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babienn
post Sep 5 2013, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Sep 5 2013, 09:47 PM)
no my friend. the Margin means the amount of money you used to hold that position.
(Equity)/(the margin in used)*100 = Margin Level %

For example you got USD 100, with lvlrage 1:500, standard 0.01lot (1pip = USD 0.10)

EurUsd @ 1.3171
Required margin to open Standard 0.01lot = USD 2.63

Margin Level = (100-2.63)/2.63*100
=3702.28%
For my broker FxPro
Learn to manage your money unless you always wanted "Margin Call"  thumbup.gif
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But how to calculate Required margin to open Standard 0.01lot = USD 2.63 ?
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post Sep 5 2013, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(babienn @ Sep 5 2013, 10:05 PM)
Big thanks to you!  notworthy.gif

But how to calculate Required margin to open Standard 0.01lot = USD 2.63 ?
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[(BASE) / (Home Currency)] * [units] / [leverage]

Home Currency = USD
Currency Pair = EURUSD
Base = EUR; Quote = USD
Base / Home Currency = EUR/USD = 1.3171
Units = 1000 (0.01lot) [10k units = 0.1lot] [100k units = 1lot]
Leverage = 1:500

Then, margin used:
= (1.3171 * 1000) / 500
= 2.6342 USD
= 2.63 USD

This post has been edited by zDarkForceSz: Sep 5 2013, 11:27 PM
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post Sep 5 2013, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Sep 5 2013, 11:26 PM)
[(BASE) / (Home Currency)] * [units] / [leverage]

Home Currency = USD
Currency Pair = EURUSD
Base = EUR; Quote = USD
Base / Home Currency = EUR/USD = 1.3171
Units = 1000 (0.01lot) [10k units = 0.1lot] [100k units = 1lot]
Leverage = 1:500

Then, margin used:
= (1.3171 * 1000) / 500
= 2.6342 USD
= 2.63 USD
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif that is 100% correct, but do take note that some brokers nowadays used a fixed calculation for the margin requirement ie: margin required = 100,000 / leverage for every standard lot round turn
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post Sep 5 2013, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(sebastian.twz @ Sep 5 2013, 11:36 PM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  that is 100% correct, but do take note that some brokers nowadays used a fixed calculation for the margin requirement ie: margin required = 100,000 / leverage for every standard lot round turn
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We trade often, sometimes agak-agak can know how much is the margin required to open a position.

FxPrimus use that calculation?
I know is more unfair to be calculated that way to maintain the Margin Level.
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post Sep 5 2013, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Sep 5 2013, 11:26 PM)
[(BASE) / (Home Currency)] * [units] / [leverage]

Home Currency = USD
Currency Pair = EURUSD
Base = EUR; Quote = USD
Base / Home Currency = EUR/USD = 1.3171
Units = 1000 (0.01lot) [10k units = 0.1lot] [100k units = 1lot]
Leverage = 1:500

Then, margin used:
= (1.3171 * 1000) / 500
= 2.6342 USD
= 2.63 USD
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Thanks master! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif


QUOTE(sebastian.twz @ Sep 5 2013, 11:36 PM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  that is 100% correct, but do take note that some brokers nowadays used a fixed calculation for the margin requirement ie: margin required = 100,000 / leverage for every standard lot round turn
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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Sep 5 2013, 11:40 PM)
We trade often, sometimes agak-agak can know how much is the margin required to open a position.

FxPrimus use that calculation?
I know is more unfair to be calculated that way to maintain the Margin Level.
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I think so too because my margin is fixed at 5 USD when I open a 0.01 lot trade.
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post Sep 5 2013, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(babienn @ Sep 5 2013, 11:43 PM)
Thanks master!  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
I think so too because my margin is fixed at 5 USD when I open a 0.01 lot trade.
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Which broker are you using?
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post Sep 5 2013, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(babienn @ Sep 5 2013, 11:43 PM)
Thanks master!  notworthy.gif   notworthy.gif   notworthy.gif
I think so too because my margin is fixed at 5 USD when I open a 0.01 lot trade.
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Your leverage is probably 1:200?

As long as you manage your risk, margin shouldnt be too much of an issue

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babienn
post Sep 6 2013, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Sep 5 2013, 11:46 PM)
Which broker are you using?
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QUOTE(sebastian.twz @ Sep 5 2013, 11:52 PM)
Your leverage is probably 1:200?

