QUOTE(brian81st @ Sep 3 2013, 09:36 PM)
looking for 15.6" or 17", would prefer 17 "
mainly for autocad and some light gaming
budget below 4k, if got other option which is better bang for bucks, but slightly above 4k also can.
any brand
Unfortunately 17" notebooks are much more expensive

Closest would be these:
17.3"
MSI
GE70-2OE, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM4499,8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, backlit keyboard
GS70-2OC, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM4699[2.66kg][Dynaudio], 8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, steel series multi color backlit KB
Illegear Configure Illegear units here:
http://www.illegear.com/Illegear RE-17, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080)@RM3999[3.2kg][Onkyo, SoundBlaster Cinema], 8GB, 500GB 7200RPM, FreeDOS, [CPU Options: i7-4700MQ - i7-4900MQ]
As for 15.6 inchers:
Illegear Configure Illegear units here:
http://www.illegear.com/Illegear RE-15, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080)@RM3799[2.6kg][Onkyo, SoundBlaster Cinema], 8GB, 500GB 7200RPM, FreeDOS, [CPU Options: i7-4700MQ - i7-4900MQ]
Lenovo
Y510p, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GT750M(GDDR5) + (1920x1080)@RM3999[2.7kg], 8GB, 1TB, W8, red backlit, GN37 exGPU & ODD, 120w+170w psu, 2 yrs
MSI
GE60-2OE, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GTX765M + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM4299,8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, backlit keyboard