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post May 26 2006, 07:06 PM

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Who cares about Japan...
It's brandname loyalty, one way or another. (i.e., Sony wins!)

The 360 will be a certain major hit IF the Wii is briced bare-bones at 250USD. Even if the Wii is at 200, the 360, with the unannounced price cuts (rumours), would be close to it and have 150+ games and much more powerful hardware when the other 2 launches.

Remember, excluding the Japaneese, the Wii's other demographic is non-gamers besides the ones who play Zelda and Mario. To them, 200 is too steep of a price for a novelty-wannabe-item that you can't show off. (Cue iPod?)

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post May 26 2006, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(X.E.D @ May 26 2006, 07:06 PM)
Who cares about Japan...
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doh.gif doh.gif
if no one cares of japan,then why are ms so desperate to break into their market? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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It's brandname loyalty, one way or another. (i.e., Sony wins!)
brand name loyalty?
doubt it..

its more like because SONY and Nintendo are JAPANESE companies,that the Japanese are more enclined to buy their products.
FYI,the Japs are known to stick with their own products,rather then buying a foreign one

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The 360 will be a certain major hit IF the Wii is briced bare-bones at 250USD. Even if the Wii is at 200, the 360, with the unannounced price cuts (rumours), would be close to it and have 150+ games and much more powerful hardware when the other 2 launches.
you seem to forget what the WII is..(intentional forgetfulness? rolleyes.gif )
Nintendo never went for graphics,they went for gameplay...immersive gameplay..

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Remember, excluding the Japaneese, the Wii's other demographic is non-gamers besides the ones who play Zelda and Mario. To them, 200 is too steep of a price for a novelty-wannabe-item that you can't show off. (Cue iPod?)

the WII is for everyone,la..what are you talking about? doh.gif doh.gif
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post May 27 2006, 10:32 AM

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true japanese are more inclined to buy japanese products. ipod did break that cycle though. i dont see ms doin that. partly why sony can up d pricing for ps3 in japan. it's open price!?! (i.e retailers set their own price) which means sony's confident tht it'll sell out in japan at least.
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post May 28 2006, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ May 26 2006, 08:41 PM)
doh.gif  doh.gif
if no one cares of japan,then why are ms so desperate to break into their market? doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
brand name loyalty?
doubt it..

its more like because SONY and Nintendo are JAPANESE companies,that the Japanese are more enclined to buy their products.
FYI,the Japs are known to stick with their own products,rather then buying a foreign one
you seem to forget what the WII is..(intentional forgetfulness? rolleyes.gif )
Nintendo never went for graphics,they went for gameplay...immersive gameplay..
the WII is for everyone,la..what are you talking about? doh.gif  doh.gif
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If MS cared so much about Japan, they should have done regional launches there first. And rushed DoA4. And Enchanted Arms. And Blue Dragon.

Imagine this: Wii launches at 200. 360 Core cuts to 250 (imaginary)
Now, if you can get next-generation graphics with the ability to play 100+ games, including INNOVATIVE ones like the arcade Geometry Wars, why not shell out 50 more bucks?

The common user will certainly have that mindset or so (Wii ain't worth it) unless Nintendo quickly does extreme advertisements like the iPod did.

Now for the gameplay...
Is swinging your arms around trying to play tennis with Wii Sports, or using a analog joypad playing Rockstar's Table Tennis fun? Gameplay doesn't need to always come from the hardware. Which one "feels" non-gimmicky and normal? It's a GAME. Not motion capture.

The Demographic that bought the DS weren't mostly non-gamers, they were gamers and despite the fact that unorthodox games like Brain Age recieved some applause, non-gamers didn't rush to the DS for it. Now the Wii doesn't have more unorthodox games. It doesn't have those Popcap games people are crazy about, too. And all you get- Zelda, Mario Galaxy, Excite Truck, for 200 bucks, seems destined for poor gamers, not non gamers.

Prediction in Japan this Q4:
PS3- 1-2m shipped, almost sold out. (Give us more of Japaneese Giant Crabs with weak points rolleyes.gif )
Wii- ??? shipped, certain sell out.
360- Sorry, 1000 units? biggrin.gif

USA/EU
PS3- sells, but not totally sold. (600 bucks/ 425 pounds isn't enough to justify price)
Wii- Sold out.
360- Sold out.

