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post Jul 25 2013, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jul 25 2013, 08:29 AM)
In the first place, once you bought the use car, if that car is purely accident free..
So why you too worried?

For example on my 2003 sentra and clocks over 150k Mileage already.

What I did.. Change the engine oil, 4AT oil, suspension that so... Still can last another 10 yrs.

Make sure you do interval 5k Km for serving & maintenance, what is the faulty parts and change on next serving.

These car also like human, didn't take bath and sleep or change cloths, even new born baby also will faulty.
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U know there are expert who suggest ATF in CVT..
Accident free doesnt means the car well maintain. Some ppl service late this and that, sludge will build up.
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post Jul 25 2013, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 25 2013, 08:32 AM)
U know there are expert who suggest ATF in CVT..
Accident free doesnt means the car well maintain. Some ppl service late this and that, sludge will build up.
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Okay.

That is the option for choose new & used.
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post Jul 25 2013, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jul 25 2013, 12:35 AM)
do not mislead ppl pls gayraptor. who says ppl dont change ATF earlier than 100k mileage? in fact most service booklets recommend customer to service at 50 or 60k intervals. if ppl's auto gearbox got prob you gonna compensate for what you said here in misleading the public? doh.gif

and pls dont make ppl laugh on your jokes, will ya? timing chain or timing belt driven engine will not determine the FC of the engine lar. lol! laugh.gif  doh.gif
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i just heard from my colleague that ATF is changed every 100k
he might got the information from this fella....
if one going to drive the car 20k km per year the ATF going to last him 5 years
for me i have no confident that the ATF remain unchange in my GB for 5 years sweat.gif

for me i going to change it around 30-40k interval



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post Jul 25 2013, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jul 25 2013, 08:42 AM)
Okay.

That is the option for choose new & used.
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But seriously no matter how well its being maintain.. An aging car vs a new one with warranty.. New one would be a better choice I would says. Cover by warranty.. And I think when this kind of question arise , 2nd hand vs budget new.. To me the TS is quite tight on budget already.. And he is looking for a transportation.. So a cheaper one is a better choice.. Since he so budget d.. He might not really like the ride, so in few years he will change the car d..OR if dun.. Local car parts is always cheaper than japanese .. So its also cheaper to make the car MOVEable.. Notice I said moveable... Coz no matter what car parts will fallapart.. My aunts old bmw is worse than my previous old proton.
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 25 2013, 08:48 AM)
But seriously no matter how well its being maintain.. An aging car vs a new one with warranty.. New one would be a better choice I would says. Cover by warranty.. And I think when this kind of question arise , 2nd hand vs budget new.. To me the TS is quite tight on budget already.. And he is looking for a transportation.. So a cheaper one is a better choice.. Since he so budget d.. He might not really like the ride, so in few years he will change the car d..OR if dun.. Local car parts is always cheaper than japanese .. So its also cheaper to make the car MOVEable.. Notice I said moveable... Coz no matter what car parts will fallapart.. My aunts old bmw is worse than my previous old proton.
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Sure or not?
From I know, 4AT Gb in recond set only cost less than 5k all in, if really unlucky.

How bout new saga SV CVT?
Over 10k right? If after warranty or unlucky.
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post Jul 25 2013, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jul 25 2013, 08:29 AM)
In the first place, once you bought the use car, if that car is purely accident free..
So why you too worried?

For example on my 2003 sentra and clocks over 150k Mileage already.

What I did.. Change the engine oil, 4AT oil, suspension that so... Still can last another 10 yrs.

Make sure you do interval 5k Km for serving & maintenance, what is the faulty parts and change on next serving.

These car also like human, didn't take bath and sleep or change cloths, even new born baby also will faulty.
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your case is pure luck. not all used car is problem free. as the name suggest "used" car, so its used. every parts in a car has its designed lifetime somehow. although the jap could be less problem compare to the conti rides, but they will still have the chances to fail due to wear & tear. every mechanical parts that move will fail sooner or later due to wear and tear. bushings, engine mounting, absorbers, driveshafts, water pump, oil pump, fuel pump, valve springs, valve, valve retainers, camshafts, piston, piston ring, conrod, crankshaft bearing, gearbox, clutch, flywheel, brake pump, power steering pump, steering rack and etc. all this moving parts will sooner to fail. old car means old car bro. smile.gif

