Bdr Kinrara

No units : 45

Price : RM947,800 onwards.

B/up: 2276ft onwards

BAllot : 30/07/2013


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Quite expensive. Sigh.

Even Emerald 22x75 at RM 1mil asking also not doing well.

Only 45 units, tat is exclusive. But Wonder how to sell above RM 1.15mil in next 2-3 years.

How many sold? Or how many unsold??

Sign of market fatigue?

That wat i thought on Qaseh last time at RM960K...

regret no buy,....

ahaha...but of course buying now is higher risk....

actually i look at it....

i think 22x70 a tad expensive...

but there are those bigger land size 1800++ which is RM90K+ more is a better buy....

haha. those old houses at BK5 22x75 already 7xxk. Newer like BK5B Damai, 22x75 already asking 8xxk with some reno..

This one, 945k somemore with 50% MOT. I think it will still sapu kering kering. except bumi lot.

Of course, flipping not much meat lah.

If this project comes with G&G freehold, they won't build DSL 22x70,

very likely 3 storey houses from 1.5M.

But as usual, ignorant I&P won't make G&G.

Wtf.. 22x70 without gng also close to 1mil?
I am officially classified as below poverty line group liao. Sigh.

seriously why I&P don't just make these overpriced dev as G&G, don't understand what's on their mind?

Last time I did ask their SA, she says it is individual title, so cannot do G&G.

WTF! many projects by IOI also non strata, individual title lah, people still doing G&G very well.

The plot of land at Qaseh was just perfectly good to make a small G&G and they didn't do it.. If they put a little more efford, it can easily sell at least 30% more by then.

why you need G&G facility from developer as you and other owners also can make own decision set up by yourself? Some clients they will think different as they think: by making G&G facilities, developer easily increase price 10-20% so they dont prefer developer with G&G concept. I think I&P understand what this customer group thinking.

It is not easy to form RA, it could took ages to form if developer doesn't help.

You see, development these days, easily over 70% are flippers, flippers usually doesn't care about forming RA, they won't come for meeting, won't pay , yada yada.

especially when there is a lot of units. double the trouble.

Very true.

Even developer only help after VP, it is not easy to form a good RA for G&G. Their assistance is limited since there is no DMC and owners have their own points n decisions.

Ya boss, you are

In which part/section of BK?

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This post has been edited by LOLxx: Jul 27 2013, 02:35 PM

What you mean, bro VTEC?

miss the first come first serve one week camping scenario

Now Cyberjaya is cheap!

HAHA....cyberjaya environment is good...but a bit far if compare to bdr kinrara if you would go pj or kl.

FYI, today i c 8kinrara.. 99% sold (except pent house) for non-bumi.

eh i thought market is slowing down?

asal macam no sign of slow?

Qaseh is how big again??
Still got developer unit?

This post has been edited by airline: Jul 27 2013, 03:33 PM

Wow, that really show no sign of slowing down.

I think alot of people here drop their spec coz thinking that 8kinrara above 600psf not going to do well.

Qaseh is 24x80 and built up 2800 sf onwards.

Subsales ada lah. RM 1.25 mil onwards. Not sure can get at RM 1.2mil or not, unless the owner previously bought with 7% bumi quota.

Qaseh starting from 24x80 with 2800sf i think. Developer unit sure finished liao. Heard that it is actively transacted in subsale market with value from 1.3M now.

what kind of excuse is that? individual title cannot G&G?

Yes, it's true, even I myself also think that but once they sold well for their higher price range of Kasih @ Glenmarie, I already predict 8 Kinrara at RM 600+ psf would be much better performance. It sold 70% within first 2 days and 90% in 1 week plus.

This is very legit and very genuine buys where only DIBS and no early bird discount.

really never show any sign of slowing down, and no wonder they price their Irama @ 22x70 at RM 947,888 .... salute~~

It's not excuse.

It is just I&P ... If I am the developer, why bother to give G&G and price higher a bit since non G&G with high price already can sell so well?

true also

Oooops

Trying to get statistical info

X unit sold / Y total unit avail within Z period

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I guess by now.... People treat property as "FD" or "shares" or Investment 💰💰💰💰

So ....

Just like me... 😄😄

Now only minimum "other" investment and cash are kept within XX % asset allocation.

Anyone know where exactly is this project ? And where is their sale office ?

Thanks

I live in BK and my opinion is....buy sub sale better...you can find a bigger unit at a better location for a cheaper price...spare money can be used for reno..since you have to service interest on loan and pay 10% upfront anyway..

IMO, i dont care so much about G&G, that is situation solution. I need my children growing up in open social environment. For long time, security is government job. We pay tax and we can ark government about that, they need to complete their mission! If all of us just care about our self, we can not make nation develop.

This post has been edited by Maximo1: Jul 27 2013, 10:02 PM

Certainly there are a lot buyers outside like you and do not mind or care about the G&G or F&G. Or else, I&P won't be able to sold off most of their recent linked houses at such high prices., ex. Sapphire, Emerald, Qaseh.

Also, there are a lot of people out there like me, very mind and care to buy a G&G ( clubhouse or not, is not a must ) or no less than a F&G with good security mindset.

