if you not see from rear mirror, see from the driver seat, still similar like see from rear mirror?

i'm using Llumar, faced the same thing, if see from rear mirror, looks very blur at nite.

but see from driver seat...its normal view.

wanted to try but of course want to know what others have to say about its effectiveness.. if can't feel any significant difference.. then i'll pass..

thanks for sharing.. appreciate it...

it is only a few hundred dollars product. if it really has very significant effect, hi lo soft hard adjustable also no need to sell already.

This stiff ring is installed on the lingkage between main frame and front sub frame. These frames are on top of each other, going through holes at the same axis. Total of 4 pcs for Forte, only at the front.

If you see them take out these 4 bolts, you will actually see that there is a gap between the hole and the bolt. It is not a good fit. Why this happened? It is bacause during manufacturing, they want to install fast. Installing this might need 30 minutes or more for 4 pcs. Over the time, these bolts will loose hence you hear all sorts of sound.

So what is the effect? Like bro boxter said, there is no effect, most probably because he is not sensitive enough on his hands, butt, backbone. Or the effect is not significant to him as his car is new during installation when the nuts are still intact?

The first thing I feel is that the steering is much more stable. Vibration is lesser than the already less at high speed, uneven roads, pot holes and small rock bumps.

Second would be the handling. The car turns at a sharper rate, more towards your command.

The third is the one I love the most. The sound when it goes through uneven road. The sound of emptiness or tin milo sound is reduced by alot, though I cannot say it is on par with conti cars. With the price paid, I don't feel like my car is falling apart on uneven roads. Whole thing is more solid now.

My verdict? I will install another 4 if they have anything for the rear. However, for Forte, they only have front 4.

What to do with the back? Put rear lower arm bar. Gives the same effect as number 3. Also better rear stability during high speed lane changing.

Stiff ring and adjustable serves different purpose bro.

pair both together and with the right setting, it will be like heaven

Pair this 2 sama URB. Gooding. But one set of adjustable is too expensive. And it is not transferable to another car even if it is durable enough.

can sell to other members. Grab a good one and let the poison spreads.

This is the thing. By the time I change car, it would be after 7 years. By that time, who will still want it? Who can still use it? Cerato is already using a different base.

as long as the adjustable kilang tak bangkrap, then still have resale value one since it is servicable.

no more TT nowadays ?

reason is ur car is still new and all seal / rubber still tight...

remember sometime fully tight doesn't mean good...no flexibility....

Yeap when i installed my recently, the guy told me it was too tight...no flexibility not good.

For now, What i feel from installing it, less vibration when i go pass holes, humps, steering much more steady.

You have to be really aware of ur car to notice the difference.

Yours were installed in SMM? Since the ring is making the frames more solid and does not affecting the car flex, so I do not see a problem. The holes get filled is giving me the effect that I want.

Yeap SMM. When they tried to open one of the nut it was too tight, he said not good. He used torque wrench to fix the stiff ring so i assume it should be at about the right level of force used to tight it back after installation.

But its a small budget stuff you cant expect so much difference, but so far im happy with it. If need major difference you need to spend more money, with it comes better quality but for the right product.

This post has been edited by sathyendran: Aug 27 2013, 11:30 AM

Oh, I thought you say that the effect after adding stiff ring is too tight. Mine was at the right level when they took it out. Also using torque wrench to tighten it back. Now after service in SC, I will go there to do health check for the car, tighten the bolts under the car, tighten the bars, etc.

How often you do health check? Planning to add UR Bars soon...

Front 2 point is good enough rite? Plus Rear ARB.

This post has been edited by sathyendran: Aug 27 2013, 11:44 AM

Health check after every service in SC.

I did front 2 points tower bar, rear ARB and last week I did rear lower arm bar. The effect is good too. Like it when the car changes lane at high speed and also when you go through uneven road. Car feels further more solid.

If Forte has front ARB in the market, I would have installed it too. The front now seems to have understeer at round abouts, but I can live with that.

FYI, I just did major service last 2 weeks at the sc for mileage at 80k++. I went to another workshop. They said the resistor and blower ok, but maybe the wiring got a problem. There's 2 wires that connect to the blower, 1 is current and another 1 is earth. But when they check, both are currents. They dont know why it happened.

Owhkk...ill try the tower and rear arb first to checkout the difference before adding on...