As long as you manage your risk, margin shouldnt be too much of an issue
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FXPrimus

Err I forgot about my leverage, not sure if it is 1:50 or 1:200
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post Sep 6 2013, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(babienn @ Sep 6 2013, 12:14 AM)
FXPrimus

Err I forgot about my leverage, not sure if it is 1:50 or 1:200
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then is 200 by using the 100,000/leverage calculation.

most active user here using fxprimus.
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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Sep 6 2013, 12:20 AM)
then is 200 by using the 100,000/leverage calculation.

most active user here using fxprimus.
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Ya I think so.

Thank you everyone for the answer! notworthy.gif
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post Sep 6 2013, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(kevler @ Sep 5 2013, 07:18 PM)
nice movement on EU and GJ .

waiting for next major move ..wait and see
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next move ..wait for it ...bull me or bear me .

tip of the day : never ride market trend after news came ...u will miss the `train`
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QUOTE(kevler @ Sep 6 2013, 09:11 AM)
next move ..wait for it ...bull me or bear me .

tip of the day : never ride market trend after news came ...u will miss the `train`
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Miss the train never mind. Don't because miss the train double up your margin become gamble.
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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Sep 6 2013, 09:30 AM)
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Miss the train never mind. Don't because miss the train double up your margin become gamble.
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Miss train nvm..don't take the wrong train haha laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Jeck10 @ Sep 6 2013, 09:39 AM)
Miss train nvm..don't take the wrong train haha  laugh.gif
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hehe for news like NFP. If I want to trade, I will keep my fund all in FxPro Vault (aka safe deposit) then remain the required margin to open 0.1lot biggrin.gif.
Even if lose, I lose that margin only~
Slippage? Don't worry, my fund is inside Safety Vault, FxPro will clear the negative balance of my trading account. HAHA
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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Sep 6 2013, 09:44 AM)
hehe for news like NFP. If I want to trade, I will keep my fund all in FxPro Vault (aka safe deposit) then remain the required margin to open 0.1lot biggrin.gif.
Even if lose, I lose that margin only~
Slippage? Don't worry, my fund is inside Safety Vault, FxPro will clear the negative balance of my trading account. HAHA
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Ah I see..anyway what u mean by slippage? And usually which website u use to watch the news?
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post Sep 6 2013, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Jeck10 @ Sep 6 2013, 10:07 AM)
Ah I see..anyway what u mean by slippage? And usually which website u use to watch the news?
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Normally with ECN/STP broker, when the market with ultra high volatility, the price shoot up/down in a sec.
lets say EurUsd I buy @ 1.3200, TP @ 1.3300, SL @ 1.3100.

NFP movement is about 60-120pips a min
NFP come out with GREEN

EurUsd drop and hit my SL, but because too high volatility,
The price keep on dropping faster, maybe stop @ 1.3090. Slippage, I lose more than I initially plan to lose. another 10pips lose.
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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Sep 6 2013, 10:13 AM)
Normally with ECN/STP broker, when the market with ultra high volatility, the price shoot up/down in a sec.
lets say EurUsd I buy @ 1.3200, TP @ 1.3300, SL @ 1.3100.

NFP movement is about 60-120pips a min
NFP come out with GREEN

EurUsd drop and hit my SL, but because too high volatility,
The price keep on dropping faster, maybe stop @ 1.3090. Slippage, I lose more than I initially plan to lose. another 10pips lose.
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Lucky my train still green color XD

# A trend is your friend till it bends XD
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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Sep 6 2013, 10:13 AM)
Normally with ECN/STP broker, when the market with ultra high volatility, the price shoot up/down in a sec.
lets say EurUsd I buy @ 1.3200, TP @ 1.3300, SL @ 1.3100.

NFP movement is about 60-120pips a min
NFP come out with GREEN

EurUsd drop and hit my SL, but because too high volatility,
The price keep on dropping faster, maybe stop @ 1.3090. Slippage, I lose more than I initially plan to lose. another 10pips lose.
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Can't imagine a 100pips lost..hopefully not gonna happen to me anytime haha.
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QUOTE(Jeck10 @ Sep 6 2013, 10:36 AM)
Can't imagine a 100pips lost..hopefully not gonna happen to me anytime haha.
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then keep yourself out 8.30pm tonight on USD pairs. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Sep 6 2013, 09:30 AM)
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Miss the train never mind. Don't because miss the train double up your margin become gamble.
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and that , we need to learn emotion 101 .. never put additional trade if floating .. it will affect your judgment , just wait for right moment .

trade what you see , not what you think.

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