QUOTE(ciscogirl @ May 26 2006, 01:12 AM)
another story of a paper mcse...
what do you mean by paper MCSE?... 
...Seek An Advice..., What Should I Do?...
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 May 26 2006, 10:19 AM
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May 26 2006, 10:40 AM
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Be patient and gain more experience. There are many better position outside waiting for you. Sooner or later you will leave the company once you have better offer, so don't bother about the pressure you have right now. Consider it as a way to train you up to handle pressure.
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May 26 2006, 11:01 AM
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poor guy, no knowledge and no guidance, umm, how to do? perhaps u should learn by 'mistake'..
but of course, ur boss will scold if u make mistake. What to do.. if u really duno how to do that, u feel the tension then apply elsewhere lo.. let him hire the more experience guy and let the new guy settle it by himself.. |
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May 26 2006, 11:02 AM
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or if u plan to stay here. then u have to open ur mouth and ask, colleague, boss, senior.junior, or even ur relatives/friends for guidance...
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May 26 2006, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ May 24 2006, 02:43 PM) Lyk, I had worked 20 years in IT/Datacom/Telecom world. As far as I can remember, I always have too much to do, too little time to do it and I never know enough. So, what you are facing is highly normal in an IT world. Learn to say no. You are just a pawn. Why the hell you need to act like a big boss and take on all the responsibility?? You have a boss. Do not say yes or no. Just Tai Chi the decision to your boss. If someone ask you to do something, ask the person to talk to your boss first. Just say you are a pawn and you need to follow order. Ask your boss to prioritize the things that you should do. If he/she does not, then, you prioritze your own list. If someone want you to do something fast and drop what you are doing now, tell the person to talk to your boss. Let your boss make the decision. You have a boss. Use it. Let your boss be the bad guy. It is his/her job to make this kind of decision. This is the kind of soft skill that a fresh grad need to learn fast. Dreamer QUOTE(dreamer101 @ May 24 2006, 06:44 PM) Lyk, i always love dreamer101 advice You are not the boss. Do not take on the responsibility of being a boss. You tell your boss that you need a server to try out before implementing something. If your boss say it is okay to try out on the production server, then, you go ahead.. It is not your responsibility then. Let your boss make the tough decision. You can only propose and suggest alternative. It is up to your boss to make the decision. IT IS NOT YOUR JOB!!! Learn how to let your boss make the decision. Dreamer  |
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May 26 2006, 11:15 AM
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In the same shoe here. Follow Dreamer's advice and it will work like a charm. Learn to survive the toughest of situations and then none shall be in your way.
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May 26 2006, 11:16 AM
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lyk, is it this is ur first job?
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May 26 2006, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(casper04 @ May 26 2006, 11:02 AM) or if u plan to stay here. then u have to open ur mouth and ask, colleague, boss, senior.junior, or even ur relatives/friends for guidance... i never zip my mouth... but no one for me to ask... senior based in client side...  ... |
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May 28 2006, 03:46 AM
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heard from my senior yesterday that boss complained about me...
... boss kept bugging my senior and ask why i don't know anything... phoned him about 3 to 4 times although my senior was sick... ...what should i do then?... ... |
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May 28 2006, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(lyk @ May 28 2006, 03:46 AM) heard from my senior yesterday that boss complained about me... Lyk, ... boss kept bugging my senior and ask why i don't know anything... phoned him about 3 to 4 times although my senior was sick... ...what should i do then?... ...Why do you spend more time worry about what people think of you as opposed to spend more time on how to do your job??? For example, if you post a question on this forum, "I do not know X, where can I find information on X and learn about this", someone could have help you. Ditto, there are many web site on Internet that can asnwer questions. But, instead seeking help, you are just venting and whining. How productive this is?? The truth is you do not know anything and so far you are just whining. Dreamer |
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May 28 2006, 10:22 AM
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haha...tat wat very straight forward....dreamer101..
