Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed
5 Pages < 1 2 3 4 5 >Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 The SSD Thread V4, Solid State Drive

views
     
1024kbps
post Feb 21 2014, 10:29 PM

李素裳
*******
Senior Member
6,010 posts

Joined: Feb 2007



QUOTE(WoShiAiZai @ Feb 21 2014, 09:00 PM)
thanks for replying  notworthy.gif
im able to see my SSD under device manager already but still cant see it in 'My Computer'
good to know my SSD is functioning
*
You still have to initialize it under disk management, without it windows unable to use it, take a look on this guide
http://forums.crucial.com/t5/Solid-State-D...ows/ta-p/111492
1024kbps
post Mar 9 2014, 02:50 AM

李素裳
*******
Senior Member
6,010 posts

Joined: Feb 2007



QUOTE(Celestia @ Mar 8 2014, 04:22 PM)
[attachmentid=3882491]

I just bought an Intel 530 and above is the benchmark results

write speed quite low, is it a problem?

weird is Atto showing decent results, but Crystal and AS show different

PS: Win 8.1 and I'm pretty sure I am using sata III port as well
*
ATTO by default using compressible data for benchmark ,which is why the write speed is higher than the rest of the benchmarking software that using random data.
Intel 530 use SandForce controller, it's known for it's weak write speed with random data.
1024kbps
post Mar 18 2014, 01:46 PM

李素裳
*******
Senior Member
6,010 posts

Joined: Feb 2007



QUOTE(Crusnik04 @ Mar 18 2014, 12:52 PM)
so the ssd also good for gaming right cuz i though the sole reason for ssd are fast windows boot..
*
There is a thing called hibernation, im pretty sure many people didnt know it, resume from hibernation is actually very fast even with slow machine. sweat.gif
There are many reason to use SSD, not just for faster boot time.
1024kbps
post Mar 22 2014, 11:41 PM

李素裳
*******
Senior Member
6,010 posts

Joined: Feb 2007



QUOTE(creative zn @ Mar 22 2014, 11:33 PM)
Guys, does SSD can improve speed in Adobe CS5, open apps, browsing, etc? I just know SSD is improve booting time. But beside that what does it do? sweat.gif

Coz, i rarely booting up my PC. Most of time i put on sleep mode, and press any key it will back on within few sec.
*
Yeah sure, if you install everything on SSD, your OS and programs will become much more responsive as SSD has very low random access latency + higher IO per second.
Saving, opening and undo/redo operation may be faster on CS5, but SSD cant speed up everything, browsing and some other operation on CS5 may still need powerful CPU/GPU sweat.gif
1024kbps
post Mar 23 2014, 07:30 PM

李素裳
*******
Senior Member
6,010 posts

Joined: Feb 2007



QUOTE(kherel77 @ Mar 23 2014, 06:37 PM)
Really bro...? what a relief... icon_idea.gif Thanks a lot  notworthy.gif
*
Try install IRST and compare the score again, you are using the default AHCI drive from Microsoft(aka msahci), which performance is slightly lower but it's the most stable AHCI driver.
1024kbps
post Mar 23 2014, 09:46 PM

李素裳
*******
Senior Member
6,010 posts

Joined: Feb 2007



QUOTE(kherel77 @ Mar 23 2014, 07:55 PM)
Intel IRST Version 12.9.0.1001 is latest rite? Do I need to un-install MSAHCI driver first or just install Intel's?

hmm.gif But I think better stick to most stable one...even it's slightly lower performance. Safe play... sweat.gif
*
No, if you installed IRST, the Intel AHCI driver will replace the default ACHI driver, you dont have to do anything beside download and install the IRST.
You can always try and uninstall IRST later.
So, do you think Intel released buggy ISRT to destroy people's hopes and dreams? sweat.gif it's more optimized than default one, and probably more advantages, but it's up to you.
1024kbps
post Mar 24 2014, 05:55 PM

李素裳
*******
Senior Member
6,010 posts

Joined: Feb 2007



QUOTE(marfccy @ Mar 24 2014, 04:44 PM)
man.. first day Intel 530 owner.. and already having problems with the AHCI config sweat.gif

went on boot loop when changed from IDE to AHCI

then attempt to install AHCI drivers from ASUS, platform not supported -.-
*
If you dont want to reinstall your OS, here's the trick http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=313676
Another trick is changing SSD to other SATA port with different chipset, but i cant recall if whether if this one will work correctly or not sweat.gif
Never touched SSD and BIOS for decades already.
1024kbps
post Mar 24 2014, 07:03 PM

李素裳
*******
Senior Member
6,010 posts

Joined: Feb 2007



QUOTE(fotosintesis @ Mar 24 2014, 06:12 PM)
Hi guys..
Due to some circumstance,got rm300 to be spent at idealtech
My board model is as per siggy