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post Jul 25 2013, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jul 25 2013, 09:18 AM)
your case is pure luck. now all used car is problem free. as the name suggest "used" car, so its used. every parts in a car has its designed lifetime somehow. although the jap could be less problem compare to the conti rides, but they will still have the chances to fail due to wear & tear. every mechanical parts that move will fail sooner or later due to wear and tear. bushings, engine mounting, absorbers, driveshafts, water pump, oil pump, fuel pump, valve springs, valve, valve retainers, camshafts, piston, piston ring, conrod, crankshaft bearing, gearbox, clutch, flywheel, brake pump, power steering pump, steering rack and etc. all this moving parts will sooner to fail. old car means old car bro. smile.gif
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If you have own more than 10 yrs old ride until now, you sure appreciated of old car vs new car today.

For me I am to be the hobby as sentra N16 now.
If you feel free and join me here : https://www.facebook.com/groups/344926425626409/
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post Jul 25 2013, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jul 25 2013, 08:58 AM)
Sure or not?
From I know, 4AT Gb in recond set only cost less than 5k all in, if really unlucky.

How bout new saga SV CVT?
Over 10k right? If after warranty or unlucky.
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U are comparing recon against new! Try go toyota ask for new vios Gb see how much
Saga is new, cover by warranty
Vios 7 years, can guarantee wont fail in 3 years?
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QUOTE(ItsWL @ Jul 21 2013, 01:18 PM)
Guy~ pls advise, which 1 shud i get, the price is jus about 4k different

-Toyota Vios 2006 G-spec ( 120km +/-)
-Proton Saga SV

Why and why not u choose vios / saga

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I will never buy a 2nd hand car with mileage more than 100k.
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post Jul 25 2013, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jul 25 2013, 09:33 AM)
If you have own more than 10 yrs old ride until now, you sure appreciated of old car vs new car today.

For me I am to be the hobby as sentra N16 now.
If you feel free and join me here : https://www.facebook.com/groups/344926425626409/
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Have to agree with Gouki.

Bro u cant apply ur theory to all.. not everyone knows about car. Espcially old one that need more attention. I use to have a 14 years old proton. Yes 14. Other than some wearing parts.. its awesome.. coz i know the car and i know what to do with it. But for someone whom will ask which car to choose (does not have much ideas about car) a new one would for sure less headache. Heck my frens aging civic and sentra also did lots of replacement parts for the tear and wear

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post Jul 25 2013, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 25 2013, 08:45 AM)
i just heard from my colleague that ATF is changed every 100k
he might got the information from this fella....
if one going to drive the car 20k km per year the ATF going to last him 5 years
for me i have no confident that the ATF remain unchange in my GB for 5 years sweat.gif

for me i going to change it around 30-40k interval


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thats why, only nutcase will recommend ppl to change ATF at 100k or more. most common gearboxes do not has ATF filter like the engine did. the earlier u change your ATF, the better. heck, i changed my ATF every 10 or 20k on my previous ride. coz it's ATF was cheap. tongue.gif
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post Jul 25 2013, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jul 25 2013, 08:58 AM)
Sure or not?
From I know, 4AT Gb in recond set only cost less than 5k all in, if really unlucky.

How bout new saga SV CVT?
Over 10k right? If after warranty or unlucky.
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5k, thats coz its recond unit bro. try ask for the new gearbox in Toyota SC and you will either cry or laugh for insanity. lol. but even 5k is expensive for a recond unit. i believe for any new car after the 5 years warranty, its only used 5 years compare to a 2006 vios. its already 7 years now, and he buys one and use another 5 years, it will be 12 years. so its all about individual preference and financial ability to maintain a car. if u can afford and has some cash to spare for a used car, by all means go ahead and get the car u can dream off. else, just stick with new car with warranty. smile.gif
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jul 25 2013, 09:33 AM)
If you have own more than 10 yrs old ride until now, you sure appreciated of old car vs new car today.

