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post Jun 19 2012, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(5ZL @ Jun 18 2012, 12:58 PM)
from what i have been searching all around the web, the prePAC module varies amongst the INTAN, some not even 2.4km (less) but they put like push up, star jump etc in the mix,, donno lar.. just get ready for all hehehe.. how is MOF doing.. i miss that place so much!
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mof is doin ok. haha. not much development. which dept u from previously?
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post Jun 20 2012, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(5ZL @ Jun 19 2012, 01:12 PM)
I believe i am in Tenno's dept, but different part altogether.. we might have cross path before, who know? LOL


Added on June 19, 2012, 1:16 pm

so it is safe to say that the prePac will be somewhere in early September.. still got time to shed away the excess KG from all the rendangs and lemangs lol
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im not sure tenno which from dept but im from BPK. maybe we might have seen each other. haha.
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post Jun 29 2012, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(Darkcity212 @ Jun 28 2012, 04:26 PM)
not all are like that but mostly are.in order to gain any government projects  u got to have strong relations/connection with them
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first of all Funds are approved by EPU. and then when disbursed, relevant ministries will spend it. if the projek is big, u need to come back to MOf for approval. d process is long and its tough to pony up ur own company to get a kontrak. if u stil intend to get a contract, u need to kowtim with JKR, MOF, own ministry plus various officers in the ministry. if u stil manage to do it, maybe u deserve the contract. haha.

so its pretty tough lar. well, minister approval plus political links are a different ballgame altogether. trust me, PTD just kuli for boss. we are like any normal officers. nothing special. experiences from workin in ministry. it might look glamor from outside but inside, there is nothin different compared to other skims. if u intend to be corrupt, u can do it at any skims, not oni as peg tadbir.

ADO and CADO is a different experience. not sure bout land business. haha. although i have heard of sneaky stuff, it is very small compared to the majority of officers struggling to juggle work with limited free time.

all i can say is since u mentioned that being a ptd, ur able to get money, why not join and experience urself? then u can enlighten us on ur lucrative "experience" smile.gif
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post Jun 29 2012, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(NeuroOne @ Jun 29 2012, 04:48 PM)
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on other stories...

29 Jun 2012

Jabatan Perkhidmatan Awam (JPA) ingin memaklumkan bahawa khidmat YBhg. Tan Sri Abu Bakar bin Haji Abdullah, Ketua Pengarah Perkhidmatan Awam tamat pada 1 Julai 2012.

YBhg. Tan Sri telah memulakan perkhidmatan sebagai Pegawai Tadbir dan Diplomatik pada September 1977 di Kementerian Perdagangan dan Perindustrian.

Beliau seterusnya berkhidmat di beberapa Kementerian antaranya Kementerian Pertahanan Malaysia, Kementerian Wilayah Persekutuan, dan Jabatan Perdana Menteri.

Beliau merupakan Ketua Setiausaha Kementerian Pertahanan sebelum menyandang jawatan Ketua Pengarah Perkhidmatan Awam pada 1 Julai 2010. Beliau telah menyumbang kepada perkhidmatan awam selama 35 tahun.

Unit Komunikasi Korporat
Jabatan Perkhidmatan Awam Malaysia
Putrajaya
29 Jun 2012

sos: http://www.jpa.gov.my/index.php?option=com...emid=70&lang=ms
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post Jul 16 2012, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(sweetly_mad @ Jul 16 2012, 02:58 PM)
Haiyo uncle...he typed TAKBIR instead of TADBIR so I perli him la...lol...In my years of service I've learnt not to get too emotional with haterz who will never understand the intricacies of our job. So instead of correcting em' I'd rather laugh at their silly a*s. Way more fun. Lol.
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no need gaduh2 lar. i prefer if the thread was utilized to inform future applicants bout the skim or clear any doubts in a civilised manner yawn.gif

