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post May 5 2008, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(spikeee @ Apr 28 2008, 04:17 PM)
kcng - another thing i do is to play like Elias (argentina futsal keeper)

whenever the opportunity calls for it, i will open up as a 5th outfield player and take long shots (rarely dribble)

BUT during defending corners, when i catch the ball, i go for the quick release and i make a sprint/run and they usually pass me the ball, i can dribble a little because their players are not down yet, and that way, i keep my mind on the game at all times.

seriously, a good sweat-out is good for concentration
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While the concept of the keeper as the 5th outfield player is good, it's only a concept. Unless the team's leading 2 or 3 goals up or trailing with 'lil time left; it's very unlikely that most coaches would encourage the keeper to come out because in futsal; quick powerful long range shots are very common.

However; if you only limit yourself to long shots and only do it when the opposite team is camping in their own half; then it's not a bad idea, as some variety's always good in opening up tight defense. But coming out with the ball to start a quick attack is really not a very good idea since futsal is played in such a tight space; a small mistake will normally have dreadful consequences. Thus goalies coming out with the ball is quite rare in tournaments and even professional leagues. Coaches would rather sub the keeper with a pure outfield player who can double as the keeper rather than have the keeper play outfield.


Added on May 5, 2008, 1:52 pm
QUOTE(tenno @ May 5 2008, 01:03 PM)
kcng : That was exactly what I did last Saturday. I played in a friendly, won 3-0, but it was a pretty easy game actually. My jersey nvr got dirty & I touched the ball like 3 times the whole 2nd half which I played, all were back passes. So, although it was a very lousy game, I decided to help out my team & play in the league, it's only for three months anyway. The game on Thursday was a better one to gauge my form, & it was good as I only let in 2 goals (normally would be like 7-8 goals, typical in evening games with scores going up to 10-12).
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Good luck man; sounds like you're well on your way back into the game. Hope it goes well for you. Sometimes we all need a break to freshen up.


Added on May 5, 2008, 9:27 pmI'll probably be going shopping @ Prodirect at end of May; anyone interested to tumpang?

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post May 19 2008, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ May 19 2008, 07:20 PM)
Guys, what is the difference between turf and flat surface shoes?

I need a new pair of shoes as my old ones crocodile already, and I'm looking at a pair of turfs.


Added on May 19, 2008, 7:24 pm
You guys play in Klang? i might just join in since I live here biggrin.gif

Can go and get goalkeeping tips from you  notworthy.gif
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Turf shoes are meant for turf and cement. Playing them on carpet, terraflex or any other surface would mean too much grip and cause injuries when you're turning. Brown flat surface shoes are meant for carpet, terraflex and the opposite of turf. Playing them on turf, cement and the wrong type of surface would mean too 'lil grip and slippery. Most just buy brown since they're more versatile.

How would you rate your playing level and which day do you want to play? I play fridays and sundays in Klang. If you're interested and don't mind playing high tempo levels and games, PM me for the details.

I doubt I'm that good to have tips for you though. icon_question.gif

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post May 20 2008, 01:02 AM

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erm; what's that supposed to mean?
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post May 20 2008, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ May 20 2008, 03:06 AM)
Which part of Klang do you play in? The Roof? I'm not sure how I would rate my game tempo, I'm playing every Tuesday with a bunch of young and uncles, I'm playing every Thursday with a younger audience that is certainly higher tempo. If you are interested you can come along for my sessions as well, though I must admit I doubt they are really good players.
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We play @ the roof on Sundays, Port Klang Futsal Center on Fridays. Hmm; tuesday sounds interesting, where do you play and what time? I'm looking for a session to join on tuesdays actually.

Lemme know if you're interested.


Added on May 20, 2008, 2:13 pm
QUOTE(tenno @ May 20 2008, 08:05 AM)
Played my first game in the Rawang League last Sunday. Drew 0-0 with a team comprising mostly of schoolboys. My forwards & midfielders were a disappointment, one midfielder even managed to get himself sent off after only being on the field for 20 mins. We were expecting to win our first game to boost morale, but the opposite happened. The very, very bad pitch didn't help of course. I didn't have much to do, not even a basic save. Just picking up loose balls. Only one dangerous situation, when one of their midfielders beat our offside trap & was clear, one on one with me. He tried to lob the ball on top of me but it was too high. Other than that, nothing.

