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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Driver's Thread! V27, all the older sifus went MIA liao :(

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post Aug 14 2013, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Aug 14 2013, 12:06 PM)
Wahhhh... V27 thread edi. Kudos to Quazacolt for taking care SIE thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(yewwing @ Aug 14 2013, 12:23 PM)
eh just notice V27 already, reporting in..hahaha
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post Aug 14 2013, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(yewkuan6891 @ Aug 14 2013, 12:52 PM)
Hi Megadisc, I'm having the same situation with you. Having spring (stock spring) and Comfortable type absorber (Monroe) replaced, I can only feel there's very little improvement.  cry.gif

I was thinking if the cushion buffer could help in bumpy road?
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it does help to an extend. if you're up on using those, for the front i suggest using 2 x4 for both sides, rear suggestive, personally not a lot of difference placing on the rear.

reason being your front is way heavier than the rear, and it'll take the most impact upon hitting pot holes/bumps/irregularities earlier than the rear and you would typically slowed down enough for the rear to matter much at all.
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post Aug 15 2013, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(Rash_ @ Aug 15 2013, 06:58 PM)
Da foreman check da wiring oso..when he troubleshoot da lampu bernyala..as in he short da wires near da tank da indicators lights up.... N he said no problem... Bt the problem still thr le..
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the new meter problem or connection towards the meter problem.
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post Aug 15 2013, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(ILikePie @ Aug 11 2013, 06:30 PM)
DIY can also, stand infront the car, loosen the 2 bolts holding the distributor,  then move inwards to retard, outwards to advance ignition timing. Do it bit by bit. Remember to tighten back once adjusted. Do some marking before u pusing or if u dowan mark oso can  laugh.gif
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bro, how do you test and confirm for pinging/knocking? what kinda harm to the engine are we looking at if ping/knocking occurs?
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post Aug 15 2013, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(ILikePie @ Aug 15 2013, 09:27 PM)
kasi the engine some load. i did 40-50 km/h on 4th and from there i listen for any pinging sounds. from spark plug oso can estimate my timing. learnt from here. i don have equipments like timing light and no cash to dyno as i like so i try and try again laugh.gif
i know its harmful, i guess to the pistons and valves? still fresh, not much knowledge. need ask sifoo sinister_sid  icon_idea.gif  brows.gif
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because my mech told me maxed for ron95 liao (so far no knocking la), tell me dun greedy, but i still kinda wanna push it sweat.gif

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post Aug 16 2013, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(poolcarpet @ Aug 16 2013, 09:32 AM)
You really need a timing light for this. Adjust it, take note then test. Last time I experimented and set too advanced, even light acceleration results in pinging. Quickly adjusted timing back. Also tried the other end, retard timing, and engine felt so sluggish  blink.gif
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eh everyone's been telling me no need timing light sad.gif

well this morning gave some test, flat roads can accelerate 160-170++ no problem while prior it'll struggle a little. i suppose after the accident early this year when they refitted the new distributor they didn't bother adjusting it properly and just went "full retard" (pun pretty f***ing much intended)
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post Aug 16 2013, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(poolcarpet @ Aug 16 2013, 12:20 PM)
Well, i'm a science kinda person. If you can't measure it, you can't tell for sure. Remember my butt dyno statements last time? tongue.gif

If i'm not wrong, 4g13 timing is about 5 ± 2 BTDC @ 800 ± 100 RPM (googled this info). Verify with the sticker on the hood and this is the base to start with. With a timing light, you can check and adjust accurately, perhaps to 7 BTDC and see how it goes. If it pings, then reduce to 6 or even 5 if necessary. Otherwise, take a risk and push it to 8 and beyond, but always always listen out for pinging otherwise it's gonna be an expensive diy tuning tongue.gif
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expensive? how much these lights cost anyways?
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post Aug 16 2013, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(poolcarpet @ Aug 16 2013, 01:05 PM)
No idea... Pinjam one last time smile.gif

