QUOTE(present me @ Sep 26 2013, 12:33 AM)
Congrats!Monk Discussion V6, TR Vroom with V6 Engine~
Monk Discussion V6, TR Vroom with V6 Engine~
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Sep 26 2013, 12:38 AM
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Sep 26 2013, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 25 2013, 04:42 PM) that monk has good money spend on it. membo, natalya ring. pretty good.my humble monk, bought by the leg shit i collected and sold. http://d3up.com/b/1091340 This post has been edited by night_wolf_in: Sep 26 2013, 12:47 AM |
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Sep 26 2013, 03:17 AM
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QUOTE(night_wolf_in @ Sep 26 2013, 12:46 AM) that monk has good money spend on it. membo, natalya ring. pretty good. if u want the best, surely need to "invest" on your toon my humble monk, bought by the leg shit i collected and sold. http://d3up.com/b/1091340 |
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Sep 26 2013, 07:54 AM
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Sep 25 2013, 04:48 PM) ALeUNe, i dont believe this dude Thanks for the skills suggestions, I'll be sure to give WoL a spin. However, Thunderclap is simply incredible with WKL period so that means Breath of Heaven -Infused with Light gets the boot for now. My belief is in for a monk character class has got what it takes to stay alive with ~3% ls and no more. Never let RD affix to convince us to settle for more ls and thus, weaken our tdps . So, that means it's ~3% ls + possibly, 300k dps for WKL ultimately. |
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Sep 26 2013, 09:55 AM
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Feel free to critique both the active and passive skills of my monk's latest build called EFearsomeWKLFist V2.1 as follow;-
Active Skills 1. Fists of Thunder -Thunderclap 2. Dashing Strike -Quicksilver 3. Exploding Palm -The Flesh is Weak 4. Mantra of Conviction -Overawe 5. Cyclone Strike -Implosion 6. Sweeping Wind -Cyclone Passive Skills 1. Exalted Soul 2. Seize the Initiative 3. Pacifism Gameplay Activate DS -Quicksilver then followed by SW -Cyclone. FoT -Thunderclap made it so easy to stick with your occasionally feared target to get out of the heavily covered with elemental attack areas and don't forget to spam MoC -Overawe, every 3 second. Finally, reel in your victims by the use of CS -Implosion and pinpoint an almost dead target with EP -The Flesh is Weak to decimate everything within its vicinity. Vital Statistics by the courtesy of d3up. Summary Weapons = A low fear factor of 10.2%, decent ChD + osEmerald Echoing Fury (MH) and ls + osEmerald Won Kim Lau (OH) DPS = 228k EHP = 618k Notes: 1) How to handle RD with 2.9% ls and 352 LoH? Just simply move WKL over to MH and swap in a 34% block + cc StormShield ...insignificant problem is solved! or just recently, I've been busy pushing up my monk's dps and ehp to 255k and 622k respectively. So far, the result of RD elite fights are a morale boosting 80% win and 20% lost. 2) I've tried Fists of Thunder -Quickening to generate sufficient spirit to spam the combo of CS -Implosion and Wave of Light but something isn't right! 1st update 2nd update This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Sep 26 2013, 10:17 AM |
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Sep 26 2013, 10:00 AM
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Sep 26 2013, 10:04 AM
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Sep 26 2013, 10:11 AM
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Sep 26 2013, 10:18 AM
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Moba
Meaning you swap weapons on RD? Thus 3 LS is not enough for high mps correct? |
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Sep 26 2013, 10:23 AM
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waklu i recalled holycow had many videos recorded clearing VoTa with single LS only, uses bell to restore life if not mistaken.
