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eddydo
post Aug 25 2013, 09:40 PM

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Hello everybody!

1. Any reliable brand which last long and with good service and maintanance
2. Max rm3000 with everything covered.(ssd, ram upgrades and stuff) Just a student and don't wanna burn my dad's wallet. But if there is a valuable upgrade i would top up.
3. Mainly photo and video editing.
4. Minimum 15".

Thanks smile.gif

This post has been edited by eddydo: Aug 25 2013, 09:43 PM
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post Aug 27 2013, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Aug 26 2013, 12:53 PM)
Pretty much these two, since other 15 inchers don't really come with "true" i7 processors (needed for your usage):
15.6"
Dell
Inspiron 15R (Special Edition), i7-3612QM + AMD HD7730M + (1920x1080; anti-glare) + 32GB SSD + 1TB HDD(5400rpm)@RM3199, 8GB, backlit keyboard optional, W8

Y510p, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GT750M(GDDR5) + (1920x1080)@RM3099[2.7kg], 8GB, 1TB, W8, red backlit, swappable ODD, 120w psu, 2 yrs

THe Dell would give a slighter faster user experience because of the SSD, but it has a slightly weaker CPU and GPU.
The Y510p is superior in almost every way haha, apart from warranty support I guess hmm.gif

* prices in RRP, negotiable
* it might be wise to top up to get on-site warranty support for both the Dell or the Lenovo
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Thanks for your advice. So is it preferable to go for 17"? If i go for 17" and increase my budget by 1k, what should i go for?
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post Aug 27 2013, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Aug 27 2013, 11:39 PM)
Nothing similar within that price range unfortunately bro  sad.gif
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So i can't get a good 17" laptop for rm4k? oh no this is very bad.

Just wanna satisfy my curiosity, what is the current best laptop for video/ photo editing?

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post Aug 28 2013, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(xproc @ Aug 28 2013, 12:00 AM)
15" macbook pro with retina display...http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/
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although you need wait for product refresh which will come very soon...
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What about windows?
My desktop is windows so i thought it might be a problem if i transfer files from windows to mac or vise versa.
And license need buy for two different platform haa..
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post Aug 28 2013, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(xproc @ Aug 28 2013, 12:09 AM)
seriously no problem transfer file from windows to mac or vice versa... actually i dunno why people so resist mac os... actually the learning curve is really small and its more simple and more direct to get what you want...

but the issue for you is the budget... so i think you better stick with i think lenovo y510p...
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Just wondering what do you mean by swappable odd? Saw the hdd only runs at 5400rpm which is pretty slow..
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post Aug 28 2013, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Aug 28 2013, 12:13 AM)
Suddenly recalled on the MSI GS70 laugh.gif
Lightest 17.3" gaming notebook in the world haha

GS70-2OC, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM4699[2.66kg][Dynaudio], 8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, steel series multi color backlit KB

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MSI GS70 by PF T.J., on Flickr

But of course for that budget, you will be opened up to a few choices from Illegear as well  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Visited illegear s website and wow, I can get mac already hoho.

Illegear have so many options which makes me want the best..
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post Aug 28 2013, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Aug 28 2013, 12:28 AM)
I'm assuming you are referring to the ultrabay
Lenovo's Y400, Y410p, Y500 and Y510p has a bay which allows u to swap with other components like an extra fan, extra graphic card, optical drive in this case etc.
I get what you mean man haha, I'm having the same problem here LOL
So much I want, so little to spend  sad.gif  sad.gif
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I think I'll go with mac pro with retina display if I can squeeze my budget up to 7k, or else I'll just get the lenovo one and change a ssd. Ssd can put ultra bay?
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post Aug 28 2013, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(xproc @ Aug 28 2013, 12:56 AM)
yea.. budget can be squeezed... but if you can wait... wait for haswell refresh (very soon), i think processor, graphics, storage, battery, wifi...  all will upgraded but price still same...

facts about PCIe based flash storage
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What is haswell?


Edit: Oh it's okay I did my own research already.

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post Aug 29 2013, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(eddydo @ Aug 25 2013, 09:40 PM)
Hello everybody!

1.  Any reliable brand which last long and with good service and maintanance
2. Max rm3000 with everything covered.(ssd, ram upgrades and stuff)  Just a student and don't wanna burn my dad's wallet. But if there is a valuable upgrade i would top up.
3. Mainly photo and video editing.
4. Minimum 15".

Thanks smile.gif
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Okay so previously some sifu recommended:

If my budget is MAX rm3000,
Y510p, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GT750M(GDDR5) + (1920x1080)@RM3099[2.7kg], 8GB, 1TB, W8, red backlit, swappable ODD, 120w psu, 2 yrs

and

If my budget can push up to rm8000,
Macbook Pro Retina Display 15-inch.

So my question is that, is Illegear's laptop can be compared with Macbook?

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post Aug 29 2013, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Aug 29 2013, 01:39 PM)
I don't think you should burn your dad's pockets with the MacBook 15 Retina Display man lol... earn your own money for one later on nod.gif

Actually you can also go for an above-average notebook and an external monitor with good color reproductions (if your photo and video editing work is very serious) too. Still cheaper than the MBP 15  laugh.gif

Or just get an Illegear with the top screen upgrade, its a viable option as well nod.gif
Since I am also into photo editing (not video though tongue.gif), RAM > CPU > GPU. These are the main requirements (in that arrangement) for Photoshop. If I were you, I will go for an Illegear RE-15, upgrade the RAM to 16GB, opt for an SSD, warranty extension and of course, the screen upgrade.
Just my 2 cents  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thanks for the fast reply heh. I thought about the set up with above average notebook and external monitor, but i got a desktop already. So anyways, I guess i will stick with Lenovo 510p(right?) and only get it after the haswell refresh(right?)

