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lksing78
post Sep 25 2013, 03:11 PM

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Weapon that goin to be in 2.0
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Common drop in console..
Belong to my friend wizard

Sick dps.... OMG

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post Sep 25 2013, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Sep 25 2013, 12:35 PM)
Feel free to critique both the active and passive skills of my monk's latest build called EFearsomeWKLFist as follow;-

Active Skills
1. Fists of Thunder -Thunderclap
2. Dashing Strike -Quicksilver
3. Breath of Heaven -Infused with Light
4. Mantra of Conviction -Overawe
5. Cyclone Strike -Implosion
6. Sweeping Wind -Cyclone

Passive Skills
1. Exalted Soul
2. Seize the Initiative
3. Pacifism

Gameplay
Activate DS -Quicksilver then followed by SW -Cyclone and perform BoH -IwL instantly. FoT -Thunderclap made it so easy to stick with your constantly feared target to get out of the heavily covered with elemental attack areas and don't forget to spam MoC -Overawe, every 3 second. Finally, reel in your victims by the use of CS -Implosion.

Vital Statistics by the courtesy of d3up
Summary
Weapons = A high fear factor of 17.5% + osRuby Echoing Fury (MH) and ls + osEmerald Won Kim Lau (OH)
DPS = 228k
EHP = 618k

Notes:
How to handle RD with 2.9% ls and 352 LoH? Just simply move WKL over to MH and swap in a 34% block + cc StormShield ...insignificant problem is solved!
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You are using 1 active skill + 1 passive skill for spirit generation.
IMO, it is not really effective because you can free some skill slots for burst damage skill like WoL or passive like NDE & OWE.
(defensive attributes of OWE will help you in coping RD elites).

Try replace FoT/Thunderclap with Quickening.
It should give you enough spirit generation.
With quickening, you should be able to spam your 1xWoL or 2xCyclone Strike every second.

But you need to get used to skill like FoT/Quickening as you don't teleport anymore.
As you use Cyclone Strike, you don't need to "stick" to the mobs since you pull the mobs to you.
Moreover, you're using Dashing Strike, you don't need teleport from FoT/Thunderclap.

WoL & Cyclone Strike combo is awesome.

For gears, instead of swapping your EF to SS, you might as well get an EF with LS.
You need additional LS at current state. You may probably drop LS when you hit 400K DPS (like invis, perhaps).
Using SS means you sacrifice a lot of DPS, imo, which is inefficient and unnecessary.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Sep 25 2013, 03:28 PM
Deckard Cain
post Sep 25 2013, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Sep 25 2013, 01:39 PM)
but online calculator said u already 300K+ dps rclxms.gif
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Eh, I see it's 297k wor.. hmm... Anyway try go above see can o not. Actually looking to improve my eHP. If possible 600ehp 300k dps then I'm done

QUOTE(lksing78 @ Sep 25 2013, 03:11 PM)
Weapon that goin to be in 2.0
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Common drop in console..
Belong to my friend wizard

Sick dps.... OMG
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Wahh so crazy man.. but I don't think our 2.0 loot will be so dasyat. maybe mini version of it
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post Sep 25 2013, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Sep 25 2013, 03:46 PM)
Eh, I see it's 297k wor.. hmm... Anyway try go above see can o not. Actually looking to improve my eHP. If possible 600ehp 300k dps then I'm done
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post Sep 25 2013, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Sep 25 2013, 04:28 PM)
D3up shows 300K DPS too.

http://d3up.com/b/1090377
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post Sep 25 2013, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 25 2013, 03:18 PM)
You are using 1 active skill + 1 passive skill for spirit generation.
IMO, it is not really effective because you can free some skill slots for burst damage skill like WoL or passive like NDE & OWE.
(defensive attributes of OWE will help you in coping RD elites).

Try replace FoT/Thunderclap with Quickening.
It should give you enough spirit generation.
With quickening, you should be able to spam your 1xWoL or 2xCyclone Strike every second.

But you need to get used to skill like FoT/Quickening as you don't teleport anymore.
As you use Cyclone Strike, you don't need to "stick" to the mobs since you pull the mobs to you.
Moreover, you're using Dashing Strike, you don't need teleport from FoT/Thunderclap. 

WoL & Cyclone Strike combo is awesome.

