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Kaka23
post Aug 28 2013, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(s_kates81 @ Aug 28 2013, 02:20 PM)
For all those advocating monthly DCA, I think weekly DCA is better, coz you average down every week, and in a downward market, it's likely to be more beneficial coz we get lower price every week instead of 1 monthly shot at it.
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No right or wrong in doing weekly or monthly, it is a matter of timing how the NAV moves sometimes you see weekly is better and sometimes you see monthly is better. Of course we wont know how the NAV will move from one week to another.

Since this is UT and requires long term, IMHO monthly is fine.
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post Aug 28 2013, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Aug 28 2013, 01:17 PM)
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wk 1  RM 0.6
wk 2  RM 0.5
wk 3  RM 0.4
wk 4  RM 0.3

i monthly shot would be RM 0.3....did you suggested the other way round? hmm.gif
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See below example and decide what's better.

First month

Monthly Example
1st of Jan RM 0.6 Top up 400 RM in one shot and finish for the month

Weekly Example
wk 1 RM 0.6 Top up 100 RM
wk 2 RM 0.5 Top up 100 RM
wk 3 RM 0.4 Top up 100 RM
wk 4 RM 0.3 Top up 100 RM

2nd month

Monthly Example
1st of Feb RM 0.3 Top up 400 RM in one shot and finish for the month


Weekly Example
wk 1 RM 0.3 Top up 100 RM
wk 2 RM 0.2.5 Top up 100 RM
wk 3 RM 0.2 Top up 100 RM
wk 4 RM 0.1 Top up 100 RM
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post Aug 28 2013, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(s_kates81 @ Aug 28 2013, 02:42 PM)
See below example and decide what's better.

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nod.gif oh, i see, different entry points..
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post Aug 28 2013, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(s_kates81 @ Aug 28 2013, 03:42 PM)
See below example and decide what's better.

First month

Monthly Example
1st of Jan  RM 0.6  Top up 400 RM in one shot and finish for the month

Weekly Example
wk 1  RM 0.6    Top up 100 RM
wk 2  RM 0.5    Top up 100 RM
wk 3  RM 0.4    Top up 100 RM
wk 4  RM 0.3    Top up 100 RM

2nd month

Monthly Example
1st of Feb  RM 0.3  Top up 400 RM in one shot and finish for the month
Weekly Example
wk 1  RM 0.3    Top up 100 RM
wk 2  RM 0.2.5  Top up 100 RM
wk 3  RM 0.2      Top up 100 RM
wk 4  RM 0.1    Top up 100 RM
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We will not know wk2, 3 and 4 will continue to go downwards.
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post Aug 28 2013, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Aug 28 2013, 02:13 PM)
We will not know wk2, 3 and 4 will continue to go downwards.
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Yes you are correct. But during these circumstances which we are having at the moment, strong possibility is that it'll go downwards. In normal circumstances, monthly DCA is fine.
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Syria, emerging-market crisis will stop the taper
5:00 AM ET, 08/28/2013 - MarketWatch Databased News

LONDON (MarketWatch) -- The script was all set for the rest of the 2013. Come the autumn, the Federal Reserve would slowly start to unwind the quantitative easing that has been pumping fresh money into the markets. Bond yields would start to slowly rise. The economy might stutter, but it would prove strong enough to take that in its stride -- and slowly monetary policy would begin getting back to normal.

The trouble is, the story is not working out the way it was meant to. Already the threat of an end to QE in the U.S. had started to create a crisis in the emerging markets. Now the threat of military action in Syria will intensify the downward spiral. That is going to spread to Europe next. It is already lapping at the shores of the continent's peripheral countries.

As the turmoil grows worse, it will stop global growth in its tracks. And the net result? The Fed will carry on printing money longer than it planned to. It won't have any other choice.

All through last week, the emerging markets were starting to wobble. India looked to be entering a full-blown financial crisis. The rupee had plunged in value, and stocks were getting hammered. Far from turning into an economic superpower -- as it was supposed to be when the BRICs were all the rage -- it is looking more and more like a basket case. Growth has slowed, inflation is rising, and the government has become hooked on massive deficits. Capital is starting to flee the country.

Brazil was not in much better shape. Last week, its central bank had to throw $60 billion at shoring up the currency after it dropped to a five-year low against the dollar.

The crisis is starting to spread to other major markets as well. Turkey has already been through a political rebellion this year, and now there is economic upheaval as well. The Turkish lira is in free fall, and 10-year bond yields last week jumped above 10%. Indonesian stocks dropped 5% in a single session, and have plunged to 2013 lows. Investors have taken fright, and, after years of piling into emerging markets, are heading for the exit.

Now there is the prospect of military intervention by the U.S. and Britain in the civil war in Syria. The use of chemical weapons leaves the major powers with relatively little choice: if they accept that brutal regimes can gas their own people to stay in power then their use will become widespread.

They will be encouraged by the limited intervention in Libya -- a small air war topped the old regime, and cost little in either money or lives.