Mind to advice my best bang for the model?, could stretch my budget alittle icon_question.gif
*
EVO 128GB? five years warranty, RAPID mode, stretch a little get 840 pro then sweat.gif
1024kbps
post Apr 23 2014, 06:05 PM

李素裳
*******
Senior Member
6,010 posts

Joined: Feb 2007



QUOTE(marfccy @ Apr 23 2014, 03:52 PM)
yep, SSD have limited writes so its best not to keep writing too many files on it

though ofc, the writes are sometimes super huge until itll take a while before it dies. even by then, youll prolly upgraded to a new SSD laugh.gif

usually MLC are rated 10GB writes per day (i could be wrong) so provided you dont exceed that, your SSD more than capable enough to outlast most of your PC parts

EDIT: sorry my bad, bolded part is incorrect. they are rated more. for example Crucial M500/M550 at 66GB per day
*
+1
The bigger the SSD capacity, the longer lifespan, http://www.pcworld.com/article/2043634/how...sd-storage.html
Write to SSD is okay, just don't write and erase repeatedly(like you filled up the SSD 70% of capacity and moved the big files to HDD)
1024kbps
post Apr 25 2014, 10:25 AM

李素裳
*******
Senior Member
6,010 posts

Joined: Feb 2007



QUOTE(khen911 @ Apr 24 2014, 04:04 PM)
I found these sources from google.
http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsu...20GB/1886vs1934
http://ssdboss.com/ssds/Samsung-840-EVO-vs-Intel-530

In performance wise, Samsung 840 EVO is better than Intel 530...Is it true?
*
Intel use SandForce 2281 controller, which incompressible data might affect the SSD performance(reduced write and read speed.) There're plenty of cheap SSD use SandForce 2281 if i recall correctly.
while the other use either Marvel or Samsung controller didn't affect much.
1024kbps
post Apr 25 2014, 10:30 AM

李素裳
*******
Senior Member
6,010 posts

Joined: Feb 2007



QUOTE(horns @ Apr 23 2014, 06:36 PM)
yes, usually permitted writes are larger than 10GB per day for consumer ssd's. for common usage, that's a huge number to overcome. everyday.

for things like torrents, plus the limited internet bandwidth that we have, hdd is still a better choice. spacious and affordable.
*
while HDD are cheaper, their life span are unpredictable according to my experience, i RMA-ed 5 Western Digital HDD, and i'm done with this HDD maker.
Backing up the data from almost dead drive is pain in the arse, RAID drive even worst, random drop-out.
Just hope the NAND price keep dropping like mad and soon affordable 3TB SSD will be priced close to current HDD price lol sweat.gif
1024kbps
post May 1 2014, 01:30 AM

李素裳
*******
Senior Member
6,010 posts

Joined: Feb 2007



QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 1 2014, 12:25 AM)
Is it advisable to put my OS in a smaller SSD and my games in the current 256GB one? Anyone here uses multiple SSDs of different variants?
*
Only if your SSD cannot fit the OS partition, or the small SSD is spare SSD,
else it does not make much sense, although there is nothing wrong with it imho.
1024kbps
post Jun 14 2014, 11:32 PM

李素裳
*******
Senior Member
6,010 posts

Joined: Feb 2007



QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jun 14 2014, 11:20 PM)
With no AHCI, you're basically diminishing the SSD's value, SSD is fast but for it to works wonderfully and longevity, you needs AHCI.
SSD optimization also maximize its performance and prolong its lifespan.
For you case, you will probably only feels the performance drop after days to weeks of usage, when the SSD reaches its peak and no garbage collection (a.k.a. TRIM).
Be sure to read more about optimization before you complains when it's slowing down.
Mine has already write over few TBs (using VM lots few months ago with huge database works) and no, boot up and opening applications still the same speed, except the CPU couldn't keep up at time. sweat.gif
*
I think TRIM works even you're on IDE mode, AHCI basically just enhance the performance abit and hot swappable function.
Converting IDE mode to AHCI is abit risky unless he is adventurous or has knowledge of repairing OS boot problem sweat.gif
1024kbps
post Jun 15 2014, 12:04 PM

李素裳
*******
Senior Member
6,010 posts

Joined: Feb 2007



QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jun 15 2014, 07:55 AM)
Well, for Windows Vista and above, just set the registry (first) then go to BIOS and set to AHCI, and good to go, simple as that.
I do see optimization highly recommends AHCI due to the TRIM... hmm.gif was I wrong? sweat.gif
*
I remember i use to do that, converting to AHCI to RAID back and fort, due to RETARDED SandForce SSD firmware upgrade program only works on AHCI mode. sweat.gif doh.gif (intel ssd are excluded from this problem)
Never tried the registry method though but i remember it was tough.
Now using Plextor SSD, peace of mind lol

