To be honest; I don't see the point of those gloves. You might as well just not be wearing gloves. Would give you better feel of the ball.

But having gloves with open fingers is not going to help with anything; so why even bother wearing it? Furthermore; they're not exactly cheaper than the normal ones.

To be honest; most goalie keeping training at the early stage involves bare hands. It's important to get the technique right before gloves are worn; so as not to be dependant on them. Broken fingers and painful palms are normally the effect of bad hand technique; or bad luck. Correction of hand techniques early would ultimately reduce these occurences.

Injuries happen even with gloves. If you find yourself playing worse without gloves on; you probably need to re-examine your hand technique. Without proper hand technique; gloves are worthless. Very easy test; wet the ball and try to have a firm grasp on the ball with your bare hands while swinging your hands as if to throw it away and see how well the ball clings on. That would give you an indication of how effective is your catching technique.

Gloves are just a supplement and a tool. It's not meant to replace technique. I myself just bought a T90 Spyne Pro for matchday uses; after playing futsal(minimum once a week) for almost 6 years now without wearing gloves. Still waiting for my first match to test it out.

This post has been edited by glozz: Jul 10 2007, 10:02 AM

Understand and must have been fun eh. However; open palm gloves are "neither here nor there" kind of gloves. Absorption's just so-so while hand protection's minimal if compared to a full glove. However; I can understand why some goalkeepers prefer open fingered gloves; normally because they're used to bare-handed playing and some tournamets force goalies to have gloves. Which is why my opinion is formed based on that; if you can play bare-handed, using a open palm glove is not going to be much of a difference nor offer more protection. At the end of the day though; it's an individual's choice and opinion.

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Added on July 10, 2007, 9:47 pmPlaying futsal; I've not worn gloves since I've started. Only wore gloves when joined tournaments which force goalies to have gloves; which i borrowed from opposing team goalies.

Just recently purchased some gloves for match days for more serious tournaments. However; I still don't wear when training or playing for fun. Thus; haven't worn it yet.

This post has been edited by glozz: Jul 10 2007, 09:49 PM

I'm assuming here; but you're talking about the field football goalkeeper's cobra style slide in to grab the ball, am I right?

I'm guessing you can still use it; but considering that futsal's got not much space, it probably would be more feasible to just do a covering slide using legs which would probably yield greater success.

Getting hit in all parts of the anatomy's a regular risk of playing goalies lorr. Just have to get used to it and try to develop your reflex in order to avoid the "important" areas.

Well; a good defense is always an ideal lorr. Goalies have to make do with what they have. Think it applies to life as well.

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Added on July 11, 2007, 5:17 pmWhen making fingertip saves; try tipping the ball from underneath the ball itself rather than fingertipping the middle of the ball; in order to reduce impact on the fingers. Obviously; you'll need to be more careful that you don't tip it into your net lar. Goalkeeping technique revolves quite alot around certain ying/yang principles. Try to deflect/save/parry/smother the ball using the ball's own force; rather than directly opposing the ball using your force.

This post has been edited by glozz: Jul 11 2007, 05:17 PM

I'm thinking stupidity; at least for me. I've been stepped on my d*** before. Lucky it still works. I'm just wondering whether the number of times I've been hit in the balls hurt my sperm fertility.

Well; i look at it this way; a straight at you ball equals an easy save lorr; just have to make sure your reflex is fast enough to absorb the angle to at least make the pain bearable.

Cups? Tried it. Can't play with them. I can't stand the lack of space in that region. Makes me feel like i'm wearing a sarong. Just have to make sure I move quick. Luckily I pushed his leg away before he shifted his weight to the leg on top of my 'lil brother.

Well; obviously it's not intentionally that you want to absorb it marr; that's why it's called "reflexes"? It works for self-protection too! I've lost count the number of times i've used my face as a wall and turned it just in time when the ball hit the face. Good thing I'm not handsome anyway.

This post has been edited by glozz: Jul 11 2007, 05:57 PM

Well; like it or hate it; the tonjol (or known as the "toe poke") is one of the easiest methods and technique to score a goal in futsal. Just have to live with it.

Why don't you surf online for some websites teaching goalie techniques?

Most normal teams just have people throwing balls at you asking you to dive and that forms your goalkeeping training.

Goalie training's one of the most tiring and harshest trainings you can experience as a football player. I'm glad I got out of it early; but I learnt quite alot from it. Then again; most goalie training is pretty much common sense.

When I was young; I used to train my reflexes by placing objects in front of me and repeatedly grabbing it as fast as I can. Want to make it tougher? Do this in a swimming pool. Even tougher? Do it blindfolded.

From time to time; I still practise my positioning and reflexes by a series of exercises I learnt along the way. One of them involves standing in goal with someone on the ball about to take a shot from the halfway line (futsal court); your back facing the person. When he hits the ball; immediately jump around and make the save. I say jump because there's no way you can make the save on time by turning. If this is too difficult, with your back facing the shot taker; bend over and look between your legs and only jump around when he hits the ball.

