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post Sep 26 2013, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Sep 26 2013, 01:28 PM)
hopefully can la.. atleast maintain current glove with additional vit on it.. tongue.gif
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can keep current glove first and wait for the re-roll attributes patch.. laugh.gif
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post Sep 26 2013, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Sep 26 2013, 01:35 PM)
RD+Health Link (with any affix) the best
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you forget to put PLague, Freeze + MOlten..hahaha
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QUOTE(dreaming @ Sep 26 2013, 01:45 PM)
can keep current glove first and wait for the re-roll attributes patch.. laugh.gif
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can reroll the wasted magic find stat..hahaa
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post Sep 26 2013, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Sep 26 2013, 01:23 PM)
The 1st week mmg sakit hati lar but life goes on. It happened so what to do.
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huh.. sorry to hear that brother.. sweat.gif
and yes, life goes on rclxms.gif
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post Sep 26 2013, 02:02 PM

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post Sep 26 2013, 05:59 PM

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Dear Moba,

The stats u see now is my second monk. I have aplvl100 monk which I have about 575k ehp @250k pDPS (from different ring and purp helm)

Of course EHP needs to be raised in tandem..but it all about balance..because any excess EHP is useless as it just sits there unlike eDPS. RD is the check point for mitigation. And I agree with you, there is no need to get 1M EhP for MP10 RD @ 400k buffed DPS.

My point is that you need to kite. DSQ is used to kite and I do know how to DS but I don't use it for this monk. DS- immune during the period when you dash..hence..if you time it right , you can even miss ice bombs. When RD pulses, just DS away as you are immune during dashing.

It doesn't really matter on the attack speed (unless you use LoH) we are strictly on LS here because the more you hit, the more it is reflected. Further, EF is actually loss on eDPS as when you fear the mob, the more time you have to chase up and kill the fella. Hence that is why I avoid EF as much as possible. In HC lain cerita la..EF's fear is soooooo good.







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post Sep 26 2013, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Sep 26 2013, 05:59 PM)
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Dear Moba,

The stats u see now is my second monk. I have  aplvl100 monk which I have about 575k ehp @250k pDPS (from different ring and purp helm)

Of course EHP needs to be raised in tandem..but it all about balance..because any excess EHP is useless as it just sits there unlike eDPS.  RD is the check point for mitigation. And I agree with you, there is no need to get 1M EhP for MP10 RD @ 400k buffed DPS.

My point is that you need to kite. DSQ is used to kite and I do know how to DS but I don't use it for this monk. DS- immune during the period when you dash..hence..if you time it right , you can even miss ice bombs. When RD pulses, just DS away as you are immune during dashing.

It doesn't really matter on the attack speed (unless you use LoH) we are strictly on LS here because the more you hit, the more it is reflected. Further, EF is actually  loss on eDPS as when you fear the mob, the more time you have to chase up and kill the fella. Hence that is why I avoid EF as much as possible. In HC lain cerita la..EF's fear is soooooo good.
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i think many of them are so use to other classes where they can face tank everything.
if want to face tank everything in monk with < 300k range dps, dual LS / single LS + high LOH are needed definitely. single LS, maybe >300k perhaps? hmm.gif

btw, i tried DS before but not so use to it, always DS to tree poison or plague and dead. need to practise more tho.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(dreaming @ Sep 26 2013, 08:00 PM)
pro man...  thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif
i think many of them are so use to other classes where they can face tank everything.
if want to face tank everything in monk with < 300k range dps, dual LS / single LS + high LOH are needed definitely. single LS, maybe >300k perhaps? hmm.gif

btw, i tried DS before but not so use to it, always DS to tree poison or plague and dead. need to practise more tho..  sweat.gif
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DS is advanced dashing... if u use to it very well, u can ply (out of control) those mob will lost focus on u.... need more seminar....: D
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post Sep 26 2013, 08:47 PM

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Correct me if I'm wrong but does bell build damage base on holy% damage and avg damage instead of CD?
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post Sep 26 2013, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Sep 26 2013, 08:47 PM)
Correct me if I'm wrong but does bell build damage base on holy% damage and avg damage instead of CD?
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Both average dmg & CD%. the IAS% is not too important as far as A BELL is concern, hence this is where a 2mil screen damage Skorn shine!
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post Sep 26 2013, 11:30 PM

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erm guys, need your kind opinion here...
my current monk's gear...
currently playing at MP3...any gear that i can improve on so can survive considerably at MP5-8?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/AnoHika...7/hero/16829355
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post Sep 26 2013, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Sep 26 2013, 01:12 PM)
Yeah!!! i won't have that much time soon. Will be so busy. Furthermore my laptop and gaming pc all burn recently when my house on fire. So now I can only play in my shop. Night time now, sleep lor

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sorry to hear that...