The trouble is, it comes at a bad time for the markets. An intervention in Syria will threaten to convulse the Middle East and send oil prices soaring upwards. It will make nervous investors even more skittish. If the Russians insist on backing the Assad regime to the bitter end, it may still have the potential to turn into an even-more-serious conflict than anyone yet reckons on.

So far, so what? Newly developing economies have always been volatile, and after more than a decade of stability and growth were due a selloff. The civil war in Syria has been rumbling on for months now and the end game was always going to be nasty -- and it was always unlikely the West could remain completely uninvolved. No one can claim to be very surprised that either has suddenly blown up.

The trouble is, both the emerging-markets crisis and the Syrian conflict have two big consequences for the rest of the global economy.

The first is that these countries are far more important than they used to be. The world has not seen a genuine crisis in the emerging markets since the Asian financial collapse of the 1990s. They have been on a steady path of development since then.

The result of more than a decade of uninterrupted growth is that they are far wealthier and account for a far greater share of global trade than ever before. Roughly 50% of the world economy is now accounted for by the emerging markets. Back in the 1990s, if growth in those economies collapsed, then its impact might well be contained. Now it threatens to plunge the world back into recession.

The second is that much of the euro zone is now, in effect, an emerging market.

The peripheral nations of the Europe -- Greece, Cyprus, Italy, Spain, Portugal and Ireland -- have many of the same characteristics as nations such as Thailand and Malaysia back in the 1990s. They have huge borrowings in what is in effect a foreign currency -- the euro , over which they have no control. Capital is likely to flee at the first sign of serious trouble. They don't have the ability to print their own currency, or to devalue their way out of trouble.

If the emerging-markets crisis spreads, and if a military intervention in Syria pushes up the price of oil, then the euro zone will be pushed back into recession as well. Very quickly, 70% of more of the global economy could have ground to a halt.

Where does that leave the Fed? In a fix. In reality, the U.S. cannot simply shrug aside an emerging-market crisis or a conflict in the Middle East as a matter of little consequence. Its own growth depends on trade with those nations, and so does the stability of its banking system. With no expansion in those markets, U.S. growth will evaporate, and with it the case for the taper.

The lesson of Japan is that it is a lot easier to start quantitative easing than it is to stop it. The Federal Reserve is about to learn that as well. Over the next few weeks, the "Septaper" will be quietly shelved. It may try to end QE in February or March next year -- but by then, some fresh crisis may have flared up to blow it off course.
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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Aug 28 2013, 08:45 AM)
This is not about bi-lateral agreement but about not depending on greenback to buy oil. If more and more countries stop using USD to buy oil, the world will be less dependent on USD and that spells bad news to USA.
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The oil market is currently priced and traded in USD. Sellers expect USD. The only way currently to not pay USD is to have individual seller/buyer agreements to not transact in USD.

I was referring to your Yuan example as not being representative of a not-USD transaction because the Yuan is still pegged to the USD, so in effect the transaction would still be conducted using the equivalent of USD.

Sure, I understand the point of not using USD for pay for oil. It's a nice concept. At the present time, since there's no open markets for oil, they only way non-USD transactions can happen is via bi-lateral agreements.
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Portfolio diving...
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post Aug 28 2013, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Aug 28 2013, 09:02 PM)
Portfolio diving...
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Side of effect or on-going foreign fund exit and geo-political tension. What can you expect? Calm sea?

MYR against USD touched 3.33XX and against SGD touched 2.60XX
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post Aug 28 2013, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Aug 28 2013, 09:02 PM)
Portfolio diving...
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AmDynamite IRR fell below 5% for the first time sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 28 2013, 10:44 PM)
AmDynamite IRR fell below 5% for the first time sweat.gif
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Ya, 0.8% drop...
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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 28 2013, 10:36 PM)
Side of effect or on-going foreign fund exit and geo-political tension. What can you expect? Calm sea?

MYR against USD touched 3.33XX and against SGD touched 2.60XX
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Heart must be steady, learning to control my heart.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Aug 28 2013, 09:53 PM)
Ya, 0.8% drop...
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IRR at 4%, ROI at 5.8%
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post Aug 28 2013, 10:46 PM

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post Aug 29 2013, 01:24 AM

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Steady. Level 7-8 only I think tongue.gif
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A mix of geopolitical and economic factors continue to send waves of fear across Asian markets, with experts believing that investors would do well to sit on the sidelines for now in view of looming uncertainties.


Fear factor hits Asian markets

URL: http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...ertainties.aspx
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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 29 2013, 09:06 AM)
Recovery day for sure today tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Aug 29 2013, 09:40 AM)
Recovery day for sure today tongue.gif
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currently 10 out of 11 asia mkt watched are "GREEN"...Only Australia is still ~-0.16%

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Aug 29 2013, 02:24 AM)
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Steady. Level 7-8 only I think tongue.gif
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Interesting graph indeed.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Aug 29 2013, 08:50 AM)
currently 10 out of 11 asia mkt watched are "GREEN"...Only Australia is still ~-0.16%
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Guess markets are fed up with bad news now. lol. Green nearly everywhere today including US yesternight

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