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 [WTA]Fiesta vs 208 vs Inspira vs Prius C, <RM90k car for Single late 20s male

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post Jul 14 2013, 09:34 AM

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Seriously what kind of fair journalist is he?
Claim he knows car well..

He does not own d car

He ASSUME is a diff chassis due to lesser kerb weight
He ASSUME many parts are localize
He ASSUME local parts use diff material and diff quality
He ASSUME USA no such thing call emission control
He ASSUME rear suspension have lesser parts
He ASSUME its lotus handling
He ASSUME the part list are fake
He ASSUME there are many proton salesman here

He knows nothing about car, get his information from the web, make his own assumption, dun accept anything when ppl tell him.

No wonder he is famous in AW now he is famous in LYN.
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post Jul 14 2013, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 14 2013, 01:15 PM)
you still dont get it??
leser kerb weight means lesser part laugh.gif
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Seriously memalukan bangsa dan negara
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post Jul 14 2013, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 14 2013, 02:41 PM)
apa lu cakap i got paper to suppork me behind vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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Not u la.. U know I know who lo whistling.gif
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post Jul 14 2013, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 14 2013, 03:11 PM)
btw i mean paper that said Lancer GL and Inspira has diff kerb weight brows.gif  brows.gif
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City E and S also diff chassis.. whistling.gif
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post Jul 14 2013, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 14 2013, 05:37 PM)
Wow, already 4 replies so far. I am glad that at least allenultra stayed professional and neutral, good job.

The rest replied with much hatred that they go personal. Why can't reply properly and fill in the blanks with hatred? You sellman or have business related to P1?

I managed to check this info from the same person who told the differences between Inspira & Lancer GT 2 years ago. Here's his reply:

When MMC & P1 signed the deal, it stated clearly, any technical parts that will lead to breakdown, engine blown, failed handling like Sylphy/Almera, or any issue that could damage MMC reputation.

The Inspira is based on the Lancer GL that can't sell well that was phased out earlier. In the assembly plant, the engine, gearbox, the suspension, electronic components/modules/sensors, interior dashboard, door panels brought in imported. The machine here does the stamping with the metal sheets imported. The rest of the parts that won't cause breakdown are done locally. Some are sub to local companies to produce the parts. Due to improper storage (space vacuum), the interior of Inspira not as fragrant as brand new Conti/Japanese/Korean cars inside. Smells like China made cars.

The P1 tuned suspension is only myth to show that they do produce something and the rear suspension is exact match of Lancer GL and not from Lancer GT.

Kerb weight:
Lancer 2.0GT 1385kg
Lancer 2.0GL 1320kg (reduced ingredient variant for 3rd nation)
Lancer 2.0GL 1335kg
Inspira 2.0 Premium 1335kg

Difference between Lancer GL & GT lies in the large METAL BAR that connects to both rear wheels arms. Relook into your replies earlier, don't know why you keep showing me the arm. Show the arm for what when people talking about the whole Multilink rear suspension? Have to use the word Metal Bar or Metal Beam or else you would refer elsewhere. Who knows, you might show me the tie rod in front in reply. That 50kg difference came from this metal bar alone. Understand? Mind you the bodykit, side skirt, & spoiler aren't heavy that even small kid could easily carry it with 1 hand. People use adhesive 2 sided tape specially for PU & fibreglass material for skirting nowadays. No more cement.

So stop saying your Inspira is Lancer GT. It's based on Lancer GL and that is why MMC willing to let P1 rebadge but under strict restriction and monitoring. This explains why Lancer GT sales still survive today. Many who can't afford new would buy used Lancer GT rather than buy that Inspira. Hassle free guaranteed thumbup.gif
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U really one word to describe.. BoDoH.. Seriously..
Please go dig back what I said. I said absorbers and anti roll bar made by proton.
Mr Journalist.. Muli link suspension from left to right connected is called anti roll bar!! If u dont understand english.
Ops sorry.. Forte use torsion beam guess u never know what the fark is an antiroll bar. YOU YOUSELF SAYS THE METAL WHICH CONNECT THE TWO REAR ARMS! Mr genious! Again I repeat its call ANTI ROLL BAR!! And dig back the previous post I said! LANCER GT IS USING 20mm , LANCER GLS NON! Proton inspira 16mm (local made).. And MR GENIOUS! Go find me an anti roll bar that weights 50KG!