I looked around and saw this ad
http://www.lelong.com.my/inductive-xenon-t...7-01-Sale-I.htm

Maybe if you have enough kaki, share the cost and everyone can meet up and diy self tuning tongue.gif if you get 17 people, each one pay rm10 only tongue.gif
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i see much thanks for the info! biggrin.gif
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post Aug 17 2013, 04:48 AM

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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Aug 17 2013, 04:46 AM)
meh, dad sourced the parts by himself when i go raya at Steno's house. so can't swap i guess sweat.gif

anyway, i dont think 4g13p can couple with 4 speeder auto from 4g92 right?
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not very sure, even if can, may be potentially under powered depending on how the ratios are configured
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post Aug 18 2013, 08:31 PM

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lol had ron97 + octane boosters and ignition advanced... even on flat terrain NKVE it can go up to ~170 on meter (x3.4% should be ~175 on GPS/actual) and slight slope i see meter almost touching 180km/h laugh.gif

was at about 6.8-6.9k rpm... just about 20-30seconds of full throttle i can see my car temperature rising lolz!

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Second last again, not last woot rofl http://twitpic.com/d8xvi2
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post Aug 20 2013, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(Notoriez @ Aug 19 2013, 02:21 PM)
Guess whose car is this.

Involved in Speed Fest yesterday hehe

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=566...&type=1&theater
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post Aug 20 2013, 07:14 PM

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added Chubby girl to owner list biggrin.gif
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post Aug 20 2013, 10:21 PM

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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=62614864 another write up on the Yokohama Advan Neova AD08R

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eh review on speedfest experience put on hold a bit, work etc, lacking time to write lol.

anyways yesterday was on the turn in towards duta flyover from jln kucing (it'll pass by solaris dutamas with all the government buildings/quarters etc)

as i was speeding around 100-110km/h approaching the sharp'ish corner (most stock standard car can easily go through that corner at that speeds while still maintaining on a single lane) the vehicle in front was a little slow so i had to hard brake a bit (unable to overtake too as both lanes are occupied pretty much, and it'll be left lane overtaking which is wrong anyways) and somewhat expected, warning signs/instincts popped up that my rear's about to slide.

funnily enough, instead of cadence braking and counter steering back to slow down + straighten the car, i instead had the gut feeling to check my side/rear mirrors, confirmed that the whole 2 lanes are clear. at this point, it's as if the tires are telling me: "this is nothing, keep going!" and so, i listened - gradually increased the throttle, the rear swings out further, and i'm basically going side ways with my car occupying 2 lanes and i'm looking ahead at my passenger side's a-pillar.

this only lasted a short mere 3-5 seconds or less, at around 90km/h or so, but DAMN the adrenaline rush!
as i slided further on the left lane (again, that fly over only have 2 lanes), the car on that lane is faster than the car on the right where i was initially at when i started to slide and was pulling away leaving a gap between himself and car on the right lane.
in the end i basically slide out to the left lane, and counter steered myself to straighten the car as i cut in to the right lane finally exiting the fly over into duta highway.

that was just... fun. REALLY FUN!
even until the next day (today as i am writing this) i couldn't believe what i have done and it was a pity i did not have it all recorded down. even unbelievable was that the confidence that was instilled within me, it would have never happen EVER on other tires even on the Achilles 123 semi slicks i used to had.

thinking further it could be actually scary, as it's probably a matter of time before i got too over confident and got myself burned for it sad.gif
well, let's hope that is not the case then sweat.gif

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post Aug 23 2013, 03:18 AM

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QUOTE(BroSP @ Aug 22 2013, 11:15 PM)
thanks bro. quite expensive. is it possible if i buying insurance for winscreen now? or wait till my current insurance expired. expired in october
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if the insurance sending inspection for your addition of windscreen, then no. else, no problem, however wait a while before claiming to not raise suspicion
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post Aug 23 2013, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(poolcarpet @ Aug 23 2013, 08:45 AM)
If it's cracked already, then you should NOT CHEAT and buy insurance now to claim. You know why cost of insurance is going up and up? because of fraudulent claims. Sorry not trying to be all righteous or whatever, but I get very agitated when people complain about cost of insurance going up, or when corruption happens but yet ordinary rakyat will think of trying to cheat/bribe for little things. It starts with the little things!!!! In any case, if you add on windscreen insurance, companies will want to take photo/inspect your windscreen (guess why, thanks to fraudulent claims!!!)