This post has been edited by glozz: Jul 12 2007, 03:07 PM

Depends what we're going to be doing lorr. hehe.

Was just reviewing my playing style and listing out items I should do and what I should remember to avoid; in preparation for tournament and serious games. Just thought I'll just post this for everyone's benefit:

Please bear in mind that this is just a rough list since it only covers areas I feel I tend to forget. Does not cover areas I am sufficiently proficient in.

Mental and general reminders:


Good technique practices for different situations:


Hope this helps. Remember, this is not a complete list. You'll have to work out the rest. Good luck.

This post has been edited by glozz: Jul 24 2007, 06:27 PM

Ermm, those are good techniques that need to be employed for best effect?

Hip muscle injured? What do you mean? Do you mean the hip bone? Where does it hurt? And what did you do that caused it to hurt?

Ermm; you can easily get the goalie shorts at al-ikhsan sunway or just go to Pertama complex. They're easily available. Pertama has quite a wide variety of gloves to choose from. Not sure whether the price will be the same; but they've got quite alot there.

Glove wear and tear also depends on how you use it. Landing and getting up using your hands will tear any brand of glove; just a matter of time.

Ermm; KL. Next to Sogo.

Something to note though; if you're injurring your thigh and buttock areas frequently; it could be that there's a problem with your landing technique or landing. With proper technique; you don't even need goalie shorts. They're just for protection against carpet burns.

This post has been edited by glozz: Sep 7 2007, 05:15 PM

I don't quite understand what you mean by bad conditioned pitch. I've played on cement, grass, tar, sand, rubber, wood, carpet, artificial grass; never had the problem you describe. I assume the problem is somewhere around your thigh area? Should be a diving stance problem then. Do you warm up as well?

I've had a thigh problem; but that's the front side of the thigh; basically the lap area. Got it from a freak accident while kicking a ball. It recurred couple of times. Solved it by upping my water rehab exercises I learnt from my ol' physio. I would recommend you go to a physio rather than a specialist for sports-related injuries. They've got a much higher healing rate and you learn to live with your injury while using the other muscles in your body to compensate.

Just my opinions though.

This post has been edited by glozz: Sep 7 2007, 11:24 PM

Which shop in PKNS? They sell sports stuffs there too?

Hey Tenno,

Thanks for your advise on glove care and selection 'bout 3 months ago. I've since gone on a shopping spree of sorts after not having worn gloves for like 10 years or so. Guess it's been a necesity since I've started training and seen the kind of shots I thought I stopped seeing since I stopped playing competitively some time long ago.

Presenting; my buys:

Nike's Grip3. I've been impressed by this gloves which I got for RM105. The foam's quite lasting and durable, not to mention the grip. But requires some watering as it does tend to dry up after 1 hour in. I usually train/play for 2 hours.


Lotto's futsalk_pro. One of the best pure futsal half-gloves I've seen in stores so far; especially with it's durability. Doesn't require much watering. Has finger-gel backing for slight finger protection as well. Current wear and tear is after almost 1 1/2 months of twice a week training or play. Grip's the worst among the rest though; as a trade-off. Definitely worth the RM80 price tag. Got myself 2 of these.


As mentioned to you; these were the T90 Spyne Pros I bought after consulting with you. The fingersave's are quite durable though; but the glove's 'bit tight since the box said these were 9s but I was shocked to find out the tags stated that they were 8s. Only realised when I got back though. Fits very snugly; but I'm concerned 'bout the wrist protection; due to my weak wrists. Foam durability seems to be a problem too; the above marks are after I think 3 hours of play. Not very impressive; but I reckon it was meant to be soft gloves.


Same as yours; which you've already reviewed. Haven't worn them yet though; so will try to do so later. The chemical smell is horrid though. Had to wash it once; and planning to do it again.

Currently rotating the Grip3 and the futsalk as training gloves. Planning to get 1 more sub-RM100 full-glove as backup for the Grip3 though. Any suggestions? Thanks.

This post has been edited by glozz: Nov 6 2007, 11:08 PM

Probably just me; but I personally find the Pumas relatively over-priced. What're you currently running on?

Anyway; the grip3's quite good value for money; I must say, as it's quite durable. I've been playing it for about 3 weeks; and that's the shape it's currently in. Compared to the T90 Spyne Pro; it's definitely more durable. However; the finger distancing takes some getting used to; as you really open up your palm. The T90 I must say; has impressive shock absorption. I didn't feel much when wearing them; but I'm very cautious due to it's almost no wrist protection and it's too tight to wear wrist supports under it.