u keep making urself look like an idiot. So did u ask any diff in terms of engine gearbox of lancer gl and gt? And who the hell is ur source?

let me teach u something else. The thing that holds the arm together is call sub frame. The sub frame hold the left and right arm in place. The thing that hold the left and right arm together is call anti roll bar! And already I mention earlier made by proton. And again I said its a different tuning. Ur english fail I guess.

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post Jul 14 2013, 06:41 PM

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In case u forget. U are the one whom says something missing in inspira rear suspension. Then u claim the material different. U are the one whom claim the arm are localy produce. In fact u claim many local parts now u says many import parts!! What else u previously claim not claim now?
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post Jul 14 2013, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(crabby86 @ Jul 14 2013, 06:41 PM)
Jayraptor is crapping here ya. Well crap, well crap.
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Wahlau this guy.. Show him fact he can twist back .. Day one I reply tellig him absorbers by proton anti roll bar diff.. And the idiot claim anti roll bar weights 50kg!! He first claim many local parts n now claim differently... Damn lazy to logic with him...
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post Jul 14 2013, 06:56 PM

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He claim we proton sales man lies about proton part
Npw he claim many imported part
Claim anti roll bar 50kg

And now claim inspira absorber is lancer gl absorber. Maybe we shd show him our ori spring and absorber. Coz I fucuking changed mine to custom d..
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post Jul 14 2013, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 14 2013, 06:59 PM)
diam la bolo
your car smells like China shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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Bro..no point troll here. he dun even understand when ppl sound him.. Troll he dun understand. Terus terus can d..
IM interested in 50kg anti roll bar
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post Jul 14 2013, 07:14 PM

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Let me summarize it.

Jayraptor started ..
He claim Inspira many local parts like wira 1.6
Then he claim chassis diff from lancer gt and gls

We explain
Many mitsu parts but proton assembly proton workmanship
We told him chassis same. Juz suspension diff tuning. Softer absorber setup with smaller anti roll bar. Local

Jayraptor says we tryin to spread lies tell ppl lots of lancer parts he further claim we might be prpton salesperson trying to push sales. He also claim local parts using diff density material give diff performance and setup. He further claim US emission control is crap no such thing.

we show him prove that the list of mitsu parts and show him the epa website.

he tot he very smart ask his fren ( we dunno got or not one he no prove no nothing) then tot he very smart show us the diff is the metal tat connect rear left n right arm! That is the 50kg diff!!!

And finally found out its what I have spoken in the first place anti roll bar... Lolz whistling.gif

Take a stone throw own leg
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post Jul 14 2013, 07:37 PM

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Later I go print screen lancer GT and his so call lancer GLS punya rear suspension setup from lancer factory service manual show him... I really laugh till stomachache d..
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post Jul 14 2013, 09:32 PM

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Extracted from a 2011 lancer service manual (factory service manual) ..
**Pst .. i know u might says I DRAW it out .

Some headups for you ...

The specs are base on USA lancer .

Lancer DE -> FF Low spec , 16" wheels
Lancer ES -> FF Mid spec, 16" wheels
Lancer GTS -> FF high spec, 18" wheels ..
Lancer SE -> AWD mid spec 16" wheels

Our lancer GT is actually a MID spec only (comparing against US spec) .. YES mid spec ..
GTS comes with 2.4 (4B12 engine) . Bigger brakes .. local lancer GT (only one batch comes with bigger brakes .. other smaller brakes)

If you look at the picture i posted.. it stated Lancer GTS and ES comes with your so call metal Beam @ Anti Roll bar .. which weights 50kg ... (according to you) . Other parts is the same..