For gears, instead of swapping your EF to SS, you might as well get an EF with LS.
You need additional LS at current state. You may probably drop LS when you hit 400K DPS (like invis, perhaps).
Using SS means you sacrifice a lot of DPS, imo, which is inefficient and unnecessary.
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ALeUNe,

Thanks for the skills suggestions, I'll be sure to give WoL a spin. However, Thunderclap is simply incredible with WKL period so that means Breath of Heaven -Infused with Light gets the boot for now.

My belief is in for a monk character class has got what it takes to stay alive with ~3% ls and no more. Never let RD affix to convince us to settle for more ls and thus, weaken our tdps . So, that means it's ~3% ls + possibly, 300k dps for WKL ultimately.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Sep 25 2013, 04:54 PM
ALeUNe
post Sep 25 2013, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Sep 25 2013, 04:48 PM)
ALeUNe,

Thanks for the skills suggestions, I'll be sure to give WoL a spin. However, Thunderclap is simply incredible with WKL period so that means Breath of Heaven -Infused with Light has got the boot.

My belief is a monk character class has got what it takes to stay alive with ~3% ls and no more. Never let RD affix to convince us to settle for more ls and thus, weaken our tdps . So, that means it's ~3% ls + possibly, 300k dps for WKL ultimately.
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Both thunderclap and quickening are lightning based skills.
Both will benefit from WKL's lightning damage bonus.
You have pretty high crit chance. Quickening will give you lots of spirit through crit chance.

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3% LS is certainly doable. You just need to kite a bit in some circumstances.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Sep 25 2013, 04:58 PM
Deckard Cain
post Sep 25 2013, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 25 2013, 04:42 PM)
D3up shows 300K DPS too.

http://d3up.com/b/1090377
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Oh ok.. i see it. that one coz i switch to my lacuni's and use OWE.. kekeke. no wonder. I thought i was blinded.
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post Sep 25 2013, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Sep 25 2013, 04:48 PM)
ALeUNe,

Thanks for the skills suggestions, I'll be sure to give WoL a spin. However, Thunderclap is simply incredible with WKL period so that means Breath of Heaven -Infused with Light gets the boot for now.

My belief is in for a monk character class has got what it takes to stay alive with ~3% ls and no more. Never let RD affix to convince us to settle for more ls and thus, weaken our tdps . So, that means it's ~3% ls + possibly, 300k dps for WKL ultimately.
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I've never tried 3% LS but yes, it's sustainable with that amount of LS. I might try it one of these days but dang,.. have to find weapon with CD = spend some more.
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Sep 25 2013, 05:08 PM)
I've never tried 3% LS but yes, it's sustainable with that amount of LS. I might try it one of these days but dang,.. have to find weapon with CD = spend some more.
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Doable for sure, especially you go with the bell.
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post Sep 25 2013, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 25 2013, 05:09 PM)
Doable for sure, especially you go with the bell.
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Yeah I think bell damage is so overpowered that the Life you're getting back is insanely huge. Though I fear belling the wrong RD mob might also cost insta death sweat.gif
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post Sep 25 2013, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Sep 25 2013, 05:11 PM)
Yeah I think bell damage is so overpowered that the Life you're getting back is insanely huge. Though I fear belling the wrong RD mob might also cost insta death  sweat.gif
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It depends on your defensive attributes like AR/Armor/melee attack damage mitigation/e damage mitigation etc.
Try land the bell on a group of mobs, mix of white mobs and RD elites. That should be safe.

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post Sep 25 2013, 06:51 PM

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monk with overawe, cyclone, palm... not easy to coordinate to full efficiency... my monk skills are a long way to enligtenment. havent even tried dual spirit generator build yet!
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post Sep 25 2013, 07:44 PM

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Is an os Won Khim Lau that comes with cd better than ls!?

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Sep 25 2013, 07:44 PM)
Is an os Won Khim Lau that comes with cd better than ls!?
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Interesting one. I see CD ones are cheaper in comparison to LS ones. Hmmm.. maybe a stimulation on d3rawr or d3up might answer it. I see a lot of high end monks using CD EF with LS WKL.
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post Sep 25 2013, 11:11 PM

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Feel free to critique both the active and passive skills of my monk's latest build called EFearsomeWKLFist V2.1 as follow;-

Active Skills
1. Fists of Thunder -Thunderclap
2. Dashing Strike -Quicksilver
3. Exploding Palm -The Flesh is Weak
4. Mantra of Conviction -Overawe
5. Cyclone Strike -Implosion
6. Sweeping Wind -Cyclone

Passive Skills
1. Exalted Soul
2. Seize the Initiative
3. Pacifism

Gameplay
Activate DS -Quicksilver then followed by SW -Cyclone. FoT -Thunderclap made it so easy to stick with your constantly feared target to get out of the heavily covered with elemental attack areas and don't forget to spam MoC -Overawe, every 3 second. Finally, reel in your victims by the use of CS -Implosion and pinpoint an almost dead target with EP -The Flesh is Weak to decimate everything within its vicinity.

