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post Jul 17 2014, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(TZERNG @ Jul 17 2014, 11:46 PM)
which 1 is better if fish eye compare with ECU1 Wide Angle Adapter?
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There's no better or worse. It depends on your usage. I seldom use my ECU, that's why I've sold it. It works out to be around 11mm on APSC which would be around 15-16mm on 350mm format. I have a 17-35mm Minolta on A99, which have the same range, so it's an overlap. I still keep the fisheye because for RM250, there's no other fisheye in the market that can give you autofocus AND f/2.8 at the same time at that price point.

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post Jul 17 2014, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Jul 17 2014, 11:32 PM)
need ur advice on afghan girl. why?
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on personal level, a good portrait also means that you liked how the image is made (composition, color, subject, etc)

as for the afghan girl, why that particular photo? there are millions of girls in afghan, and thousand of photographers there. why that photo? is it because it was the Last Kodakchrome Roll? or because its Steve McCurry work? (all steve portrait looks the same style, sharp piecing eye into the camera)... or because he picked the photo for Geo Nat and Geo Nat uses it as cover and it gotten international attention because its not everyday you get to see photo like this(during 1985?)...... or its just as simple as (my take on the pic when i first saw it. its a good stunning photo,) the girl is pretty in contrast of the dirty broken clothes, the green eye is special, blended well with the BG, and subject is framed with the red clothes. the minimalist of 2 tone, green and red and they paired pretty well. depend on you see it. smile.gif i myself liked it, partly is also that is steve signature style too that i liked sweat.gif
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post Jul 17 2014, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jul 17 2014, 11:50 PM)
There's no better or worse. It depends on your usage. I seldom use my ECU, that's why I've sold it. It works out to be around 11mm on APSC which would be around 15-16mm on 350mm format. I have a 17-35mm Minolta on A99, which have the same range, so it's an overlap. I still keep the fisheye because for RM250, there's no other fisheye in the market that can give you autofocus AND f/2.8 at the same time at that price point.
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i using nex6 ...previous i got a nikon d90 using tokina 11-16 wide angle lens...
i now something like tokina lens in my nex6
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post Jul 17 2014, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Jul 17 2014, 11:42 PM)
it's a new question. My question is why is steve mccurry's afghan girl the most celebrated portrait on earth?
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is it? didnt realized that... sweat.gif

btw, now u said like this, it makes me wonder how to put the word "portrait"... do you think portrait as we ask some girls out and snap snap Taiwanese cute girl style, or snap snap Emma Jones sexy bra and panties photo, or... joe mcnally commercial portraits, or steve's jornalism portraits?

portrait can be in many form and style. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(TZERNG @ Jul 17 2014, 11:55 PM)
i using nex6 ...previous i got a nikon d90 using tokina 11-16 wide angle lens...
i now something like tokina lens in my nex6
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If you're into UWA imagery, consider investing in the SEL 10-18mm f/4. It's very very sharp. Tested it myself.

But if you're on budget, I guess the adapter's all you have for now. Good luck finding one though.
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jul 17 2014, 11:59 PM)
If you're into UWA imagery, consider investing in the SEL 10-18mm f/4. It's very very sharp. Tested it myself.

But if you're on budget, I guess the adapter's all you have for now. Good luck finding one though.
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tat bro... by the way where got shop selling sony lens? thx
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post Jul 18 2014, 12:01 AM

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there is two new unit adapter in my local sony center. one was opened and used by me for 2 hours and put back. its did not meet my min requirement. if money not an issue, go straight for 10-18, its really a lot sharper and can fully use nex6 phase detect feature.

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QUOTE(edpaul @ Jul 17 2014, 11:57 PM)
is it? didnt realized that...  sweat.gif

btw, now u said like this, it makes me wonder how to put the word "portrait"... do you think portrait as we ask some girls out and snap snap Taiwanese cute girl style, or snap snap Emma Jones sexy bra and panties photo, or... joe mcnally commercial portraits, or steve's jornalism portraits?

portrait can be in many form and style.  sweat.gif
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sorry. rephrase. one of the most celebrated but definitely the most recognizable one (photo).

to me, a human portrait is simply when a person is the subject. So yes, pertaining to your questions, taiwan girls, emma stones?, McNally's and McCurry's are portraits.

A better question is what makes them great?

p.s i've started photography not long ago so i'm quite new but very passionate to understand more about photography.

edited (THE MOST recognizable portrait)

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QUOTE(edpaul @ Jul 18 2014, 12:01 AM)
there is two new unit adapter in my local sony center. one was opened and used by me for 2 hours and put back. its did not meet my min requirement. if money not an issue, go straight for 10-18, its really a lot sharper and can fully use nex6 phase detect feature.
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thanks for precious comment i think wil go for 10-18
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post Jul 18 2014, 12:13 AM

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if u like to learn more I got few photog magazine & books if u wanna borrow for free.. just drop by @ my place in PJ.. smile.gif

QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Jul 18 2014, 12:05 AM)
sorry. rephrase. one of the most celebrated but definitely one of the most recognizable one (photo).

to me, a human portrait is simply when a person is the subject. So yes, pertaining to your questions, taiwan girls, emma stones?, McNally's and McCurry's are portraits.

A better question is what makes them great?

p.s i've started photography not long ago so i'm quite new but very passionate to understand more about photography.
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post Jul 18 2014, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(uraki @ Jul 17 2014, 10:18 PM)
Very happening indeed.

I think most of us agree APS-C camera is good enough for professional works,
but clients often prefer professional photographer to use FF camera.

