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SUSPink Spider
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Aug 28 2013, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Aug 28 2013, 10:54 AM) Remain invested as in, don't do anything OR include some form of average down during the period? Please advise Pink. IF u have the ammo and guts of steel, average down But I can safely say, REMAIN INVESTED i.e. do nothing is better than dumping all in a panic This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Aug 28 2013, 10:59 AM
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lunarwolf
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Aug 28 2013, 11:18 AM
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The world population is growing in the past and the most important thing is food. This fund should have a bright future, even economic crumble we still need food right? But data show the other way round... http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...lnumber=MYAMGLA
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SUSyklooi
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Aug 28 2013, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(lunarwolf @ Aug 28 2013, 11:18 AM) The world population is growing in the past and the most important thing is food. This fund should have a bright future, even economic crumble we still need food right? But data show the other way round... http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...lnumber=MYAMGLAi think "climate change" has a more serious impact than this, what do you think? but what has the world really did that has real impact about this till now to tackle this? just think about it
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SUSPink Spider
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Aug 28 2013, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(lunarwolf @ Aug 28 2013, 11:18 AM) The world population is growing in the past and the most important thing is food. This fund should have a bright future, even economic crumble we still need food right? But data show the other way round... http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...lnumber=MYAMGLAat the same time u have crop problems, min wage policy, rising cost of production, rising cost of logistics...all sorta problems
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Kaka23
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Aug 28 2013, 11:56 AM
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Ah.. salary faster come in!!!
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lunarwolf
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Aug 28 2013, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Aug 28 2013, 11:24 AM) i think "climate change" has a more serious impact than this, what do you think? but what has the world really did that has real impact about this till now to tackle this? just think about it QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 28 2013, 11:31 AM) at the same time u have crop problems, min wage policy, rising cost of production, rising cost of logistics...all sorta problems But then on the other way round shouldnt that crop problems/etc causing direct impact to the price of the goods due to shortage and thus push to price up? I know things like sugar, flour, rice are a price control product in malaysia but in some other country they are not. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/archive/news/w...f-1225991126558Maybe inconsistent yield make this fund kind of hard to predict. Or maybe we cant get the yield in just a few days, like rice at least 3 to 4 months needed just to get the product itself. Too much time wasted just to get something which is not so much profitable.
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gark
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Aug 28 2013, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(lunarwolf @ Aug 28 2013, 11:18 AM) The world population is growing in the past and the most important thing is food. This fund should have a bright future, even economic crumble we still need food right? But data show the other way round... http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...lnumber=MYAMGLAThat fund buy a lot of nonsense... IMHO if you want food security better to concentrate on plantations, orchard & farmland. Rather than buying farm equipment, GMO producers, pesticide & fertilizer manufacturers etc etc This post has been edited by gark: Aug 28 2013, 12:29 PM
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s_kates81
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Aug 28 2013, 12:43 PM
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I m in a dilemma right now. For the past few months, I've been doing weekly DCA. But since the markets worldwide are in down slides more and more, is it a better idea to stop DCA and wait for all the blood shed to finish? And once markets start to recover, fire a bazooka to average down in one shot, or start weekly DCA again then?
This post has been edited by s_kates81: Aug 28 2013, 12:44 PM
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Kaka23
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Aug 28 2013, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(s_kates81 @ Aug 28 2013, 01:43 PM) I m in a dilemma right now. For the past few months, I've been doing weekly DCA. But since the markets worldwide are in down slides more and more, is it a better idea to stop DCA and wait for all the blood shed to finish? And once markets start to recover, fire a bazooka to average down in one shot, or start weekly DCA again then? Hard to time the market.. maybe just do monthly DCA rather than weekly with smaller amount.
