QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 24 2013, 11:49 PM)
Variable air intake doesn't help reduce FC that much as seen in some earlier generation Conti, US & Koreans made when they have not able to develop proper VVT in early 2000s. Toyota SC got greedy and set short interval to cheat owners? People don't change ATF fluid that short interval for conventional AT, at least 100,000km onwards only.
Saga FLX
Engine 1332cc with VIS but no VVT
output 94ps@5750rpm
torque 120Nm@4000rpm
kerb weight - 1055kg lo-spec / 1065kg hi-spec
CVT gearbox
0-100km/h 14.5s
Fiesta 1.6 AT
Engine 1596cc dual VVT + VIS
output 122ps@6300rpm
torque 152Nm@4050rpm (website showing 148Nm ??)
kerb weight 1153kg hatchback / 1171kg sedan
6AT - strong & bigger gears 3.917 1st gear
0-100km/h forgot whether 9.9s or 9.7s
Saga relies on smaller engine & lighter weight for FC. Saga FC can't even beat Myvi 1.3VVT. How sure are you that Saga can beat Fiesta in city FC? Fiesta is 1 of the few B-segment (budget <100k) so far that could challenge Vios in real city driving. Preve Campro VVT is belt driven which is less effective like older generation Korean made when they first came up with VVT, all belt driven. Only Sonata NF Theta engine & later i30/Forte Gamma engine equipped with timing chain have proper FC comparable to Toyota.
do not mislead ppl pls gayraptor. who says ppl dont change ATF earlier than 100k mileage? in fact most service booklets recommend customer to service at 50 or 60k intervals. if ppl's auto gearbox got prob you gonna compensate for what you said here in misleading the public? Saga FLX
Engine 1332cc with VIS but no VVT
output 94ps@5750rpm
torque 120Nm@4000rpm
kerb weight - 1055kg lo-spec / 1065kg hi-spec
CVT gearbox
0-100km/h 14.5s
Fiesta 1.6 AT
Engine 1596cc dual VVT + VIS
output 122ps@6300rpm
torque 152Nm@4050rpm (website showing 148Nm ??)
kerb weight 1153kg hatchback / 1171kg sedan
6AT - strong & bigger gears 3.917 1st gear
0-100km/h forgot whether 9.9s or 9.7s
Saga relies on smaller engine & lighter weight for FC. Saga FC can't even beat Myvi 1.3VVT. How sure are you that Saga can beat Fiesta in city FC? Fiesta is 1 of the few B-segment (budget <100k) so far that could challenge Vios in real city driving. Preve Campro VVT is belt driven which is less effective like older generation Korean made when they first came up with VVT, all belt driven. Only Sonata NF Theta engine & later i30/Forte Gamma engine equipped with timing chain have proper FC comparable to Toyota.
and pls dont make ppl laugh on your jokes, will ya? timing chain or timing belt driven engine will not determine the FC of the engine lar. lol!
Jul 25 2013, 12:35 AM
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