Yea yea yea .. i made this up
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post Jul 14 2013, 09:50 PM

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I sudah fedup showing him the truth d ..

Antirollbar 50kg he also can think off ...
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post Jul 14 2013, 09:56 PM

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Ok .. let him be more idiot

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Just incase u dont know
Inspira comes with 10.9" ventilated front disc
Rear comes with 10.3" solid disc .. (its a Mid spec in this list .. the ES) ..

Look at the suspension part .

GTS comes with tower bar (front) and stabilizer bar behind @ anti roll bar ..

before u start to speak .. Go google up what is stabilizer bar and tower bar first... DUN make yourself another mistaken .. Google can help u

Notice here .. GTS comes with 4B12 (US) .. our local GT only get the 4B10 @ 2.0 engine

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post Jul 14 2013, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 14 2013, 10:01 PM)
all spec and chasis same like lancer also no use la, smells like china made cars  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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he willing to pay 40k for the smell mmt one
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post Jul 14 2013, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(OldKidz @ Jul 14 2013, 10:13 PM)
Uhmm Honda Jazz Hybrid, now RM 79xxx which is worth right? lol
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honestly i think quite worth for Jazz Hybrid ..
the CKD jazz also valued for money
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post Jul 14 2013, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(OldKidz @ Jul 14 2013, 10:38 PM)
CBU used to be closed to 100k.

Now CKD hybrid which with 12k discount, yet around 78k is worth.

non hybird version 74k but I think non hybrid is aiming those tax free state more, by which means hybrid is more worth for non tax free state.

I think, now even I think twice whether I should change mine, but 2 years later I might option to work oversea will selling it off... uhmmm
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If you are not planning to use long .. go get a 2nd hand cheaper car (personal opnion) .. not worth to spend on the car .. coz first 2 years value drop the most ..

hybrid i would worry more to the electronics .. thou i can mess with it (i did on the inspira ... much higher spec that the local lancer GT can offer now whistling.gif) .. but then for hybrid .. i think the sparepart will kill me d ..
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post Jul 14 2013, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(@udio_jr @ Jul 14 2013, 10:47 PM)
Would like to make some inquires on the Inspira, hope you guys can offer some advice.

Currently thinking of getting the Inspira but understands that it may cease production soon. Would like to know whether will there be any difficulties in getting replacement parts in the future? Like say another 3 to 5 years?

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Bro .. like i stated previously .. most parts are lancers (all major parts are lancers)...
If i were u .. i would worry on the parts price first ... becoz its mitsubishi parts ...

headups for u
original air filter .. RM149 .. thats why many replace to KNN
spark plugs .. RM60 each
brake pads .. front alone 400 ++

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post Jul 14 2013, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(@udio_jr @ Jul 14 2013, 11:00 PM)
Thanks for the reply.

Knew that the price for original parts will be pricey, but i'm just more concern on the parts availability. The lancer has been on the road for quite a while and it's not a new model to begin with. Not sure whether will the spare parts be easily available if a replacement model comes out.

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Lancer is a global car. parts availability will easily last years. Dun worry about it. Pricing parts will be .. Lolz some shocking price if u are interested..

Key .. Proton sell 558. Mitsu can get for 400+
Air con compressor .. I claim mine .. 3800++
headlight 1700
Front hood 2000++
Windscreen 3000++ (latestbatch got localize proton windscreen d.. 800++)
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post Jul 14 2013, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(jnick @ Jul 14 2013, 11:26 PM)
U may visit lyn Inspira car club....

Kenny not sales man. Haha. Just he knows the car well.
Don't be surprise he got all the price list.
Japanese car, ppl never worry about the parts. Remember?
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Yup.. I know the car inside out. I dismantle it here and there.. Add missing feature .. Not juz parts.. So I know the pros and cons over the lancer .. And hell yeah im cheapskate! Not like some pro whom talk kok and refer from his fren Alex

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