anyway no new intakes in my division. not sure bout the whole ministry though.
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post Jul 19 2012, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(clofae @ Jul 19 2012, 04:42 PM)
Hello, I've just stumbled upon this thread and it's a 100 pages long, can someone kindly explain what does this post of Pegawai Tadbir and Diplomatik -M41 involve and how will the selection process be like ? (in short, pretty please)  smile.gif
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in short, PTD's are admin officers in charge of finance, HR, processing etc (8 bidang). All KSU's and top management are held by majority PTD's. Pls refer to www.spa.gov.my for selection process. dont be lazy smile.gif basically u have to pass 3 stages, written exam -> PAC (physical and presentation skills assessment centre) -> interview.
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post Sep 16 2012, 06:11 PM

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Condolences to our fellow PTD in DPA who just passed away during the wataniah modul. May his soul RIP.
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post Sep 25 2012, 04:18 PM

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m41 (p1t1) startin is fairly average. bout RM2250 + RM850 allowances. Yes, some other skims, eg. W (akauntan, juruaudit etc) earns more coz with a bac in accounting, u start at p1t6 i tink. not too sure bout the details though. U can just google for the answer. or surf SPA's website.
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post Sep 26 2012, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(sharifahay @ Sep 26 2012, 09:05 AM)
Whoa, didn't expect the starting salary would reach RM2,250. Awesome. And thanks for that bit of info, deepan84.

You can click on this URL to know more about the salary scale, shadow_walker: http://www.spa.gov.my/Portal/Deskripsi_Tugas/Ijazah/1609
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RM1993 plus increment 13% recently will come to RM2250 smile.gif Hope there is extra incentives for us during the bajet.
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post Sep 27 2012, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(sharifahay @ Sep 27 2012, 06:26 AM)
Let's hope for that!
Agreed. It's relative, though. Because where I live, the PTD salary scale is considered as pretty good.

I mean, I used to earn measly pay as a junior executive; granted, I was just graduated and had no job experience whetsoever in the field, but the initial pay offered to me was RM600. I accepted it because I needed the experience, jobs were hard to come by, and finding one out of the city wasn't an option.

But yeah, if I lived in the West Coast, it'd probably be hard for me to create a big nest egg with that kind of pay. I think.
Oh, don't be disheartened. You need to know that there's a certain period of how long the job is open for applications. I applied for the job November last year (or was it January this year?), and got an exam call letter last April. Since you said you just posted your application to SPA, I'm guessing you'll only get a call letter next intake. Cheers for that! smile.gif

There're certain criteria that one must fulfill to be eligible for the exam, but those criterions are very general. You may refer to the SPA portal--the info should be available online.

Hm, I can't say the questions are tough or otherwise, because each person has a different perception of what's difficult and what's not. Personally, I think the Qs were OK. It's good if you purchase one of those PTD exam packages online. At least, you'll have some gist of what the papers will be like. Tipsptd.com does offer some good exam packages.

Some words of advice: It's best if you jump on the civil service bandwagon not for the sake of monetary and travelling benefits alone. I was like that before, now I know that if I want to be a civil servant, it must and should be for the reason that I truly want to serve for the country. Like what Pierre Corneille once wrote, 'Avant que d'être à vous je suis à mon pays'. Above belonging to you, I belong to my country.

Good luck! biggrin.gif
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i like ur optimism. if u really wanna serve the country, go join the army. haha. a job is a job, no matter where. if u feel d benefits are bad, move on to the pvt sector. but dont ever console urself by sayin ur serving the nation, coz sooner or later the effects of self-consolation will wear off and ull be facing a long repetitive boring cycle in the service, and maybe without proper promotion due to large number of junior staff. and it might be too late to move out by that time. Only apply if ur weighed in the prospect of service (pros and cons) and if ur willing to accept it, den join us. just being real here smile.gif

neway how cud u accept a pay package of 600? i was once offered 1.2k in an audit firm after my grad (2008). i told dem to F off politely. u shud never ever under value urself to accommodate a companies salary structure.
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QUOTE(sharifahay @ Sep 27 2012, 11:37 AM)
Like I mentioned earlier, don't let financial benefits be the only motivation driver to stick to a job. It's not wrong to take tangible benefits into consideration when choosing a job, but to only have those in mind...I personally don't think it's right. Yes, of course the major reason we want a job is to put food on the table, but in the long run, we'll want something more than just getting a big paycheque very month.

