lol who the hell wanna fight those hero without backup. 1v2 sure dead la.

Ya. Demon edge is a bit hard to collect money. Show that S&Y provide increament in a balance manner. Really good to have a try.

Hmm sometime really impress when the non SA, bone player get holy shit. (heard that if SA and bone good in KS, can own easily). Ofcos , play with all noobs is not counted.
Really wanna watch 1 reply which VS can rule the game. But is not so possible bcos every of my game, i fast fast select VS, other ppl cannot select already.

ToGo, i'm at work now..........when i get back, i'll see if i can dig out a replay with VS using S&Y.......i'm not the one playing VS, friend is.......not sure if still have it.........if i do, i'll post it up.........

dun listen to him, sange yasha useless.
just buy the sange/yasha forgot which 1 di but add maim 1 enuf.

funky: sange adds maim (edited to reflect my noobness )

but why do you say it's useless to get S&Y?
i'm interested to know

This post has been edited by xtr4: May 11 2006, 04:59 PM

Sange (STR weapon) adds maim! Yasha adds speed!

wou really look interesting . funkyboi, what you mean that is get sange to increase health and maim only then save yasha money for other better item?
wow , if this really make sense, definately here could come out a strong VS guidance.

xtr4, thanks you 1st for the reply and guidance
Hopefully 1 day after i master those technique, can have a game with u then.

if u just get sange.. your chances of maim is 5%
if get sange and yasha... chances is 10%


besides, yasha is good too.. it increases your attack speed and movement speed..
good for chasing hero

are u plain nut or just never read about item description . sange & yasha is one heck good item if u know the use of it . +movement speed +attack speed +maim is certainly a good item for chasing / killing hero. not to mention this item adds life ( strength ) + armor ( agility ) as well .

i buy sange only, you dont have much money for them.
the 10% attack speed+movement no worth it.
if me i get hand of midas, sange, bkb(must), other money i save for mkb. then buy a power thread.
hom+thread=55% attack speed.
if its a 1 hour game then you get this item also almost end game.

5% and 10% maim no much diff, see luck only.sometimes i 2 hit maim edi come out.

^dude, yasha increases attack speed, the more and faster you attack the more chances for you to get maim into effect, no to say when you got the yasha and sange scroll and combine them together, the effects are much greater.

Here's why:

Yasha
Shop: Level 2
Description:
+16 Agility
+5% incr movement speed
+5% incr attack speed.

Recipe:
Blade of Alacrity - 1000 gold
Boots of Elvenskin - 450 gold
Yasha Recipe Scroll - 600 gold

Total Cost: 2050


Sange
Shop: Level 2
Description:
+16 Strength
+5 Damage
Effect: Maim
5% chance, +30 dmg
-20% attack speed
-30% movement speed for 5 sec
Orb effects do not stack

Recipe:
Belt of Giant Strength - 450 gold
Ogre Axe - 1000 gold
Sange Recipe Scroll - 600 gold

Total Cost: 2050


Sange and Yasha
Shop: Level 3
Description:
+16 Agility
+16 Strength
+16 Damage
+10% incr movement speed, +10% incr attack speed
Effect: Maim
10% chance, -35% attack speed
-35% movement speed for 6 sec
Orb effects do not stack

Yasha - 2050 gold
Sange - 2050 gold
Sange and Yasha Recipe Scroll - 1000 gold

Total Cost: 5100

And some added info: In dota v6 1 agility = 1% increase of attack speed
so once you get YnS all together you'll have an extra 16% agi + an extra increase of 10% attack speed. WIth added more percentage of maim(10%) for 6 seconds.

So in conclusion, this item rocks your socks. Hope this info helps

Lol, this is like getting 2 hammers but dont want to get the deso scroll

somehow for certain hero that already have its own orb effect spell , like ursa , weaver...it is sometimes nice to pair with yasha , adding attack speed / damage and movement speed

er...
i play skadi vs..... treads, 2 wraith band and skadi, well it takes me to lvl 14-16 to get it... but after that vs is a very scary hero... for attack speed farm for hyper, when u manage to get skadi it's not hard to get hyper stone... trust
me

chypher: skadi is a good item to get, but i would still recommend S&Y for beginners/mid players (farming ability) for it's relative ease of getting...

why i say so because of the 'difficulty' to save money for the ulti orbs (for the newer players)......getting axe (1000) + [belt (450) + scroll (600)] is easier than getting ulti orb (2300) at one go......

note: that above description is for relative newer players who have difficulty with farming....

cheers

oops... sorry my bad, but vs aura helps too arent it?

yeap command aura is one of the best auras in dota...
sny is a great beginners item coz its ez to get & it grants good hp n attk speed. highly recommended for ppl who struggle saving for expensive items like d edge, ulti ord, eaglehorn...
usually my item build for vs is basilus(for mana regen & armor), threads, mkb, hyper & if game havent end, burize. couple dmg items with command aura thn its gg ahaha

Hmm...sny is a good item.Maybe you can try on butterfly.It gives evasion and increases attack speed too!

For VS, get diffusal blade. Got purge and stun and swap enemy cannot run away. Get a vitality booster for hp. 3000+1100=4100gold.