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pianrasa
post Aug 26 2013, 08:51 PM

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Hi there...

Really interested to know about this stiff ring.. said to Maximize Chassis Stability of our beloved Forte.. Have any of you installed this stiff ring? care to share your experience?
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pianrasa
post Aug 26 2013, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(boxter @ Aug 26 2013, 09:08 PM)
installed. no significant feeling...so u still insist to try?
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wanted to try but of course want to know what others have to say about its effectiveness.. if can't feel any significant difference.. then i'll pass.. tongue.gif

thanks for sharing.. appreciate it...
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post Aug 27 2013, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Aug 26 2013, 10:12 PM)
This stiff ring is installed on the lingkage between main frame and front sub frame. These frames are on top of each other, going through holes at the same axis. Total of 4 pcs for Forte, only at the front.

If you see them take out these 4 bolts, you will actually see that there is a gap between the hole and the bolt. It is not a good fit. Why this happened? It is bacause during manufacturing, they want to install fast. Installing this might need 30 minutes or more for 4 pcs. Over the time, these bolts will loose hence you hear all sorts of sound.

So what is the effect? Like bro boxter said, there is no effect, most probably because he is not sensitive enough on his hands, butt, backbone. Or the effect is not significant to him as his car is new during installation when the nuts are still intact?

The first thing I feel is that the steering is much more stable. Vibration is lesser than the already less at high speed, uneven roads, pot holes and small rock bumps.

Second would be the handling. The car turns at a sharper rate, more towards your command.

The third is the one I love the most. The sound when it goes through uneven road. The sound of emptiness or tin milo sound is reduced by alot, though I cannot say it is on par with conti cars. With the price paid, I don't feel like my car is falling apart on uneven roads. Whole thing is more solid now.

My verdict? I will install another 4 if they have anything for the rear. However, for Forte, they only have front 4.

What to do with the back? Put rear lower arm bar. Gives the same effect as number 3. Also better rear stability during high speed lane changing.
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Bro lingleeyen..

thanks for the elaborated explanation.. gives me the goose bumps just reading it.. rclxms.gif
What u said makes perfect sense. i think i'll be ordering those stiff rings very soon..

What about the installation? easy enough?

u mentioned about installing a rear lower arm bar to complement those stiff rings.... would an ARB do? i already have it installed. afraid that if i were to add more it will make the car too stiff...

thanks again.. notworthy.gif
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post Aug 29 2013, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Aug 28 2013, 02:09 AM)
Do the mod one by one bro. Test and really feel if that one mod is useful for you or if it is placebo. Step by step also allows you to stop once you are satisfied.

I would say let the pro do the stiff ring installation. It can take a good 30 minutes with de-bolt, greasing and tighten with the correct torque. I would not recommend DIY.

I would assume that you have front tower bar too besides that ARB. Feel the rigidity first of the whole drive after the stiff ring. Drive around more to decide. If you feel it is enough, stop. I thought I had enough only to find that my hands got itchy 2 months later. So I add on the rear lower arm bar (RLAB) to try try see see. I am happy with the result.

ARB and RALB is installed at a different position and doing different work. Not sure if you have looked under the car. If you are looking at the spring as a straight vertical line, the absorber is diagonal. They are not on the same line like the front.

ARB is installed at the bottom of the spring mounting. The ARB pull the 2 sides of mounting together. The springs now works up and down simultaneously in ideal condition. Therefore you will feel the stiffness on uneven road. By establishing these 2 mountings' dependency, the body roll effect is reduced by one side of the tyre being pulled to the ground by the other during cornering. Fortunately and unfortunately, ideal condition does not exist and ARB actually flexes. That is why you won't feel like sitting in a Triton, but still gives you the reduction in body roll effect. I must admit that the drive is slight stiffer than stock on uneven roads. With this flex also, ARB can only claim to reduce but not eliminating the body roll effect.

RLAB is installed slight in front of the ARB. The diagonal suspension lower end will go to a sub frame, which goes to a metal linkage which goes to the main frame. So the linkage will be taken off, leaving 2 holes at one side. 4 holes on both left and right, hence the 4 points bar. This bar is actually a replacement to the metal linkages. Eventhough the linkage is solid, heavy, but the bar is stronger, hence less flex, which in turn generates a better absorber direction behaviour. Pulling the main frame and sub frame together also strengthens the whole chasis. No more feeling like falling apart.

Where do you plan to go to do the stiff ring?
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Only have FSB (Front Strut Bar) and ARB installed as from what I read they are a perfect match and would serve the purpose for an average guy like me.

But the more u explain the more I got poisoned larrr... tongue.gif e.g. your explanation on the RLAB..

Coming back to your initial advice though, do the mod one by one, plan to install those stiff rings at a workshop nearby. Living in Langkawi, not too many choices to go to.

Super thanks for ur lengthy explanation... rclxms.gif always interesting to read...

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