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Sep 26 2013, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(dreaming @ Sep 26 2013, 10:00 AM) also, the damages is lower, Damage doesn't come from FoT/Quickening. Thunderclap 110%+35%; but Quickening only 110% i believe cookies cutter still suit him according to his gearing. Real damage comes from the bell and cyclone strike combo. 1-2m+/hit per target from cyclone strike 3-5m+/hit per target from WoL. Quickening is used solely for spirit generation. This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Sep 26 2013, 10:39 AM |
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Sep 26 2013, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Sep 26 2013, 10:11 AM) The play style or more specifically the punches are no longer quick however the combo is a viable different ball game altogether. Yeap, play style will be very different, especially when you accustom to FoT/Thunderclap. It took me quite a while to get used to Quickening. I got so frustrated chasing the mobs with Quickening. Then one day I realized i didn't actually need to chase them. I pulled them in instead with Cyclone Strike. Just use any play style that suits you. |
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Sep 26 2013, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(waklu @ Sep 26 2013, 10:18 AM) A Won Kim Lau equipped monk can expect to die against RD MP10 elite packs in the range of unbuff sheet or paper dps from 180k to 270k. When my monk had ~200k dps, the death rate was 20% win and 80% lost however at ~250k dps currently, the ratio becomes 80% win and 20% lost. No weapons were swapped. Therefore, I'm fairly convinced that RD is no longer a threat at all once unbuff pdps reaches 275k and above while maintaining 625k ehp while recouping hp with 2.9% ls and 352 LoH. This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Sep 26 2013, 11:01 AM |
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Sep 26 2013, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Sep 26 2013, 10:45 AM) A Won Kim Lau equipped monk can expect to die against RD MP10 elite packs in the range of unbuff sheet or paper dps from 180k to 270k. When my monk had ~200k dps, the death rate was 20% win and 80% lost however at ~250k dps currently, the ratio becomes 80% win and 20% lost. No weapons were swapped. I got similar gears like yours...just that I have 3% LS and Trigen build. Therefore, I'm fairly convinced that RD is no longer a threat at all once unbuff pdps reaches 275k and above while maintaining 625k ehp while recouping hp with 2.9% ls and 352 LoH. I can tell you as a matter of fact, higher DPS...any WKL + FOT combo will be painful when faced with RD. I run peak buffed DPS is at 400k. A few times I have killed myself very quickly when I rush in activate MOC and RD minions starst to glow. Higher DPS still have to kite when you have 3%LS. I have close to 91% mitigation FYI.. |
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Sep 26 2013, 12:05 PM
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I was report many time single LS% always not comfortable to RD pack...
Special using EP n WOL single LS recover build ,stay alive issue... |
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Sep 26 2013, 12:08 PM
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Sep 26 2013, 12:09 PM
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Sep 26 2013, 12:14 PM
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Sep 26 2013, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Sep 26 2013, 11:42 AM) I got similar gears like yours...just that I have 3% LS and Trigen build. gladfly,I can tell you as a matter of fact, higher DPS...any WKL + FOT combo will be painful when faced with RD. I run peak buffed DPS is at 400k. A few times I have killed myself very quickly when I rush in activate MOC and RD minions starst to glow. Higher DPS still have to kite when you have 3%LS. I have close to 91% mitigation FYI.. You must be a skillful monk nephalem being able to handle the dangers of Diablo maps without making full use of Dashing Strike. Bravo! For your information, I'd copied and pasted your monk's exact skills build for my testing purpose and gear selections for my reference as a matter of factly, two weeks ago. One of the breakthrough discoveries is having stumbled upon Echoing Fury benefit that increases the Won Khim Lau attack speed significantly. Furthermore, Dashing Strike is the "life saver" skill to soften the effects of RD elite packs. Your Monk pDPS = 211.5k EHP = 411k Attacks per Second = 2.1 (MH & OH) Armor = 5.8k All Resist = 488 Total Dmg Reduction = 90.34 Hp = ~40k Life Steal = 3% LoH = 0 My Monk pDPS = 255k EHP = 622k Attacks per Second = 2.58 (MH) & 2.93 (OH) Armor = ~5.3k All Resist = 594 Total Dmg Reduction = 90.99 Hp = 56k Life Steal = 2.9% LoH = 352 I've always subscribed that EHP must be raised in tandem with higher DPS to survive RD. In my humble opinion, a fully buffed 400k dps monk needs not more than 1m ehp to survive RD. This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Sep 26 2013, 12:56 PM |
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Sep 26 2013, 12:50 PM
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No doubt EHP is significant in using a single LS when facing RD mobs. I watch invis videos and there are times when he is running with Single or no LS for the matter but I think the debate boils down to whether high EHP can sustain single LS on RD mobs without gear swapping. Honestly, I don't know as I've not tried it before. Maybe someone can pinjam me one with CD. kkekekekeke. I try give it a run and see.
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