If my parents and sibling are going to stay with me, I don't mind to buy any new house or corner linked house without G&G as long as the house is nice, quality and good and anytime filled with my parents or more people.

But if there is only my wife and / or myself for own stay, certainly whenever I plan to buy a linked house and go for own stay, G&G is my priority before price, size, developer and concept of the development.

Every individual has different aspect. In terms of investment, I still prefer to go for F&G or G&G, as the similar security townships or mini is very much lesser than non G&G, hence, I believe the capital appreciation is much higher compare to the latter.

Many individuals prefer to move to better security condo due to they unable to find a better security mindset non G&G and non F&G landed.

If we rely on the government to do the job where we paid tax, it would be mission very impossible.

how's the sales ?

Correctly! so agree to me that I&P know that without G&G, their products still attract enough clients and it make them be difference from other developers. That maybe a reason.

is this going to be the normal price for DSL houses in the future?

Not even a superlink, 22x70 us quite small.

Shake hand, you're reading out my thought as well... +1

Shake hand +2 ... a lot of brothers out there having the similar thought like us too.

Sapphire is now better buy at 950k now ... 22x75 ...

Actually what is so special about Kinrara ah? The price is so high for a non PJ area. Is it hype that drives people buying there or it is truly a golden location like Mutiara or Ara Damansara?

U r such a naive person...BUT dont talk so loud first...wait till u kena parang or makan kacang then only u know why so many people pay idiot price for g&g

Err.... Please don't label other people by their comments as everyone is different. Your comments are valid though. In TMn Tun especially a lot if house owner are paranoid about opening their gates after 8pm. This is because many cases if robber waiting to rush into the house when the gate opens. Too many cases to mention. That's why Gated and Guarded is really very very important. Can u imagine paying 1.5 million for a link house in Tmn Tun but u can't even open your gate in peace? Like that how to grow up in an open community? Open gate also kena parang. Beware my dear friends!!

Me
My cermin mata pecah berkecai-kecai
However my stand is still firm, only smallest unit worth buying

Haha. A lot ppl drop their cermin mata too.

After I see the unbelievable sales in Kasih @ Glenmarie, I already had gut feeling this 8 Kinrara can do the same and better.

Due to many big units also at RM 600+ psf, I only predict 70% sales in a month time. But now, only 2 days to reach 70% and close to sold out now.

Sales status
Total units : 46

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incredibly priced! My eyes open wide, no need kaca mata anymore...

Really no speech

Floor Layout

Thanks for the info yunalesca, so did you manage to grab one nice unit?

Can set up but design not nice ma. Especially the wire fence and the portable guard house.

Surprise that only 18 out 45 units being sold?

house got no solar power heater, no alarm system, no autogate (with point only).
no aircon and point

omg, not move in condition. close to 1m prop. wtf !

This post has been edited by linkor: Aug 1 2013, 08:48 AM

Price strategy fails again!
Only 17/45 units sold!

Too echpensip imho

they price it psf, 400psf. BBB... :-p

psf is getting less and less effective as a means to measure pricing.

Can only use it to measure same type of property with more or less the same built up.

Eg can't compare using psf when condo built up is 750 sf vs 1300 sf, and landed 2000 sf vs 3500 sf.

Strata title landed maybe yes la

Just a simple calculation to check the absolute figure :-

Condo :-

700 sf x 600 psf = 420,000

1300 sf x 600 psf = 780,000

Landed :-

2000 sf x 400 sf = 800,000

3500 sf x 400 sf = 1,400,000

Would you still think the 3500 sf at 400 psf a BBB ?

Effectively, it is RM 416 psf for the intermediates.

Nearest size as comparison,
Sapphire 22x75, built up 2433 sq ft.
RM 850k to RM 900k now, RM 361-382 psf.
Very few units available and majority transacted at RM 800-850k at 2012 to 2013 Q1.
One nicely full reno unit, facing T-junction, asking RM 850k

Emerald 22x75, built up 2433 sq ft.
RM 950k to RM 1.0mil, RM 390 - 411 psf.
Majority units transacted at RM 900-980k at 2012 to 2013 Q1.
A lot units asking RM 1.05mil & abv, but hardly move unless Qaseh asking price much higher than RM 1.35mil bcz agents told that clients rather try to offer for Qaseh at RM 1.2mil rather than RM 1.05mil for smaller size.

Thanks Chris, that means I&P is merely selling at market price...not overpriced.

This is true. Absolute pricing is very crucial and critical.
If above applies, smaller size is more liquid esp for highrise. Although, 8 Kinrara proved me wrong due to its smaller size to biggest size also similar at RM 610-670 psf.

But for landed, I think merely based on concept, standard size of living demand, security and few more factors. I believe ppl tend to prefer 22x75 as general and standard living lifestyle and when price hit RM 1mil & above, 24x75, 24x80 and 24x85 are more liquid for them in terms of pricing psf.

Ex. Landed for 22x75, asking price of RM 650-750k moved very well. Landed for 24 x 80, asking price of RM 800-1mil moved very well.