All the best to u lyk....there is no easy life in IT world...me myself also strugling....no choice but to explore ourself.Sure can learn more...@-@ |
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May 30 2006, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ May 28 2006, 09:44 AM) Lyk, ha, do you really think i never search for info through internet rather than posting in this forum?... Why do you spend more time worry about what people think of you as opposed to spend more time on how to do your job??? For example, if you post a question on this forum, "I do not know X, where can I find information on X and learn about this", someone could have help you. Ditto, there are many web site on Internet that can asnwer questions. But, instead seeking help, you are just venting and whining. How productive this is?? The truth is you do not know anything and so far you are just whining. Dreamer ... i spent few days in exploring information through internet... i even posted my question in microsoft forum looking for an answer... before seek for help i will try to look for an answer by myself... not just venting or whinning here... This post has been edited by lyk: May 30 2006, 09:15 AM |
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May 30 2006, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(lyk @ May 30 2006, 09:14 AM) ha, do you really think i never search for info through internet rather than posting in this forum?... I dont believe you didnt ... i spent few days in exploring information through internet... i even posted my question in microsoft forum looking for an answer... before seek for help i will try to look for an answer by myself... not just venting or whinning here...  If you think boss distrust you and you wont get much advancement at this company, then time to plan for a move. Sometimes if the boss dun like you it means he dont like you, no matter what you do. Actually when you start work, you shouldnt look at the salary as it wont get too far out there anyway. You should like at the experience and the future prospect. |
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May 30 2006, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(rexis @ May 30 2006, 09:28 AM) I dont believe you didnt thanks rexis... you had enlightened me up... If you think boss distrust you and you wont get much advancement at this company, then time to plan for a move. Sometimes if the boss dun like you it means he dont like you, no matter what you do. Actually when you start work, you shouldnt look at the salary as it wont get too far out there anyway. You should like at the experience and the future prospect.  ... do you know about Axis Systems Company?... |
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May 30 2006, 10:13 AM
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PROs of staying:
That kinda salary is good, who knows after training they will pay you more. WOW. And pal, your salary now is higher than me, one who has 5 years experience at what I do for a living. So sad lol but at least I enjoy my work. There's a saying: What Does NOT Kill You Will Make You Stronger! So stay on if you can take the pressure but learn to say no at time.  PROs of leaving: Can't take the stress? LEAVE! Put down your feet, march to your superior's office and kindly ask for a short meeting. Tell him honestly how you feel. If you can't cope, say so. Don't be afraid. You are only human. If he understands, he will do something about it. If he doesn't then it's hasta la vista, babeh.  Good luck, pal! |
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May 30 2006, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(Suet @ May 30 2006, 10:13 AM) PROs of staying: my salary wont be revised till the end of the first year i work here... joined in May 2006... salary will be revised on April 2007... That kinda salary is good, who knows after training they will pay you more. WOW. And pal, your salary now is higher than me, one who has 5 years experience at what I do for a living. So sad lol but at least I enjoy my work. There's a saying: What Does NOT Kill You Will Make You Stronger! So stay on if you can take the pressure but learn to say no at time. PROs of leaving: Can't take the stress? LEAVE! Put down your feet, march to your superior's office and kindly ask for a short meeting. Tell him honestly how you feel. If you can't cope, say so. Don't be afraid. You are only human. If he understands, he will do something about it. If he doesn't then it's hasta la vista, babeh. Good luck, pal! ...by the way, no training provided... ... |
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May 30 2006, 04:57 PM
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Hi lyk,
From the msg you posted, i can see you are very frust i know you must be very angry, But in the real world, whenever you go .... you still have to learn yourself there is not really something called training provided nowaday. Even when i was undergrad[industrial training], they also expect me alone to solve everything Stay or Go ? Think ... if you think you are good enough --> go ahead resign and find another good offer How many % of chances you can find another offer that better than current? People paid more and they expect more also. |
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May 30 2006, 05:41 PM
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If u leave, chances are your next place will be giving just as much headache as the current one. Learn to work under tough conditions first
U seem to be one-leg kicking for your IT dept right now. As you're still early in career, this could be advantegeous. Think of the stuff you can put in your resume, it will be of great help when you're ready to move on. |
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May 31 2006, 10:47 AM
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ya, kinda frustrated...
i know one leg kicking also consider good as i can learn a lot of things... the problem is i don even have time to learn... everyone keep on pushing me... one IT staff isn't enough... ...from what i know so far, boss is looking for experience staff... why employ me then?...  ... |
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May 31 2006, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(lyk @ May 31 2006, 10:47 AM) ya, kinda frustrated... Frustrated? Indeed, this is how IT life is, all those technical and mechanical things everybody expect you know. This is very stressful seriously. Imagin you are cracking head to figure out why the damn machine doesn't work, the staff standing beside popping out questions to you every 20 seconds..... or 10 staff surrounded you and each of them asking you to do things while you got 10 more to-do list in your personal queue... or your senior/boss saying something very alien to you and expect you to understand and want you to configure the thing immediately... i know one leg kicking also consider good as i can learn a lot of things... the problem is i don even have time to learn... everyone keep on pushing me... one IT staff isn't enough... ...from what i know so far, boss is looking for experience staff... why employ me then?... ... Seriously la, I think IT job is for superman. IT scope is almost EVERYTHING, you cannot be too specialised in one damn thing and concentrate on it. You must be willing to grab every shit into your brain and FAST. Know what, i am seriously considering finding a kampung land to plant jagung... well, maybe i will head cracking for those pest eating up my jagung then... |
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