Oh yeah Bank bumiputera does not exist anymore. My point was, during these recession period in Malaysia, stocks hurt the most compared to property.

Only happen in bolehland.

Stock prices are determined based on their underlying assets/ income generation capability... those that go bust were either having overvalued assets OR overrated future income generation... Just like Lehman (overvalued assets)... dot com companies... (all empty shells and overrated technologies that never made it to the market)... properties weren't severely hit the last recessions because in boleh-land they weren't overvalued (as they weren't widely used as investment tools)... today's property prices are a very different story and so are the motives behind purchasing them compared to before.

My opinion...

Well doesnt matter, if you want to use history as part of our analysis to say which is better, stocks are more riskier than properties. History says so.

Then if you want to say that properties are different nowadays where it is an investment tool or whatnot and want to use US as a guide or comparison then US drop its interest rates to 0.25%.

And i believe that everybody who bought fennel are mostly 90% for own use and not for investment, i mean everybody here will agree even the upside camp, that fennel is too expensive to give any return.

and to add on.. 4.5 years wor... hurmm... anything could happen within the next 5 years.

For Fennel, capital outlay RM100k. 4.5 years later sell RM1.1m. Profit RM300k / 300%. Over 4.5 years = 60+% per year

Any blue chip can give return of 60+% per year ?

Any blue chip invest RM100k, can make capital gain RM300k ?

This post has been edited by EddyLB: Aug 1 2013, 06:24 PM

u not sure yet whether ada org mau beli or not. for RM1.1m you will have many other options man... would rather invest 3 double storey in NILAI than to have a single condo in Sentul leh.

Yup looking at 5 yrs and as a stock investor myself, i would be more worried on stocks that i hold rather than the properties.

So many things affect stocks. World oil price, fed interest rates, tsunami in japan and KABOOM Klci drop 20 points in 10 minutes. I tell you u wont sleep at night. Coz if a tsunami happens in japan like last time, my house price is still d same but my stocks were getting a beating.

Yeah dats why for me i think it is impossible dat majority were investors on that day.

stock will also impact property development.. YTL stock went down the drain.. do you think this sentul project will continue???

better buy sub sale chor.

That's the questions asked by the DDD camp. Will the market keep going up ?

If like last few years, then RM1.1m no problem to sell

If stagnant, then sell at RM850k. Take back capital. Worth the risk or not ?

Well for this example, it doesnt matter if you buy YTL stocks or YTL properties, either way u are screwed.

To me, real home buyers wouldnt queue up like that, especially for a condo at that price in Sentul which is an area im almost certain many of them havent lived in before. If they were selling DSLs maybe... But these condos? Im not denying the project is attractive. But if these people wanted, they could have bought nice existing condos in the vicinity.

good tot. and ... wait 4.5 yrs = genuine homebuyers? !!

Can't wait for the response to this... Should be good.

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/money/ar...t-ringgit-drops

Hmmmm.... selling more securities is a sign of?

Maybe, my experience with Amaya, we were queing up. Lucky there were lots of bumi lots coz non bumis are mostly finished. I surveyed everybody, yup i can see there were investors, but then hearing the discussions among them, there were people buying for own stay. Not for investment. So i ask myself, what category am I? I actually bought it for a backup for own stay. Just in case i cant find any good landed house. Then in d end i bought two, this is a backup for my children and at d same time maybe rent it out. Then what category am I? I think both for investing with a backup for own stay. But then can say for own stay with backup investing too. Dont intend to sell but then never say never. Well i m giving pov of my own self as a property buyer.

Wow!

Maybe your emotional make-up not suited to stocks? I've lost sleep due to stress over my job, but I've never lost sleep due to stocks.

I have both stocks and properties. KLCI drop 20 points is nothing .... some overseas (blue chip) stocks can go down (and up) very sharply.

But one thing I noticed is that my friends who are heavily into properties (>10 biji) don't tend to do well in stocks. Maybe cause the skills and mind set required are very different.

Different risk appetites..