QUOTE(KayK @ Sep 26 2013, 11:30 PM)
erm guys, need your kind opinion here...
my current monk's gear...
currently playing at MP3...any gear that i can improve on so can survive considerably at MP5-8?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/AnoHika...7/hero/16829355
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your EHP (427,989.15) is more than enough for MP5-8. what you need to Life Steal. Get a 3% LS, you are good to go. 1000 LoH is good too, but LS is more useful as you move beyond 100k DPS in future.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 26 2013, 10:16 PM)
Both average dmg & CD%. the IAS% is not too important as far as A BELL is concern, hence this is where a 2mil screen damage Skorn shine!
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Bell rely on MH average dmg right... Plus the cc cd dex to get the total avg dmg per bell
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post Sep 27 2013, 05:19 AM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Sep 27 2013, 02:01 AM)
Bell rely on MH average dmg right... Plusmultiply the cc cd dex to get the total avg dmg per bell
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bingo! (fixed)

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post Sep 27 2013, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Sep 26 2013, 11:45 PM)
your EHP (427,989.15) is more than enough for MP5-8. what you need to Life Steal. Get a 3% LS, you are good to go. 1000 LoH is good too, but LS is more useful as you move beyond 100k DPS in future.
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thanks for the suggestion, will be on the look out for items with higher LS...
will try out MP5 - 8 later this weekend and see how it goes...hopefully can withstand those elites... smile.gif
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post Sep 27 2013, 09:13 AM

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Feel free to critique both the active and passive skills of my monk's latest build called EFearlessWKLFist V1.0 as follow;-

Active Skills
1. Fists of Thunder -Quickening
2. Dashing Strike -Blinding Speed
3. Wave of Light -Pillar of the Ancients
4. Mantra of Conviction -Overawe
5. Cyclone Strike -Implosion
6. Sweeping Wind -Cyclone

Passive Skills
1. Exalted Soul
2. Seize the Initiative
3. Pacifism

Gameplay
Activate DS -Blinding Speed then followed by SW -Cyclone. FoT -Quickening is the spirit generator engine and don't forget to spam MoC -Overawe, every 3 second. Finally, reel in your victims by the use of CS -Implosion and plant the bell to decimate everything within its vicinity, every 1 second.

Vital Statistics by the courtesy of d3up.
Summary
Weapons = A low fear factor of 10.2%, decent ChD + osRuby Echoing Fury (MH) and ls + osEmerald Won Kim Lau (OH)

pDPS = ~234.5k
EHP = ~709.9k
Attacks per Second = 2.58 (MH) & 2.93 (OH)
Armor = ~5.2k
All Resist = ~675
Total Dmg Reduction = ~91.6%
Hp = ~59.5k
Life Steal = 2.9%
LoH = 352

Notes
1) Special mention or Credit goes to ALeUNe for as quoted (see below) henceforth as a result, gave birth to a unique build called EFearlessWKLFists V1.0;-
QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 25 2013, 03:18 PM)
You are using 1 active skill + 1 passive skill for spirit generation.
IMO, it is not really effective because you can free some skill slots for burst damage skill like WoL or passive like NDE & OWE.
(defensive attributes of OWE will help you in coping RD elites).

Try replace FoT/Thunderclap with Quickening.
It should give you enough spirit generation.
With quickening, you should be able to spam your 1xWoL or 2xCyclone Strike every second.

But you need to get used to skill like FoT/Quickening as you don't teleport anymore.
As you use Cyclone Strike, you don't need to "stick" to the mobs since you pull the mobs to you.
Moreover, you're using Dashing Strike, you don't need teleport from FoT/Thunderclap. 

WoL & Cyclone Strike combo is awesome.

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2) Special mention or Credit goes to yuhhaur for as quoted (see below) therefore Resolve was substituted by Exalted Soul;-
QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 23 2013, 10:30 AM)
MOBAJOBG, don't use Resolve. It only affect those you hit and because FoT had Crowd control and able to interrupt & you kill so fast, it does not benefit much. With the high APS, you can use:
1. Exalted Soul to store the extra spirit - Synergy
2. NDE - defense

With DS & Pacifism in place, you can drop Serenity for Blinding Flash-FITL - Offensive
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3) I'd replaced the Inna's Temperance from double Dex and Vit to AR version. The result is a facetanking monk (with the ability to recoup hp from 2.9% ls + 352 LoH) that can take on all affixes whatsoever.


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This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Sep 27 2013, 12:55 PM
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post Sep 27 2013, 10:37 AM

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If bell is your main dmg spammer then mh use ruby is better since bell dmg is based on avg mh dmg
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post Sep 27 2013, 12:04 PM

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wow ! nice build ! gotta try it tonite !
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post Sep 27 2013, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 26 2013, 10:16 PM)
Both average dmg & CD%. the IAS% is not too important as far as A BELL is concern, hence this is where a 2mil screen damage Skorn shine!
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Yeah i'm just testing it out with CD or High Average damage combo and see what the damage is. So far my axe is so satisfying to use for bell. Dash strike, quickening and bell spam is just farming like a boss all the way.
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post Sep 27 2013, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Sep 27 2013, 09:13 AM)
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You've got good EHP. thumbup.gif
Time to buff your DPS to a new level.

I believe FoT/Quickening alone should give you enough spirit for spamming your WoL & CS.
So, you may drop passive/Exalted Soul.
Replace it with passive/combination strike.

Drop dashing strike and use deadly reach/foresight.

Passive/combination strike + deadly reach/foresight will give you 34% DPS buff (before MoC).
With the DPS buff, all of your skills will get a huge boost.

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