For Bdr Kinrara...
22 x 75 stagnant at RM 1-1.05mil ( RM 411-431 psf ) but
24 x 80 easily can sell at RM 1.2- 1.25mil ( RM 428-446 psf )
Weird ?

Which means for landed, the land area is an additional important consideration. I think this 22x70 launch is not so well received mainly due to smaller land area.

if you are tradisional thinker, min land size for house should be 22x75.

There's one smart fellow use 22 x 70 and make it 5 storey terrace in Kuchai lama, that concept didn't received well by the local...

But, if we are looking at long term, 20x70 one day will become a standard size, 22x75 will become superlink

For me I think it's the other way round.

That is, 22x70 used to be acceptable but now people who can afford to buy landed, they tend to think 22x75 is the minimum.

New buyers who cannot afford 22x75 ( and superlink built up ), they might just go an purchase condo instead of settling down at 22x70.

i reckon 24ft width is the minimum. 22ft is too narrow

Yup yup.

Haha, simply over price. Relli kenot digest how a 22" x 70", such small house without any of the things you listed above and without anything fittings nearing Qaseh, close to SATU JUTA is ridiculous leh.

The major concern is the land size 22x70

Yes, i think for landed property, price included two parts, land cost (included area infrastructure cost) and housing construction cost. So, the bigger land, the more higher price in term PSF. Smaller land and more floor, price more lower.

The other main concern is facing main road and school.

Mutiara and Ara Damansara are golden locations? Please define your interpretation of golden location. 2 entry roads via Persiaran Surian and NKVE only? No MRT/LRT? What is the distance to KL/PJ center? I think the real culprit to too much hype is Mutiara and Ara Damansara (is it really Damansara? Or just tumpang the name?). Bandar Kinrara has been relatively low key all this while.

where is it located? is it next to qaseh??

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Called up the sales gallery. 4 units left - No. 26, 31, 39 and 41. Not bad sales with over 90% take up rate in 2 weeks (with Raya holiday) considering the high amount of initial commitment of RM50k upfront and remaining 10% within 2 months. Looks like mostly are buying for own stay.

Also further enquired and they will be launching the shop lots next. The last phase of link houses will be launched next year.

you mean 4 intermediate units left right? endlot and corner still available...

All are intermediate except 41 which is an endlot.

No, I mean thats all that is left for the project. 4 units including endlots and corner units.

Pretty decent sales considering no marketing, advertising, email/sms blasts, discounts, rebates, dibs, schemes....etc

thanks for the update. impressed really by the buyers, at this price I always thought G&G link is a better buy...but perhaps underestimate the pull of Kinrara or InP

Good news for existing owners @ BK. Prices will surely move up step-by-step

as to my knowledge, old BK houses subsales asking price up 50k b4 the launch.

I think it shouldnt be any issue bcz sure got Bdr Kinrara die hard supporters although the price is not low due to very limited units of Irama and not those 200-500 units project and somemore, not only Bdr Kinrara has no new launches of link houses but almost whole Puchong also quite rare except the part of Puchong / Tasik Prima area stetch to Puchong South aka 16 Sierra.

I expect next phase ( next to this Irama ) could be slightly better and more expensive due to Irama directly facing school.

Yes, agreed on the part about the school which is a real turn off. That's why I would prefer facing the bungalow lots/golf course. The site is on higher ground, level with the top floor of the serdang police headquarters and higher than the Kinrara Hills project.

Actually the project is indeed G&G. The first 2 years security will be provided and paid by I&P. Subsequently, the following years will be managed by the RA. Similar to Qaseh.

This post has been edited by ykt2: Aug 16 2013, 01:20 PM

It's F&G then, not G&G ... btw, got any DMC signed and any idea how much is the monthly security / maintenance fee?

If this Irama got few rows or more units to double up ( not 300-500 ), then it could be much better and nicer neighbourhood.

Yes, you are right, it would be a nicer neighbourhood with slightly more units. However, I do foresee the area becoming more vibrant once they launch some of the condo's in their masterplan as well as link the road to BK9 (The Zest).

Sorry, whats the difference between F&G and G&G? What is DMC?

Went to sales ofiz today
All non Bumi units have been sold

I really can't understand

Y can't understand?

anyone want subsale? nearby this area. price from 870k onwards..im no agent, just helping my fren sell his house. he going to pindah semi-d

In or outside BK?

Limited units and limited opportunity around sure got some BK die hard buyers bought it.

In bk5

Nearby tis area is only Emerald and Sapphire, I am not marketing tis area.
Latest transacted price for Emerald intermediate is RM1.08 mil. No unit available in Sapphire now, 950K can't secure any unit at this moment. It's quite unbelievable!
There is no G+G in Bdr Kinrara except Kinrara Hills and condos (or service apt)

This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Sep 15 2013, 10:15 AM

Wat is the land size n b/u?

i oni remember 20x70.. b/u not really remember.. but as far i know the kitchen and the porch was fully extended.. if u really interested pm me la.. will help u guys ask further..

Could b uphill battle @ 870k for 20x70

duno le..wat i heard is value can goes as high as 860k wor

For 22x75 or 22x80, possible at 860k