OR

Illegear RE-15 with the upgrades you recommended.

Thanks for the help mate brows.gif
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post Aug 29 2013, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Aug 29 2013, 01:53 PM)
Lenovo Y510p is already running on Haswell mate lol nod.gif

Its entirely up to you since its your money and decision lol
The Illegear RE-15, with the mentioned upgrades, will be faster than the Y510p. But then of course you can make all those upgrades to the Y510p as well nod.gif

Personally I like being able to customize everything in my notebook, including the design and color of the lid! laugh.gif
THat makes the Illegear a better pick for me. It is really up to you  nod.gif
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I don't see lenovo Y510p in there webpage. I find Illegear poisoning me to get the best out of them haha...
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post Aug 29 2013, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(blackangel @ Aug 29 2013, 02:04 PM)
I would have clicked "LIKE" for this reply. Nowadays, gadget buyers have no idea what they are buying. Buying the best gadget out there and hardly produce anything significant that has the same level of processing requirements.

Another thing is, if one were so rich to splash, there is really no need to ask around here cause they usually have no budget constraint. Better save some money as gadgets phase out so fast... -.-

Just being harsh in general, no pointing icon_rolleyes.gif
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If I'm rich to splash, I won't be asking here according to you.
But that means the poor can't ask for the best?
And if that's so, why am I here?

Asking for the best gadget is to know where technology actually stand these days.
Not everyday people will tell you what is good and what is bad, and not everything is on google.
Asking is a form of learning, we are here to listen to people's opinion, experience and ask questions which we don't understand.

Some people here aren't contributing any useful informations, instead I assume they are doing a good job here flaming the rich.

Everyone do wants to get the best out of something, but in this case, budget is the restriction.
Let me make this clear, I'm not rich, my parents may be but who cares.
But if it is a worthwhile investment, why not go for the best?

Why do our parents want us to get into a good school?
Want us to get good grades to get into a good college.
Why do our parents want us to get into a good college?
To graduate as someone they could be proud of.
But will you use everything taught in school after you graduated?
Knowledge do expire or should I say, outdate.
But what if you don't like studying from the start? Will you even get good grades?

And again, why get a Ferarri?
What's the purpose of all these? Nothing. I just like it.

"Buying the best gadget out there and hardly produce anything significant that has the same level of processing requirements. Better save some money as gadgets phase out so fast"

So if gadgets phase out quickly, why do people still get the latest phones?
Take S4 as example,
Are you gonna use S Beam?
Most probably not, but why is the technology there in your phone?
Or why did you even buy that phone if you aren't fully utilizing the phone's ability? More else it's the phone's signature ability.

Sometimes it ain't about fully utilizing it.

I love editing video's. But I hate waiting.
Slow rendering time, wait time longer than usage time.
People say time is money.
You can't buy time with money.
But if you can get a laptop that only have short rendering time, why not?
That's like purchasing time already.

And for a newbie I do know what am I doing.

Just wondering what generation are you from, the Y generation? Or X or Z?
Well it doesn't matter anyways.

The reason I was looking into macbook pro was:
Retina display
Light weight compare to those big ass gaming laptops
Stability
I'm gonna emphasize on this a little.
I got a teacher which is in advertising industry.
He started off his business right after he graduated and invested in WINDOWS.
After that he changed all his computers into MAC.
WHY?
Windows keeps crashing.
I'm not sure about it now but i guess MAC a safer road to go in this particular industry and it's worth the investment.

You just wasted 3 minutes and 53 seconds on this.
Oh and I'm not pointing fingers, just replying your post with my own opinion. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Aug 29 2013, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Aug 29 2013, 06:33 PM)
Chill man, there will always be flame wars between Windows and Mac users one  icon_rolleyes.gif

But I think its better not to use so much of your parents money la haha, RM8k is quite a lot.

Since you are just starting out, stick to a "cheaper" notebook 1st (perhaps even the non-Retina Display MBP15 too), and trust me, along the way when you become more pro, you will know what you really need eventually (including programs, damn expensive). And by that time you will be able to really buy what you really need nod.gif

As mentioned earlier, my notebook is capable of handling my D800's 36MP images pretty swiftly (not 100% smooth though; I'm using an i7-2820QM, very powerful during its time, but not even close to the ones we have now). We often recommend buyers with "limited" budget to focus more on RAM, CPU and SSD. Those 3 will really bring about the difference  nod.gif 

As for stability, not really sure since I haven't been able to compare side-to-side. As for software compatibilities.. While I've been trying to get Nik Software plugins to work on my Photoshop and Lightroom. I've came across many Mac users also having the same problem. But that's probably because of the software, not the brand haha

The choice is yours  icon_rolleyes.gif
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You and a few other sifu gave me good advices and different situations, totally appreciate it. I know it is too early for mbp now so yeah i'm settling down on y510p( which i don't see on lenovo webpage?) or illegear ( which keeps on poisoning me with those specs).

Heh thanks smile.gif
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post Aug 31 2013, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Aug 29 2013, 09:54 PM)
Lenovo Y510p is selling already, its still somewhat new, and not shown on brochures yet brows.gif
Do refer here for more details: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2851949

The Illegear thread is here: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2613184
;you can PM Prince J or Mr. Docter for guidance in hardware customizations, they are kind, real pros  rclxms.gif

Good hunting mate!  rclxms.gif
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Hey I think I will be able to do most of my heavy video editing on my desktop. Now the main reason for the laptop is for photo editing. Can you suggest another or I stick with lenovo?

If it can be light then it's better

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