The next game we're gonna be up against a Police side, so I'll be expecting a tough time, perhaps even picking up the ball from my own net more than once. Not being pessimistic, just being realistic. But I'm quite happy with my form nowadays. Felt pretty good.  rclxms.gif
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tenno,

Good to hear that. A break's always good once in a while. rclxms.gif

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post May 22 2008, 03:05 PM

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PMed you.
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post Jun 9 2008, 04:00 PM

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Alright guys,

Myself and Howard are planning to organize a weekly training session for FUTSAL goalies; doing drills which are readily available online or improvised. We can arrange for most of the equipment but the main drawback we face now is a court to train in.

We've tentatively agreed for HTO's really small court which would be suitable for 2 of us; but ideally; larger courts will offer a much much better training. Therefore; I would like to ask whether there's anyone out here interested? I can lead the training; but I do not have a CV of any kind nor any kind of coaching experience; just been playing futsal GK for 'bout 6 years. And the passion.

We need committed GKs who're willing to train weekly consistently. Tetatively the plan is as such:

8.30 - 9.30 PM
Every Tuesdays
Location: HTO Subang Jaya worse comes to worst.

We need COMMITTED ppl; interested please PM me. Thanks.

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post Jun 23 2008, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(tenno @ Jun 23 2008, 11:19 AM)
Overpriced ? Hmm... hmm.gif

Fingertip Replique E5S (my current favorite) goes for about RM110 in Pertama. Maybe U can get for around RM100 la. Fingertip replique E6S from Prodirect is 19.99 pounds, around RM128. & that's is minus shipping. Not really overpriced I think. But I'll be the first to admit Malaysian market lacks choices. & there's simply not enuff demand. Nobody wanted (or even knew) about Sells gloves in Malaysia, so no importer la.

But then again, if U have money ... just go for it la.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Actually tenno; I've begun to realise that the Adidas Replique family is mostly rubbish; for me larr tongue.gif . Build quality is awful. You're right that some of the models they stock here tend to be cheaper than those sold online; but not all. The v-konstrukt I bought is example of that. RM300 for something I got online for RM180 with shipping is daylight robbery man.

Good to hear you're back in the game. tongue.gif

As for Sells; wait till you see my newest babies past 'couple of months. I've been busy. flex.gif biggrin.gif Lemme give you a teaser though; it's got the words "D30" in it. tongue.gif


Added on June 23, 2008, 12:10 pm
QUOTE(tenno @ Jun 23 2008, 12:05 PM)
What I meant was there's nobody wants to bring in Sells gloves, no importer la. Of course for those who knows, Sells is one of the best. I also wanted Sells gloves, but I'm quite happy with what I have now. Also, I'm not a fan of FPS gloves, to me they're heavy & restrictive. I'm an old school keeper. Minimalist glove like Fingertip Replique works fine for me. I guess I'ma stick to the Fingertip line for now, unless I can find other roll finger gloves, like Puma King.
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You're a football goalie. Pro somemore. Not like us puny futsal goalies. Shots hurt. cry.gif I don't mind the extra weight and the weaknesses of FS gloves for the extra protection plus the ability to keep my fingers. tongue.gif

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post Jun 23 2008, 12:39 PM

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Well; FPS gloves are real fingersavers; especially for me. I've got long-term injuries in almost 80% of my fingers. I wear FPS gloves and volleyball fingerguards while they recover.

The lotto pretty much sucks for futsal on anything other than turf. One dive and you'll see latex flying. Been on a non-temptation drive? heh. tongue.gif

Anyway; nahh, think I've given up on football. Knees can't stand it. As it is; I'm feeling old with 4 futsal sessions /week and 1 training day / week.
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post Jun 23 2008, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(Howard @ Jun 23 2008, 11:44 AM)
You need to calculate the "price exclude VAT" for overseas purchase @ prodirectsoccer.com .  biggrin.gif

yes, indeed, malaysian market lacks choices... I'm totally fed up and hence I opted for online store, which there are plenty of choices i can browse around, I spent about 3 hours in browsing for gloves in my previous order...  sweat.gif

my current favorite is Adidas Fingersave Alround E6s... very comfy and it comes with 6mm ultra soft latex, durability is very good as well, used it for about 5 matches still no wear & tear, except there's a slight wear on the finger part, got stepped on by a striker yesterday... mad.gif  cry.gif

No body wanted Sells gloves? glozz got a few of them...  tongue.gif
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I've been introducing Howard to alot of poison involving buying gloves. tongue.gif Howard's 'bit emo 'bout local glove selection 'cause i think he bought like 9 local gloves before being introduced to the poison and realised that local glove selections do not give good value compared to online selections. tongue.gif
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Hmm; speaking of which. I've already got the 2008 Uhlsport Cerberus Supportframe Soft. It's quite a remarkable glove; I must say. I'm quite impressed. The foam's quite durable for a soft glove as well. Want a peek? tongue.gif

Anyway; I intend to send 'couple of my FS gloves down to Germany in 1-2 months to be repaired as I've heard of a company there that does latex replacement and other modifications to gloves. You can choose and customize what you want tone.