Note the people buying the Wii are hardcore gamers. Casual people won't camp at stores.

Sorry to go off topic, but I hate the fact that Malaysians always use selective reading to make posts. And after that, dismiss people's opinions as fanboyish.
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post May 28 2006, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(X.E.D @ May 28 2006, 09:36 AM)
If MS cared so much about Japan, they should have done regional launches there first. And rushed DoA4. And Enchanted Arms. And Blue Dragon.
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they wont want to rush key games,and in the end launch a half assed game-think angel of darkness.

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Imagine this: Wii launches at 200. 360 Core cuts to 250 (imaginary)
Now, if you can get next-generation graphics with the ability to play 100+ games, including INNOVATIVE ones like the arcade Geometry Wars, why not shell out 50 more bucks?
WII is more innovative compared to 360+ps3 put together,IMHO...
not everything is about graphics,btw wink.gif
simple example:NDS's graphcis cant touch the PSP,yet who is doing better? cool.gif

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The common user will certainly have that mindset or so (Wii ain't worth it) unless Nintendo quickly does extreme advertisements like the iPod did.
if your talking of malaysian gamers,im sure we're mostly like that..."what kind of next gen graphics is this???looks like current gen only!" will most likely be the case here...

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Now for the gameplay...
Is swinging your arms around trying to play tennis with Wii Sports, or using a analog joypad playing Rockstar's Table Tennis fun? Gameplay doesn't need to always come from the hardware. Which one "feels" non-gimmicky and normal? It's a GAME. Not motion capture.
theres a reason ARCADES are stil popular wink.gif
most arcade games dont use the conventional controller consoles use...
the WII's controller,IMO,does,to a certain extent bring the joy of the arcades into homes... thumbup.gif

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The Demographic that bought the DS weren't mostly non-gamers, they were gamers and despite the fact that unorthodox games like Brain Age recieved some applause, non-gamers didn't rush to the DS for it. Now the Wii doesn't have more unorthodox games. It doesn't have those Popcap games people are crazy about, too. And all you get- Zelda, Mario Galaxy, Excite Truck, for 200 bucks, seems destined for poor gamers, not non gamers.
AFAIK,the DS never shipped with the games you mentioned in the first place wink.gif
they came out later...so who's to know what will come out for the wii? thumbup.gif
given time,developers would find more ways to play with the WII's controller...

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Prediction in Japan this Q4:
PS3- 1-2m shipped, almost sold out. (Give us more of Japaneese Giant Crabs with weak points rolleyes.gif )
Wii- ??? shipped, certain sell out.
360- Sorry, 1000 units?  biggrin.gif
i doubt the ps3 will be a total sell out-many are still pissed over the price laugh.gif

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USA/EU
PS3- sells, but not totally sold. (600 bucks/ 425 pounds isn't enough to justify price)
Wii- Sold out.
360- Sold out.

Note the people buying the Wii are hardcore gamers. Casual people won't camp at stores.

Sorry to go off topic, but I hate the fact that Malaysians always use selective reading to make posts. And after that, dismiss people's opinions as fanboyish.
i dont know bout that...

This post has been edited by Mgsrulz: May 28 2006, 12:11 PM
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post May 28 2006, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(X.E.D @ May 26 2006, 07:06 PM)
Who cares about Japan...
It's brandname loyalty, one way or another. (i.e., Sony wins!)

The 360 will be a certain major hit IF the Wii is briced bare-bones at 250USD. Even if the Wii is at 200, the 360, with the unannounced price cuts (rumours), would be close to it and have 150+ games and much more powerful hardware when the other 2 launches.