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SUSyklooi
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Aug 28 2013, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Aug 28 2013, 12:45 PM) Hard to time the market.. maybe just do monthly DCA rather than weekly with smaller amount.  +1 The results of this analysis show that dollar-cost averaging throughout a severe bear market can be a prudent course for long-term investors. In addition, our back-testing of hypothetical scenarios shows that market-timing investors did themselves more harm than sticking to a dollar-cost-averaging strategy, regardless of whether they exhibited good or bad timing by shifting their new investments to cash during a bear market. http://www.capitalgrowthsolutions.com/impr...m-fidelity.html
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gark
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Aug 28 2013, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE(s_kates81 @ Aug 28 2013, 12:43 PM) I m in a dilemma right now. For the past few months, I've been doing weekly DCA. But since the markets worldwide are in down slides more and more, is it a better idea to stop DCA and wait for all the blood shed to finish? And once markets start to recover, fire a bazooka to average down in one shot, or start weekly DCA again then? How accurate can you predict the market...? Market often turn in one go and leave you in the dust before you can fire your bazooka. Buy when the market gives you good valuation, keep your portfolio balanced and have a steady heart as this is for long term investment. This post has been edited by gark: Aug 28 2013, 12:50 PM
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lunarwolf
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Aug 28 2013, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(s_kates81 @ Aug 28 2013, 12:43 PM) I m in a dilemma right now. For the past few months, I've been doing weekly DCA. But since the markets worldwide are in down slides more and more, is it a better idea to stop DCA and wait for all the blood shed to finish? And once markets start to recover, fire a bazooka to average down in one shot, or start weekly DCA again then? Well I do hope the US market heading south till end of september, then I can get a good price on my company share
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s_kates81
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Aug 28 2013, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Aug 28 2013, 11:49 AM) How accurate can you predict the market...? Market often turn in one go and leave you in the dust before you can fire your bazooka. Buy when the market gives you good valuation, keep your portfolio balanced and have a steady heart as this is for long term investment. How do you exactly define a good valuation? There may be an even better valuation if we wait isn't it? Since the overcast is so gloomy. Or you think continuing DCA is a better idea?
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gark
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Aug 28 2013, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(s_kates81 @ Aug 28 2013, 01:06 PM) How do you exactly define a good valuation? There may be an even better valuation if we wait isn't it? Since the overcast is so gloomy. Or you think continuing DCA is a better idea? P/E Ratio, P/E10, P/BV is common valuation methods against average as well.. government securities yield...vs stock yield. Macro economic news etc should be your basis.  No need to rely on all the hokey pokey forecasting...  For example I did tell you to less your holdings in ASEAN region before all these downturn hits right due to government yield rising. This post has been edited by gark: Aug 28 2013, 01:15 PM
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TakoC
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Aug 28 2013, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(s_kates81 @ Aug 28 2013, 12:43 PM) I m in a dilemma right now. For the past few months, I've been doing weekly DCA. But since the markets worldwide are in down slides more and more, is it a better idea to stop DCA and wait for all the blood shed to finish? And once markets start to recover, fire a bazooka to average down in one shot, or start weekly DCA again then? All the scenario you stated are the ideal scenario. So when the blood shed ends, tell me. I'll go ALL IN. I would reckon doing a monthly DCA too. This post has been edited by TakoC: Aug 28 2013, 01:13 PM
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wongmunkeong
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Aug 28 2013, 01:13 PM
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Barista FIRE
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 28 2013, 09:59 AM) 2010 I panic sell But in a hindsight, SHOULD HAVE REMAIN INVESTED.  eh, hindsight not SHD HAVE BOUGHT MORE meh?
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TakoC
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Aug 28 2013, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 28 2013, 01:13 PM) eh, hindsight not SHD HAVE BOUGHT MORE meh?  Sifu Wong, refer post #963
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gark
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Aug 28 2013, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 28 2013, 01:13 PM) eh, hindsight not SHD HAVE BOUGHT MORE meh?  Hindsight is always rosy... not so easy when you are in the thick of it. Investing is 90% emotion. This post has been edited by gark: Aug 28 2013, 01:16 PM
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s_kates81
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Aug 28 2013, 01:20 PM
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For all those advocating monthly DCA, I think weekly DCA is better, coz you average down every week, and in a downward market, it's likely to be more beneficial coz we get lower price every week instead of 1 monthly shot at it.
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SUSyklooi
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Aug 28 2013, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(s_kates81 @ Aug 28 2013, 01:20 PM) For all those advocating monthly DCA, I think weekly DCA is better, coz you average down every week, and in a downward market, it's likely to be more beneficial coz we get lower price every week instead of 1 monthly shot at it. wk 1 RM 0.6 wk 2 RM 0.5 wk 3 RM 0.4 wk 4 RM 0.3 i monthly shot would be RM 0.3....did you suggested the other way round?
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