That being said, I can see your point. We have to be realistic, yes. But to hop from one job to another everytine a better opportunity comes in...that's not being realistic, that's materialistic. Well, to each his own. Whatever rocks you boat. smile.gif

Oh, yeah. About my previous job. I was appalled when they offered me a meager RM600. Their justification was, I'd no experience in the field at all. Eventually, they added RM300 to the initial offer since I was a college graduate. I didn't exaggerate when I said that it was tough to find a job in my field (at least, in the city that I lived and am still living). I literally had to cold-call every audit firm in the city to ask for work, but they preferred soemone who could speak Mandarin Chinese (most business owners in the city were of Chinese descent). I guess it was a miracle that my employer was willing to accept me. I also eventually learnt Mandarin. And despite the small pay, I was happy working there. My boss was very supportive and respectful, the colleagues were friendly and helpful. Couldn't ask for a better company.
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Haha. Just be prepared that things wont be so rosy as what ppl say bout PTD skim (fast promotion, travelling overseas, high bonus, good claims). Coz i really can't see any of it currently hmm.gif But u do get a secure job at d expense of pay package. U attended ur PAC?
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post Oct 2 2012, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(tenno @ Oct 2 2012, 10:05 AM)
Whoa.... this thread is still alive I see... but 6 years & it hasn't reached 2500 posts yet ?  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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if this was Cari.com.my, i tink the target would have been achieved. haha.
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post Oct 2 2012, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(tenno @ Oct 2 2012, 12:02 PM)
Yeah, I guess so.... see U at the gym 2moro...  rclxms.gif
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defintely bro =P
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post Nov 16 2012, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(NeuroOne @ Nov 4 2012, 07:46 AM)
gym buddies? or 'gym shower' buddies?  tongue.gif
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MOF buddies bro smile.gif A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step in the gym wink.gif
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post Nov 26 2012, 09:25 AM

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do u get allowance for sitting on GLC board meeting? coz afaik, in ministry level only upper management receive allowance. us junior to middle managers dont get any allowance sitting in board meetings sad.gif
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post Dec 7 2012, 11:43 AM

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Min RM2,252.80 - starting pay
Max RM5,556.62 - ceiling for m41

Annual increment 225
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post Dec 7 2012, 09:14 PM

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u can get the startin salary from SPA website. with a degree, u enter PDRM as Inspector. salary can be seen by using google.

All fresh grad intake most probably will be Asst Director/Asst Secretary or relevant field officers based on their skim.
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post Jan 10 2013, 03:16 PM

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heard new ptd's going thru cadet style DPA. good luck.
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post Apr 15 2013, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(gahpadu @ Apr 14 2013, 09:32 PM)
if not mistaken ...this year no PAC...only interview session then...one year cadet PTD
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i think still got PAC la. just coz not mentioned in the ad doesnt mean dont have. the ad just states that after interview u have DPA la. and that is the current procedure.

exam* -> pac -> interview -> kadet dpa -> tetap

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post Apr 15 2013, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(Dead4Life @ Apr 15 2013, 01:54 PM)
Yup thats correct.

I think I suck in essay (both BM and English). I'd only manage to finish the essay for 1 and half page only.

Other candidates around me (most were women) did more than 3 pages. Pressure ooo...
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actually SPA is not looking at your vocab or length of ur essay. Rather they are looking at how you present your ideas using the most simplest and compact way without compromising on quality. Mind you, this is not a SPM exam paper. I myself did bout 1 to 1.5 page in my essays. i finished my english essay in 15mins and waltzed out asap. hahaha.

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