For me I am to be the hobby as sentra N16 now.
If you feel free and join me here : https://www.facebook.com/groups/344926425626409/
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reality and dream are two diff thing bro. just like how i am a big fan of the legendary supra, skyline, mr2, ae86 and etc. but all this old car has a price to pay if u wanna own one now. 1st u must have the knowledge about cars, 2nd is the extra cash to spare to regularly do the preventive maintenance. if not it would be a hassle to only fix the car when u drive it till breakdown. thats why, for most noob that is fresh graduate and looking for their 1st car to buy. best go for new one, unless otherwise as i mentioned above. smile.gif

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post Jul 25 2013, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jul 25 2013, 10:25 AM)
reality and dream are two diff thing bro. just like how i am a big fan of the legendary supra, skyline, mr2, ae86 and etc. but all this old car has a price to pay if u wanna own one now. 1st u must have the knowledge about cars, 2nd is the extra cash to spare to regularly do the preventive maintenance. if not it would be a hassle to only fix the car when u drive it till breakdown. thats why, for most noob that is fresh graduate and looking for their 1st car to buy. best go for new one, unless otherwise as i mentioned above.  smile.gif
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Like a member of the inspira gang whom use to own and fd3s.. now driving er34 with rb26dett. Keep poison me get my dream ride fd3s.. i told him even i can buy cash .. the car will be my daily cash wash and polishing model.. lolzzz
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 25 2013, 10:29 AM)
Like a member of the inspira gang whom use to own and fd3s.. now driving er34 with rb26dett. Keep poison me get my dream ride fd3s.. i told him even i can buy cash .. the car will be my daily cash wash and polishing model.. lolzzz
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the nissan either rb25 or rb26, they are pretty tough and bullet proof engine. as for the rx7, diff case. to own a rx7, u must have another 13b engine as spare in your storeroom. lol. it only can be your 3rd or 4th ride at home. mind my word, not even as 2nd ride. due to msian hot weather, that rotary apex seal wears off pretty quickly here. lol. sweat.gif
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post Jul 25 2013, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jul 25 2013, 10:16 AM)
thats why, only nutcase will recommend ppl to change ATF at 100k or more. most common gearboxes do not has ATF filter like the engine did. the earlier u change your ATF, the better. heck, i changed my ATF every 10 or 20k on my previous ride. coz it's ATF was cheap.  tongue.gif
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ofcoz like you said earlier better
but when i go to see my "under-tree" ah beng workshop at 20k interval gear oil change he said i siao that y i change it at 30k doh.gif

QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 25 2013, 10:29 AM)
Like a member of the inspira gang whom use to own and fd3s.. now driving er34 with rb26dett. Keep poison me get my dream ride fd3s.. i told him even i can buy cash .. the car will be my daily cash wash and polishing model.. lolzzz
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wah people owned ER34 also interest with PRC smell wub.gif
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jul 25 2013, 10:37 AM)
the nissan either rb25 or rb26, they are pretty tough and bullet proof engine. as for the rx7, diff case. to own a rx7, u must have another 13b engine as spare in your storeroom. lol. it only can be your 3rd or 4th ride at home. mind my word, not even as 2nd ride. due to msian hot weather, that rotary apex seal wears off pretty quickly here. lol. sweat.gif
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rx8 also same bro?
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 25 2013, 10:39 AM)
ofcoz like you said earlier better
but when i go to see my "under-tree" ah beng workshop at 20k interval gear oil change he said i siao that y i change it at 30k doh.gif
wah people owned ER34 also interest with PRC smell wub.gif
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if u drive normally like a sane person, then 30 or 40k should be fine. as for my previous ride, i trash it pretty hard, so the 90bux for 3L ATF every 10k is no big deal, rather than a brand new gearbox. lol. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jul 25 2013, 10:37 AM)
the nissan either rb25 or rb26, they are pretty tough and bullet proof engine. as for the rx7, diff case. to own a rx7, u must have another 13b engine as spare in your storeroom. lol. it only can be your 3rd or 4th ride at home. mind my word, not even as 2nd ride. due to msian hot weather, that rotary apex seal wears off pretty quickly here. lol. sweat.gif
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yup .. he told me that .. infact he did have a spare 13B in his store when he got his ride .. lolz ...
and my inspira is on his rx7 ori allu wheels ... brows.gif
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jul 25 2013, 10:42 AM)
if u drive normally like a sane person, then 30 or 40k should be fine. as for my previous ride, i trash it pretty hard, so the 90bux for 3L ATF every 10k is no big deal, rather than a brand new gearbox. lol. tongue.gif
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its just a crappy satria doh.gif
i bought it a very cheap price about 13k for 2005 auto last year
going to change it to manual auto is fucuking serow sad.gif

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