Remember, excluding the Japaneese, the Wii's other demographic is non-gamers besides the ones who play Zelda and Mario. To them, 200 is too steep of a price for a novelty-wannabe-item that you can't show off. (Cue iPod?)
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yeah i agree wif u actually japanese support their own brand like i know few japanese one day he say want to buy notebook at LYP soo i bring him to see ACER he say du want he want japan brand at last he buy FUJITSU that the cost can buy 2 acer notebook doh.gif

soo overall PS3 will hold the position , i heard XBOX 360 will work wif japanese game developer to do more japanese rpg game not liks old XBOX that not much games smile.gif
and another things msoft actually lost $$$$$ for both XBOX bcoz want to fight for japanese market smile.gif

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post Jul 11 2006, 01:06 AM

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Xbox Lacks of Famous Games tittles...this is one of the factor why....Games Like Resident Evil Series ,Final Fantasy series,Devil may cry series,MGS series and more..
of coz their halo really gone gold in the market but it still lacks of famous games tittle
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post Jul 11 2006, 01:19 AM

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veli ol topik...
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post Jul 11 2006, 01:31 AM

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post Jul 11 2006, 11:00 AM

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long time ago .. i think he digged it six feet under .. anyhow, news has it that XBox 360 has gain slight sales in Japan and two of its game titles are in the top 50 chart ... its a start atleast ..
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post Jul 12 2006, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(nightmarej4ck @ Jul 11 2006, 01:06 AM)
Xbox Lacks of Famous Games tittles...this is one of the factor why....Games Like Resident Evil Series ,Final Fantasy series,Devil may cry series,MGS series and more..
of coz their halo really gone gold in the market but it still lacks of famous games tittle
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How does the Xbox lack in game titles? Even if they are behind, it isnt a huge gap. GTA and RE are now cross platform, leaving only Final Fantasy (any new news about SE considering other platforms to release on as well?) and MGS. And how can you dismiss Halo just like that? Its an absolute killer franchise.
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post Jul 12 2006, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(BurgaFlippinMan @ Jul 12 2006, 12:02 AM)
How does the Xbox lack in game titles? Even if they are behind, it isnt a huge gap. GTA and RE are now cross platform, leaving only Final Fantasy (any new news about SE considering other platforms to release on as well?) and MGS. And how can you dismiss Halo just like that? Its an absolute killer franchise.
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to most it is,but to some its a little repetitive... yawn.gif
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post Jul 12 2006, 12:29 PM

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yeah screw those pachinko dating sim train simulation japanese!!!!! playing 'catch me if u can' with peter moore.. like those dc days..
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post Jul 12 2006, 04:38 PM

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the highest 360 can go is only 3990 units..from April17 - April23 2006(Japan)..then drop..then drop..probably the console is not cute enough for japanese hehehe... rclxm9.gif

PGR3 anyone? flex.gif
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QUOTE(cuoreboy @ May 28 2006, 12:21 PM)
yeah i agree wif u actually japanese support their own brand like i know few japanese one day he say want to buy notebook at LYP soo i bring him to see ACER he say du want he want japan brand at last he buy FUJITSU that the cost can buy 2 acer notebook  doh.gif

soo overall PS3 will hold the position , i heard XBOX 360 will work wif japanese game developer to do more japanese rpg game not liks old XBOX that not much games smile.gif
and another things msoft actually lost $$$$$ for both XBOX bcoz want to fight for japanese market smile.gif
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Hello,

Remember Nintendo?? They're japanese company dude. So, i predict the WII will really kick PS3 arse real hard this time round.

MS deserves the pathetic reception there. They never learn their lessons. They need JRPG titles like Blue Dragon and others for Japanese to take interest. There really is no reason to launch the XBOX360 there without proper support. They could have wait until a few major games are ready before pushing it out.

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post Jul 12 2006, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jul 12 2006, 12:26 AM)
to most it is,but to some its a little repetitive... yawn.gif
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I meant in sales. wink.gif Halo's level designs were repetitive no doubt especially indoors but the combat was always varied and excellent. smile.gif Havent played Halo 2 yet though

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post Jul 12 2006, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(BurgaFlippinMan @ Jul 12 2006, 07:23 PM)
I meant in sales. wink.gif Halo's level designs were repetitive no doubt especially indoors but the combat was always varied and excellent. smile.gif Havent played Halo 2 yet though
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post Jul 12 2006, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jul 12 2006, 10:59 PM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif no xbox? whistling.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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post Jul 20 2006, 06:28 PM

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i m planning to buy a console, but my heart is at XB360 atm, i don't really like jap product becoz they always think the world can read their jap rpg. screw that.
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post Jul 21 2006, 08:32 PM

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aa. go ahead and buy 360. if you have more money buy all the three consoles. now. am simpan duit to buy PS3.

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