Kindly C&C on works below.  smile.gif

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Star trails in Norikura Kogen (乗鞍高原) by gsuraki, on Flickr
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How to shoot above the star like that? What settings? What requirements? notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Jul 18 2014, 12:13 AM)
if u like to learn more I got few photog magazine & books if u wanna borrow for free.. just drop by @ my place in PJ.. smile.gif
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oh... really? to a stranger? aren't u afraid i'm some sort of boogieman?

but if u don't mind, i can use a few tips
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post Jul 18 2014, 12:19 AM

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Not shot with FF but... not worthless I guess?

user posted imageDSC03978 by bdrc, on Flickr

Why argue in the first place btw? I've seen folks loving both and bringing both to shootings.

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very very long exposure i presume... smile.gif

QUOTE(NightFelix @ Jul 18 2014, 12:16 AM)
How to shoot above the star like that? What settings? What requirements?  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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post Jul 18 2014, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(loon1983 @ Jul 17 2014, 10:18 PM)
com' on, show me ur picture. i know u using A3000, the cheapest aps-c camera
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so what? A3000 cannot produce good picture? ur brain really GeArFrEaK !!!
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post Jul 18 2014, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(bdrc @ Jul 18 2014, 12:19 AM)
Not shot with FF but... not worthless I guess?

user posted imageDSC03978 by bdrc, on Flickr
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nice. i like this photo thumbup.gif
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post Jul 18 2014, 12:21 AM

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dun mind at all.. knowledge are supposed to be shared... today i help u.. one day other ppl help me.. its karma..

anyway, just pm me if need anything ya..

QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Jul 18 2014, 12:18 AM)
oh... really? to a stranger? aren't u afraid i'm some sort of boogieman?

but if u don't mind, i can use a few tips
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post Jul 18 2014, 12:26 AM

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nice bro.. model cute too.. hehehe

QUOTE(bdrc @ Jul 18 2014, 12:19 AM)
Not shot with FF but... not worthless I guess?

user posted imageDSC03978 by bdrc, on Flickr

Why argue in the first place btw? I've seen folks loving both and bringing both to shootings.
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post Jul 18 2014, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Jul 18 2014, 12:05 AM)
sorry. rephrase. one of the most celebrated but definitely the most recognizable one (photo).

to me, a human portrait is simply when a person is the subject. So yes, pertaining to your questions, taiwan girls, emma stones?, McNally's and McCurry's are portraits.

A better question is what makes them great?

p.s i've started photography not long ago so i'm quite new but very passionate to understand more about photography.

edited (THE MOST recognizable portrait)
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wahhhh this very hard to answer la... its something you learn along the way...

for those famous famous photo, its really hard to point out WHY they are good...

basically there is several ways how a photo can be famous....

Some are taken by someone famous, he, has wider exposure to larger circle of people, and spreading starts...

Some are backed by big marketing company that can give better exposure to your work.

Some, are because the photo itself are so good, that it speaks for itself and later make the photographer famous.

and many other ways. so, im sorry i cant really help you out coz i dont know the answer directly to the question.


but if you wan to learn how to improve your own portraits, yea there are many advise online, forum discussion, magazines, books, online albums(flickr, deviant art, etc)... instead of all about portrait, i would suggest "in the eye of the photographer" (or something) by micheal freeman (i think).... i like the way how he explain the composition... the way he see the 'feng sui' or the 'flow' and show in the book easily understand.
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Jul 15 2014, 05:38 PM)
this is how sad the NEX groups has turn into ever since so many gearhead has arised...

sadly but true, that the technological breakthrough like greater ISO are usually reserved and used on higher end bodies (FF)... and of coz its premium price and people who cant afford it will use excuse like, only rich ppl play with it... but the way i remember about photography, its always been the journey of learning to use the balance of F/#, SS, ASA... not comparing which camera is better.... its never ending of comparing, because in 6 month time, another better camera will pop up, those A6000 and A7s will just be another old lousier camera that the gearhead used to praise now shun... then and i will still enjoy using my old first gen nex3 in bali...
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Yea.. agree.. tech keep moving on. photographs are timeless , so with all the ingredients NEX-3 today can still give impactful pics


QUOTE(Slevin Sent @ Jul 17 2014, 07:26 PM)
My girl's bro last year wedding, hire one freaking fella charge RM3k and use FF camera.. all of us wanna kick his a**

VVIP come in, jus stand aside 'hibernate', bride groom walk to stage he took photo from behind, when they go yam seng he MIA... whole night donno take how many (less) photo only  doh.gif

so yeah skill and experience is freaking important as well..

BUT if he freaking take a small CSC to take photo that day.. i think we all kicked his freaking a**
so mayb these kinda fella shd use FF camera for packaging!

Just to proof everyone here hv their own point.. until u meet this kinda photographer zzzzzz
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Yea, I guess the complete photographer is a package of skills, tools, experience, attitude, communication, marketing, physical ability, eye. Sad to hear you happen to get an unbalanced photographer .

QUOTE(lwliam @ Jul 17 2014, 09:32 PM)
Stop bickering kids..

Both FF and APSC have their own uses.
Nat Geo wildlife shooters use APSC to get the gain in reach in the 1.5x crop.
FF is awesome for wide landscapes.
None is the loser here. Only gear heads will bicker like you lot. Show your skills here instead if you wanna make a case for yourself. It'll speak for itself more than words. And please respect non-Chinese readers (myself included).
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I'd agree. FF and APS-C has their own segment and use.


Hmm... if i was allowed to briefly say..

Cannot argue lens.. cause there's equivalent for both FF and APS-C.
Cannot argue on size.. cause A7 just as small as some APS-c bodies.

Really in short.. IMHO... it's whether the photographer wants reach (crop factor you need), Price or DOF and high iso.
Otherwise FF and APS-C, i think it's the same.

Yea..I really think that the complete photographer is a package of skills, tools, experience, attitude, communication, physical ability, eye and creativity; not just a single element.

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