two of my clerks holds a master cert. been encouraging them to change scheme almost all the time.

1st step coming, I got the Online Exam on 3.11.2017.

As I predict, there's will be an online exam around this few weeks. This time, I will try harder. This is my 2nd time PTD online Exam I will be seat, hope I can pass to the next step.

True, my past paycheck in private sector is double from what im earn now in gov

good luck

been in the service for quite some time, can't even match my last payscheck still. ahahahahaha

but the job is all good. stressful becos being the focal point for ministries regarding papers. but all in all, good networking gained.

I feel u. Was actually thinking the exact same thing. But joining gov gred 41 definitely not the answer. After scrutizing the reply in this thread from 2016, it’s confirmed the maximum u can get with MBA is around RM3500.. my commitment for car, house and children’s daycare alone already exceeds that range. 😔

Thanks for the clarification.

So many misconceptions and reply based on assumptions here

Hello. Any tips to study for PTD online test?

I dont quite remember, but i once sit for PTD interview after pas the exam.. the interviewer said he like me but think i am not ‘yes boss’ type.. so he advice me to change my attitude if i got to join the service..
Fortunately, it is not mine..

I still working in gov tho just not M..i involve with lot of ptd and i really thankful to god because not let me becoming one of ptd..for us ( my dept) ptd is the most useless post in gov.sorry my ptd friend, but bear my word u are not professional carrier..like doctor, engineer, lawyer and etc

Even food culinair degree also can become ptd..so i am not amaze if our country becoming worst day by day..

In china, half of the their top rank gov officer is an engineer.. we can see how much their country further than us..

This post has been edited by Bold III: Oct 21 2017, 11:09 AM

Seems like many got PTD exam this time..
Few of my friends last time didn't get.. This round got exam..

Last I heard around 80k took the exam. This time over 100k huh???

Yeah, keen to know too..
Asking for friends would be taking on 3 Nov

this is true. same goes to hotel management, music and hospitality graduate too.. meanwhile majority of those who graduate with engineering, applied sciences, physic atom, or computer sciences didn't even stand a chance to attend the exam due to non-discriminatory requirement CGPA above 3.3 (smart guess only, not so sure) to qualify for online test

This post has been edited by sherz88: Oct 21 2017, 01:16 PM

hahaha..if only most people think like you. otherwise, there wouldnt be around 80k - 100k apply for this PTD job alone

Ok bro. Anything that makes you happy. You still had intentions to join though. Hahaha.

I graduated in 1998 bro..that was the time economy, politic, not in a good condition..just grab any opportunity.. i dont even know what is ptd.. that why i said fortunately..

I am sorry if you are ptd.. its not your mistake, in the end end we are just a servant.. but it is gov mistake for not really filter the candidate background..

I give u an example, this guy is literature graduate, but they put him in unit kewangan which will receive the peruntukan, even in october he received a lot of money with an open heart..if you are gov servant, u know our month per year is only about 10 to 11 month..but when the peruntukan is not spend correctly or not finish, the spender will be charged, not him.. because the literature guy know nothing about project or technical..

If you think the DPA or cadet is enough for u to gain knowledge, u just bluffing ur self bro..

This post has been edited by Bold III: Oct 22 2017, 06:54 AM

I'm not saying you are wrong. But times have changed. Nowadays most ptd's have economic or engineering background. Some are even lawyers. Of course you don't have the fiery character from yesteryears coz PTD's have been trained to be yes-man to political masters, which is something that should change.

Back to your question on kewangan related matters, i believe anyone can learn the TI if given time. Even an SPM holder can master the circulars. You don't need to have an accounting or finance degree to follow circular rules. Same goes to logical project management, u dont need an engineering degree to have common sense.

Moving forward, PTD is still an attractive scheme due to the perception that naik pangkat fast and conquer all top post.. However in reality, its not true now and even the pay scale shows that PTD is just one of the many schemes in the government service. Nothing to brag or be proud off.. Once u masuk then you will know the reality. For me, if you have the drive to work hard and can socialize, better to work in private sector.. more prospects and opportunity.

Yerp, i do agree with some of your opinion..for example everybody can learn, but does every body is fast learner?
PTD even only 44, they always have to lead and make a decision..isnt that easy if the put somebody with education background that related to the work?

I really appreciate if you can furnish me,why our gov hire PTD for kewangan matter rather than an accountant? Thats one example.. or PTD in pembangunan.. PTD in undang2.. rather than direct appoint the professional in that area..

Hence the name 'Pegawai Tadbir' and Gred M, means you are mostly doing administrative things. Let the technical part of processing procurement and utilisation been done by Gred W

does ptd gred 44 lead and make decision?

I dont know about that, in my experience, the one that make decision and leading either a committee or task force selalunya pengarah or 54 and above. even those pengarah sometime have to wait either for KSU or Minister to give decision. Mostly their job give idea and execute the decision that have been made..

But, don't know maybe PTD in state have bigger power.

This post has been edited by abdz: Oct 24 2017, 11:48 AM

I also taking exam on 3rd nov,,this is my second exam,,last time fail...any tips to study ?

Some says, just read those policies introduced by najib..
NKRA, 1Malaysia, TN2050 etc.

Don't know if its relevant nowadays...