Vital Statistics by the courtesy of d3up.
Summary
Weapons = A high fear factor of 17.5% + osRuby Echoing Fury (MH) and ls + osEmerald Won Kim Lau (OH)
DPS = 255k
EHP = 622k

Notes:
1) How to handle RD with 2.9% ls and 352 LoH? Just simply move WKL over to MH and swap in a 34% block + cc StormShield ...insignificant problem is solved!

2) I've tried Fists of Thunder -Quickening to generate sufficient spirit to spam the combo of CS -Implosion and Wave of Light but something isn't right!

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Sep 26 2013, 09:35 AM
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post Sep 26 2013, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Sep 25 2013, 12:21 PM)
Dapat 1.8B, so quite happy with the deal. Gives me 9.5k dps more. So close to hitting 300k dps unbuffed now.

My current stat .. just short 3k only :

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/electro...jrwqsv/29983850
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QUOTE(present me @ Sep 25 2013, 02:28 PM)
simple however using single weapon LS cant handle RD even u had700k EHP, pls go for dual LS weapon v 600k EHP sure save ....

mine monk SNOWWHITE just only 540K EHP v 4.8%LS 313k dps unbuff I can facing all kind of mob ,if u hav similar EHP v dual LS% sufficient to attend any RD mob..

if u using  S&B build normally go high dodge proper.. but APS%abit slow ....
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damn! so many dual LS with such high DPS! sweat.gif Deckard Cain free of OWE somemore sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Sep 25 2013, 12:35 PM)
Feel free to critique both the active and passive skills of my monk's latest build called EFearsomeWKLFist as follow;-

Active Skills
1. Fists of Thunder -Thunderclap
2. Dashing Strike -Quicksilver
3. Breath of Heaven -Infused with Light
4. Mantra of Conviction -Overawe
5. Cyclone Strike -Implosion
6. Sweeping Wind -Cyclone

Passive Skills
1. Exalted Soul
2. Seize the Initiative
3. Pacifism

Gameplay
Activate DS -Quicksilver then followed by SW -Cyclone and perform BoH -IwL instantly. FoT -Thunderclap made it so easy to stick with your constantly feared target to get out of the heavily covered with elemental attack areas and don't forget to spam MoC -Overawe, every 3 second. Finally, reel in your victims by the use of CS -Implosion.

Vital Statistics by the courtesy of d3up
Summary
Weapons = A high fear factor of 17.5% + osRuby Echoing Fury (MH) and ls + osEmerald Won Kim Lau (OH)
DPS = 228k
EHP = 618k

Notes:
How to handle RD with 2.9% ls and 352 LoH? Just simply move WKL over to MH and swap in a 34% block + cc StormShield ...insignificant problem is solved!
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Strange combination of skill. Would be nice to see you in action in video. Swapping weapon does not seem to be very fun thing to do... with DS, i bet you just DS away and wait till RD is off...

i could be wrong, but i think you will have too much spirit. Your usage Quicksilver and Infuse with Light gain you a lot of Spirit, but your only spirit spender just MoC and Implosion. Guess you need to spam those a lot, remind me of CM Wiz... hmm.gif

the setup could be fun in large crowd... but without burst damage, dealing with Elite, probably not as fun... especially those with RD, sheild...

in my opinion, Cyclone strike which has excellent crowd control and mostly remain stationary in a place best with dual LS. if u need to run around too much to avoid poison, lava.... EDPS gets lower...

ps: again, Ruby on main hand but not spamming bell is kindna wasted... FoT, Sweeping wind plus those little cyclone also benefit from Emerald cdmg...

This post has been edited by cowithgun: Sep 26 2013, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Sep 25 2013, 11:11 PM)
2) I've tried Fists of Thunder -Quickening to generate sufficient spirit to spam the combo of CS -Implosion and Wave of Light but something isn't right!
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Bold part, you don't teleport anymore? hmm.gif
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