I've just decided to get another pair of g-force as backup so I can start using the other pair for friendlies and some games. The wrist support is very impressive; seeing as I normally wear wrist supports under the gloves; with the g-force, I can just take it off.

Can't find anything interesting from Uhlsports or Reusch here though. Sucks eh?

This post has been edited by glozz: Nov 7 2007, 03:33 PM

What model is it? I thought it doesn't come with the wrist support gel thingy? He's using Adidas now? What a shame though; the G Force is a pretty darn impressive glove. Used it first time couple of days ago. Very impressed with the grip and durability; practically no chips even though it's futsal and it was a very busy night.

I wonder if they're going to stop producing the G-Force's though. Would be a shame. As for Adidas; I think I saw the Response. Was it the Fingertip response? Saw it in PKNS @ RM199 or so. But I wasn't too impressed with it though. Plus they didn't have any in size 9.

You ever bought gloves online? Wanna share the shipping? I might be planning to get a pair of Reusch Shortcuts in 'bout 3-4 months on one of those buy-2-promos, but I'm worried 'bout the wrist protection. Or perhaps one of the other models.

How's the wrist protection? I'll probably make a trip to Pertama one day again to check out the umbros. Heard the top-range's not bad...

Hmm, wanna see a physio? I know a good one in brickfields.

Personally; I do water rehab at least once a week to rehab my torn knee ligament. Anyway; those kinda things suck lorr; what to do eh?

As for me; it's the futsal tourney the 2 weeks ago I participated in. Team manager decided to send the reserve team with only 1 first-team player. He said there were 2; if you include me lar. heh. First match was fine; we won 5-0. Second match started alright; I saved a one-on-one and we were 2-1 and then 3-1 one. First goal conceeded didn't have much that could have been done about it. Then disaster struck.

Out of nowhere and in front of my defender a seemingly normal striker-with-cross-in-front-of-defender situation took a turn for the worse when the ball suddenly disappeared and appeared in the back of the net faster than you can say "WTF". According to the manager; the striker just took the ball first-timed with a volley and it should have struck the defender standing in front of him. No luck I guess. I didn't even see the bloody ball. My reflexes made me jump last minute to nowhere near the ball. 3-2.

Equalising goal was one of those days. The striker appeared to have gotten the ball past the defender, I came out for the one-on-one; I can't remember whether the ball bounced off me or the defender; but the defender and I both collided; the rebound fell out for another striker; he took a swing, the ball bounced off another of my covering defenders, bobbled around; I finally managed to get up only to make a vain dive for the ball which was duly converted by one of their midfielders.

To make matters worse; they scored in the last minute. We were pressing forward to try to grab another goal and in a breakaway; the striker got the ball and it was one-on-one from the halfway line. *sigh* I can't help but feel that I should have waited for him first; but I got my angles covered and was moving into a low cobra dive to my left. He simply placed the ball above and to my left. 4-3 and the whistle blow. I knew I had a bad feeling 'bout this match.

The last match was no better. We had to win this one in order to progress as a draw was not good enough as the opposing team conceeded less than we did. We practically camped in the opposing half and had 2 goals ruled for fouls. One of them I simply didn't understand. We hit the post twice and one of my team's strikers missed a sitter from 1 yard out. The keeper was down; but my striker suddenly chose this time to be flamboyant and stopped the ball; intending to juggle it. Bugger; we would have been up 2-0 had he just done a simple tap-in. Keeper managed to recover and got up and he simply lobbed the ball at the keeper. Bah.

Anyway; I still had a bad feeling 'bout this match and I urged my teammates to relax and take it easy; we will eventually score. But our luck turned again. Striker had the ball; defender was covering it, he took a shot; I should have relaxed; but my first reflex was to get ready to go into a left dive until the ball bounced off my defender who managed to get a last minute leg in; the ball swerved to the right and I made a last minute dive to the right to palm the ball. I should have tried to get my left hand in and catch it as it wasn't too fast; but it was all just reflex. Their striker got to the rebound faster than me although I managed to get up. I was probably half a second slower. 1-0 down. Unbelievable. We pounded their goal somemore and managed to get a last minute equaliser. Wasn't to be our day I guess.

Manager said I did OK, but I felt couple of goals should have done better. Oh well; first tournament in 5 years or so; so just have to take it on the chin. We had training that evening and I was playing defender as there was a glut of goalies that day. The next day; on my regular monday futsal session; I played defender again; I subbed someone and was in for just a minute; when I misplaced a pass; and when I tried to follow the striker who got the ball; he turned to go past me and when I turned; my left knee just gave way. *sigh* My first sprain on my torn ligament in 2 years. Couldn't play anymore but managed to limp; which means wasn't a recurrence which would have kept me out for at least 1 month. Sprain is 'bout 2 weeks for me. *sigh* Wasn't my week I guess.

Sorry for the long whine.

This post has been edited by glozz: Dec 12 2007, 11:13 AM