Feeling like an old man eh? heh. tongue.gif

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post Jun 24 2008, 12:41 AM

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Ermm; at last count I think I've got like 11 FS gloves that can be used; 2 on the sidelines waiting to be sent for repair. Repair costs are not cheap though.

Check it out:

http://www.pimp-my-gloves.de/

Glove maintenance? Ermm; wash with mild soap (Fab buku) and water, rinse and dry indoors away from heat sources.


Added on June 24, 2008, 12:43 am
QUOTE(Howard @ Jun 23 2008, 01:10 PM)
In futsal, any kind of injuries you could imagine is always POSSIBLE.  shakehead.gif

A fren of mine almost had his finger broken while goalkeeping... he was trying to catch a high ball when a striker attempts to head the ball into the net, when the striker jumps, he causes the GK lost balance and the ball hit his ring finger directly and causes hyperextension, you can almost see the bone joint coming out between the finger and the palm... i almost had phobia on this and was thinking to quit futsal...  unsure.gif  sweat.gif

Personally I also had quite a number of finger injuries that stopped me from playing for a couple of weeks... ever since i realised there are gloves with fingersave feature, i stopped purchasing non-fs gloves. I'd rather spend a hundred bucks more for better protection... rather than losing my fingers due to some hero-wannabe strikers... which is not worth it at all...  shakehead.gif

glozz, you're still young lah... i thought u wanted to be like an old fren of yours that is about 40+yo but yet still very fit and agile...  brows.gif

you are quite there already, stop giving yourself excuses...  icon_rolleyes.gif  laugh.gif
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Hah; tell me 'bout injuries man. Such is life lorr. Just have to be careful. icon_question.gif

Finger injuries are quite normal lorr; that's why it's quite important to build proper catching technique while you're quite young and the fingers are still quite flexible.

The guy I was talking 'bout is 'bout 50+ liao. I think I'm a long way from there. hehe. Slowly though. Now much better compared to 1 year ago though. rclxms.gif

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post Jun 24 2008, 01:32 AM

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Ermm; all the gloves I buy; I use; or keep as spares 'cause I really like 'em. Nothing is for show. tongue.gif

Rotate most of them; so, try to use 'em quite 'bit.
I started playing GK when I started playing soccer; 'bout 15 years ago. Retired from soccer when I tore my knee ligament; but got back into Futsal 'bout 6 years ago.
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post Jun 24 2008, 09:49 AM

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Football GKs always find futsal a diff cup of tea. I was fortunate that back when I was playing football; we used hockey goalposts to play for fun. Thus I actually got used to futsal; even though we were actually playing on a football ground.
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What made you switch? I used to be able to play defender as well; but can't run nowadays due to my knee problem.
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post Jul 4 2008, 06:08 PM

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Well; the last time I played defender in futsal; I lost the ball AND my leg. tongue.gif
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I'm not that heavy. Besides; you voluntered. tongue.gif
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Just a quick update:

We've changed our training days to the following CONFIRMED days each month:

Thursday
8ish to 10ish PM
(min 1 hour 30 mins, max depends on num of GKs)

Alternate Sundays
(4ish to 6) PM
(Same deal as thursday)

Location is as usual; Subang Racquet and golf center. As usual; please note that this is not a coaching session, we only do assisted training. Now we're currently implementing professional brazilian futsal GK training drills and adapted methods.

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post Sep 22 2008, 01:23 PM

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Anyone wants Adidas FS Alround? Retails for RM350-ish in Malaysia, but can get for about RM300. Lemme know.
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post Sep 29 2008, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(zeneyam @ Sep 29 2008, 06:41 PM)
hai everyone there,im new to join this thread...hehe.i kind of suddenly love to play as a keeper role...but everytime i play,my knee,ankle is bleeding..what to buy to protect my skin when i am playing futsal ?thanks !  goalie the best!!
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There's nothing you can do to fully protect yourself from scrapes except to perfect the technique.
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post Nov 7 2008, 09:42 PM

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Yepp; you noticed. rclxms.gif Fit your size? BTW, I just celebrated the depreciation of the Pound Sterling by buying 2 pairs of these from PDS:

http://www.great-save.com/f6Xowk1132950/Go...ry/p-6-91-1593/

Got them and a pair of shinpads at a steal for RM400ish including shipping. Hasn't arrived yet though.

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