I didn't have my notes with me yesterday, but I checked and the cost is this:

RM320 laminated incl. installation about 1 hour
MG AUTO WINDSCREEN SDN BHD

This is just one shop, there are many more just make some effort to call and ask.

Alternatively, there are so many shops that do windscreen repair for less than RM100 if it's a small crack/chip. Go survey and find out ,there is one in SS2 main road, Glass Mechanic, I've used this shop before and repairs to a 4" long crack is still good after so many years now (3 or 4 I can't remember). E.g. look at this blog -> http://www.bhauto.my/retak-cermin-boleh-diperbaiki/

All the best, sorry if my rant offended some.
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i do agree with your rant/post and none offense taken. i insure windscreen every year (rock magnet, sigh) anyways and i am reluctant to claim because my huper optik is more expensive (500+ lol) than the glass itself ROFL

umm not sure on the windscreen, however original proton FWS cost around 300 liao, labor definitely wont be 20. (after labor ~400)
up to an individual if they want to stick with ori or not la XD
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post Aug 23 2013, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(poolcarpet @ Aug 23 2013, 04:05 PM)
I did ask for ori proton, and that was the price quoted to me. Anyway, prob need to ask around.
For the same reason as you, i repaired my windscreen rather than replace (not on this proton, other car). Even if insurance cover the windscreen, unfortunately to retint would cost another big bomb. Vkool elite.
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post Aug 23 2013, 04:39 PM

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eh guys,

how many turns you can do on your steering wheel until it locks from neutral straight position? mine only 1.5 rounds and lock, wafak? that kinda explains the damn bullshit turn radius :/
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post Aug 24 2013, 03:28 AM

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QUOTE(Albert B @ Aug 23 2013, 10:57 PM)
Same as mine. neutral to lock = 1.5, so "lock-to-lock" is 2 x 1.5 = 3.0 is about average.
If you google "steering lock-to-lock" it varys from 2.2 to 3.3.
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well i just tested another iswara, 2.2-2.5 ish.
damn. i need to do something about my steering rack/turn radius :/
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QUOTE(Albert B @ Aug 24 2013, 07:41 AM)
2.2 - 2.5 that means lock-to-lock is 4.4 to 5.0 ???
How does the CV joint & boots take this angle?
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no idea rofl... i've asked a few other people, they also said its around 2-2.5 from neutral to lock.

QUOTE(Albert B @ Aug 24 2013, 09:33 AM)
I checked an Iswara and find that it has more turns lock-to-lock (4.5) than LMST (3.0), which corresponds to your findings of 2.2 and 1.5 .

LMST has power steering whereas Iswara is not. Maybe the steering rack/pinion is designed so that  non-power steering uses smaller pinion gear to distribute the turning effort over more turns, and the end result is the same steering angle at the tyre for both Iswara & LMST?

May have to measure the actual rack movement (stroke) to confirm this.
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so the power steering has something to do with it!
mine is an iswara full spec auto with power steering while davidke (aiya dunno unker choy LYN ID) dares kenjiliew the iswara we tested should be a LMST (or maybe iswara?) without power steering.

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post Aug 24 2013, 06:42 PM

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sad my regular workshop taking forever to stock up on lubegard platinum, i'll have to deal with the shitty shifts for yet another week. 1 more week la then i source from elsewhere liao mad.gif

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