , KL one i not sure , but i believe almost every SC is the same smile.gif Why Peugeot , VW customer have to leave their car maybe a week or 2 month ++ in the SC? Because their spare part is truely import from Germany / France to malaysia.

I tell u la , most of the workshop / spare part shop won't push u to get ORIGINAL part , because earn too less , OEM part can earn more, that why outside keep pushing u to get OEM part rather than Original part , less expensive , customer happy , seller also happy because earn more , both2 win side thumbup.gif

If u dunno anything about spare part field , shut up pls smile.gif

QUOTE(kimsim @ Sep 20 2013, 05:54 PM)
Nobody can control you an service outside, due to in warranty period you may not service outside.
Any happy or issue you cannot claim any cent from the SC at all.
Just take the risk to service outside with 5 yrs warranty.
Once you delay of service or over mileage also void the warranty.

Got advantage to be save more, once got minor engine & gearbox issue you could be pay by own.

That is my concern!
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Pls read back my previous post , i say it only apply to those car that already over warranty period , those within warranty car definitely no need to pay any single $$ , what point u need to repair outside while u stil underwarranty?

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Sep 20 2013, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Sep 20 2013, 10:28 PM)
If a 7 years vios is a god car, what about my house year 1979 datsun 120y?
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Which model?

B110


or B210


or B310

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err.. talking about bearing. our about to be 7 year old vios bearing got quote 600+ or 800+ as well to change a single bearing. problem occured during 5th year having the car. so we took the car outside and change everything. Total damage done, 200-300+. Problem settle. Air cond got problem. went over to SC and check it out. got quote thousand plus stating that need to change some thing. Went out to aircond workshop. Told us the problem is with the valve. change everything. few hundred bucks.

In conclusion, Toyota SC = bullshit. No offence altho you guys state that you have work in that particular SC. Maybe it only applies to that particular SC.

Wanna know which SC...? Google Toyota Service Center Perai, Penang. The main Service Center in Perai. A BIG service center.

OK.. tomoro i will be bringing over the vios for his 140k km service and will ask them check the front left suspension. Making 'ngek ngek' sound. I will see what BULLSHIT they will quote me again. =)

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Sep 20 2013, 10:07 PM)
Well, good for Toyota, the have lost a competitor. Can't recommend the Fiesta over the Vios anymore. The price was upgraded, the features downgraded. It is still better, but since the entry level Fiesta now costs as much as the top spec Vios, without offering much more... The Vios J makes more sense (TRD only adds cosmetics anyway).
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The new Fiesta still have stability control, unlike Vios. I'd recommend Honda City or Jazz over the Fiesta, but not the Vios.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 20 2013, 11:29 PM)
Which model?

B110


or B210


or B310

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This type bro..
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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Sep 21 2013, 01:02 AM)
This type bro..
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1st gen 310. Masok 1st gear, keta undur langgar belakang doh.gif Yang tu kna laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Aaron135LC @ Sep 21 2013, 12:53 AM)
err.. talking about bearing. our about to be 7 year old vios bearing got quote 600+ or 800+ as well to change a single bearing. problem occured during 5th year having the car. so we took the car outside and change everything. Total damage done, 200-300+. Problem settle. Air cond got problem. went over to SC and check it out. got quote thousand plus stating that need to change some thing. Went out to aircond workshop. Told us the problem is with the valve. change everything. few hundred bucks.

In conclusion, Toyota SC = bullshit. No offence altho you guys state that you have work in that particular SC. Maybe it only applies to that particular SC.

Wanna know which SC...? Google Toyota Service Center Perai, Penang. The main Service Center in Perai. A BIG service center.

OK.. tomoro i will be bringing over the vios for his 140k km service and will ask them check the front left suspension. Making 'ngek ngek' sound. I will see what BULLSHIT they will quote me again. =)
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That why so many ppl want to service their car outside rather than SC after warranty period, only change engine oil and some minor checking alone already charge rm30++ labour , I can done in any workshop with labour rm15 only, the charge in sc is totally exp. I save 50% on it

Maybe some ppl will argue they are more professional, that why exp, but it doest apply to whole malaysia SC, some so call "professional" SC foreman isnt that good is some states, KL I have no comment because I never service there b4.

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Sep 21 2013, 08:10 AM
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Sep 19 2013, 08:43 AM)
U mean 2013 KIA Rio 4 speed autobox also rip off too ?
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OMG!!!!! Kia rio also 4 speed autobox.......all these cars 70k to 90k no give 5 speeder. How come????

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