QUOTE(awiekupo @ Jul 16 2014, 04:56 PM)
Fully agreed on you on this. My understanding is there are 3 types of lens..
- Entry Lens
- Mid range Len
- Pro Lens
My question is, in the realm of this Sony E-mount topic, is it right to say that a kit lens replacement is normally considered as a mid range lens?
If not, which lens do we consider as mid range or pro lens?
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auw i wouldnt say like that... it will only make it more confusing. to make it worst, there is sometimes u will see 'overpriced useless lens' or 'overrated' or sadly 'underrated' lens~ ....
each lens has its own purpose. i mean, (since E mount has limited range, i will use A mount for example (and i dont wan to throw canikon lens later attract wrong crowd)....
SAL1650 F2.8 vs 18-135F3.5-5.6 lens vs 16-80z F3.5-F4.5
some people need the F2.8, go for the SAL1650.
some people need a better overall range, 18-135 kit lens is very very nice to use. (or the older 16-105)
some people wants something in between the first two... a stop between the two lens, and range in middle of two lens, zeiss quality, grab the 1680 then.
i used three of them extensively... i couldnt even tell which is the best i prefer, i like all three for their 'purposes'. there is no ONE WORD to describe/categorize them...

QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Jul 16 2014, 07:23 PM)
So at the end of the day, the 1670 is in the grey area between kit lens/ not kit lens?
well, kit or not kit, it shouldnt matters. if the lens fit your purpose, its gonna be your kit lens

agreed?
actually we all dont need to argue which lens is categorizes under which group/level or what not. If thats your favorite lens, and it brings the best of your skill... even its rm300, then its your PRO-grade lens, because it brings out your skill.
sidenote: my own opinion, i myself prefer the sel1650 for its compact size(purpose)... the 16-70 would be kinda defeat the purpose of being (mirrorless)small. if your
purpose is range, dont let the size stop you.
QUOTE(Leekarsing @ Jul 16 2014, 09:19 PM)
oh well... a war had ignited after ppl just asking of choosing A6000+SEL1670Z or A7+SEL2870
seriously, 28-70 on FF is a very very very very limited range... i struggled with it
QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Jul 16 2014, 10:20 PM)
Talking to you is like talking to a clown, not gonna spend time arguing with you. I dont have to impress you in anyways, think whatever you like. This also GAS, that also GAS. Sharing the correct information also kena say gearhead.
hey hey hey cooldown cooldown, if you dont put it too serious, it would be a fun discussion. i understand everyone has their point of view, and i notice everyone here are (yes, everyone are and me) trying to shove their idea into each other head. if u fail, just laugh it off... stay cool~