TRIM command is depends on OS i think. IDE or AHCI mode does not matter iirc. without TRIM your SSD still can do garbage collection but at it will done poorly due to no TRIM.
1024kbps
post Jun 21 2014, 08:43 PM

李素裳
*******
Senior Member
6,010 posts

Joined: Feb 2007



QUOTE(StarXing @ Jun 21 2014, 12:32 PM)
Anyone using transcend ssd340, how is the reliability or performance ? It comes at a cheap price at my area RM255 so I'm considering
*
The review conclusion from TT dont sounds good, http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6331/tran...ew/index10.html
Unless you dont have choice, do consider some reputable brand like Intel, Samsung, Micron, SandDisk or Plextor SSD.
1024kbps
post Jun 23 2014, 10:57 PM

李素裳
*******
Senior Member
6,010 posts

Joined: Feb 2007



QUOTE(sai86 @ Jun 23 2014, 10:34 PM)
wta, using hero vi now and i notice it got 6 intel sata3 and 2 sata3 ASMEDIA.

may i know what is the different between these 2? i googled up and it is advisable to use ASMEDIA sata as storage device only instead of hooking up an SSD.
*
Well thoese third party sata controller like Asmedia, Marvel or Jmicro is always sucks compare to Intel/AMD chipset.
They either bottlenecked by the PCIE lanes or some other reason, unlike those, Intel AHCI/Raid driver are much more optimized.
1024kbps
post Jun 23 2014, 11:02 PM

李素裳
*******
Senior Member
6,010 posts

Joined: Feb 2007



QUOTE(xXAaronXx @ Jun 23 2014, 06:30 PM)
I ordered a Intel 530 240GB SSD today not sure is it a good choice or not. Any enlightenment?
*
Are you going to cancel it if we say it sucks? sweat.gif
If it's damn cheap then you probably no need an answer from us. I'd say it's a good choice despite it's an really old SSD.
Most of the SSD saturated the SATA 6GB/s bandwidth, if i were you i would buy dual 530 120GB to do RAID 0 if mobo is H7x or better.
1024kbps
post Jul 18 2014, 10:49 PM

李素裳
*******
Senior Member
6,010 posts

Joined: Feb 2007



QUOTE(combataran @ Jul 18 2014, 10:21 PM)
Who here's using a Plextor m6e? I'd like to know how it's different from normal SSDs.
*
I dont usually spoon feeding people, but i'm interested on it too, so might as well post the link http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/plext...d_review,9.html
1024kbps
post Jul 19 2014, 03:28 PM

李素裳
*******
Senior Member
6,010 posts

Joined: Feb 2007



QUOTE(horns @ Jul 19 2014, 09:08 AM)
the main difference is speed, due to the bandwidth increase with pcie, compared to sata. other than that, they are the same. m6e is actually a m.2 pcie ssd mounted on a pcie adapter.

the rest of the differences imo are basically about price points, form factors and compatible mobo features. unless your mobo let you do so, one thing about m6e is that it cannot set as boot drive.

talking about m.2 slot implementations, m6e is pcie x2 (10gbps), a common implementation for m.2 pcie slots in the newest mobo's. the exception is asrock z97 extreme series, which includes an ultra m.2 slot (32gbps). with that you can run a pcie x4 ssd.

edit: oh i was wrong, only select models of asrock mobo's has ultra m.2 slot.
*
Is there any proof that shows this PCIE SSD cannot be use as boot drive? sweat.gif
Most of the review sites that use multiple storage drive for testing so there are no conclusion, except the Guru3D use this PCIE SSD solely as storage drive.

Even if it's not bootable, there are many tricks to make it bootable, if the Windows/Unix bootloader can recognize this drive.
My cheap mobo don't have extra space for this SSD, else i would really bought it tongue.gif

Kinda bored of current SATA based SSD cause its already saturated the SATA 6GBs bandwidth. And uh i dont want the SATA Express SSD because of the ugly cable (are we going back to IDE cable? the hell with it)
1024kbps
post Jul 19 2014, 08:51 PM

李素裳
*******
Senior Member
6,010 posts

Joined: Feb 2007



QUOTE(marfccy @ Jul 19 2014, 08:08 PM)
that is rather odd though, Macs have been using PCIE SSDs as boot drive

any idea why in Windows they cant? hmm.gif
*
PC Master race could butt hurt lol,
Apple use full fledged PCIE SSD?

http://www.asus.com/sg/Storage_Optical_Dri...press_PCIe_SSD/
www.plextoramericas.com/index.php/pcie-ssd/hhhl/pcie-m6e
Both also stated support legacy BIOS and UEFI, i guess they're bootable.

If bootloader can recognize the PCIE SSD as storage drive, they're bootable too, well, in theory.
Even a usb thumbdrive are bootable lol sweat.gif doh.gif

5 Pages < 1 2 3 4 5 >Top
Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0617sec    0.42    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 29th November 2025 - 07:48 PM