Hi Guys,

I like VS very much. VS is the only hero I use in DOTA.
Level 7 VS is very strong.
But after that at the middle game to the late game, I find that VS is very difficult to kill ppl due to her low hp. He die very fast.

After getting 2 wrath band, boot of speed(Issit worth to get power trend?,find that VS attack speed pretty slow, abit difficult to farm), ring of balista , normally I will build lothar edge. But what I discover that Dothar edge is good but still not give me enough damage to kill 1 on 1. I just able to kill by hidding behind my team hero. Need to wait until I got burize, only can come out 1 on 1. But that time still suffer for low hp matter.

I got fren suggest me BKB, but is no point to get BKB and lothar edge.
Got any1 can give me better build item idea for VS?

This post has been edited by ToGo: May 11 2006, 10:43 AM

go for sange and yasha.....gives hp, attack speed, move speed bonus: relatively easy to farm too

then you can move on mkb or butterfly.....

early farming, try to get hand of midas if you're having difficulty farming......it also helps attack speed

hope this helps

hmm.. Vs is weak is hp... i guess u have to follow your teamates and backup them with your stun and swap... Y dun u try adding stats to add your life? Or if you wan more hp, you can try farming Eye of Skadi...

Bkb is good.. At least you wont take dmg from magical spell... is good to avoid from getting stun or frost skill xD

Or you can try getting sange yasha and linken too.. btw, your talking about V6 VS or V5 VS??

same here~~ build sange and yasha~~~

power thread is essential to me in using VS as the movement speed is kinda...

Both Ver5 and Ver6 I also play on VS. Mostly play V6
Much different?


Ya. I know VS always need to hide behind tanker.
I love swap, don't like to always keep behind.
But swap danger me alot of time, thats y i build lother edge for me to run.
I come to a situation is when my team mate good, and team work, I have great performance.

Mostly , I din add stat. Common Auro will help my team alot. So I focus that 1st. I don't mind i will none. I just want to make sure my team mate kill the opponent. That y i feel swap is pretty cool. Alot of time, for those team mate who dunno how to react to my swap, always risk me. I calculate the way to kill a hero by me and teammate attack same time. If can kill then i swap. But alot of time, the team mate din react or some even run away pulak. Then I die buta.

But when they not in the style for me, then suck. At level 7, I still can solo to kill. Once reach lv15, damn, mostly i just stun to run when solo until I come out with burize.
I got try on eye of skadi, yup, got improve my overall stat but can't give me damage which i need to kill. So I still prefer burize.


So u guys suggest me to give up lother edge and take sange yasha , then direct go into denfend item like bkb or damage item like mkb,butterfly , burize?

i tell u wat... if v6...
u buy aegis... ofcoz boot and some cheap item like gg branch
then buy armor +10 then build aegis... depends u can farm o not lo... coz some ppl need dmg item to boost farming... but actually vs got command aura is quite easy to farm d...

Beside, VS always the 1st target to be kill in team fight due to low hp and also the support ability such as comman aura and stun for VS.

When farming, they also always target VS to harrass and spam.
Alot of time, my VS die alot and kill few is not bcos of my ability. Bcos I always be the target to kill. Besides, my role is support, swap or stun for other team mate to kill. Those teammate who not understand will cry out me feed. Shit. They never think that is bcos of thier fault of dunno how to protect VS and support VS.

I also remember got 1 time, I stun for a luna to ulti qop, then luna din do it besides qop. she run to my back then only ulti,bcos of this, qop run away. this really funny.

have you tried Deso?

i would like to share my playing style here for vs.. if opponent got INT hero, i would go for
BKB 1st then i will get dmg item like Deso or burize...

mostly i learn 1st , 3rd and ulti skill then i up my stats(ignore 2nd skill)... by the time im lvl 15 i will get around 1.4k hp.. good enuf for me thou...

its good to follow wit your teamates if they are using stun hero too.. nice combo

try to swap lion, see he give u die or not.
u swap him, before you stun him he edi hex you.
then give you a few hit b4 impale and ulti, you confirm aiskrim.

your personal skill sux, nuff said. vs is a powerful hero, see those agi and int hero you 1 on 1 lane with them spam stun they edi cannot tahan.

I got struggle with Deso and burize also,
But i din really use Deso. Bcos, when I use burize, the critical damge provided for VS is pretty impressive. That y I mention, when i fast enough to get burize, I can stand there 1 on 1 with strengh hero already, else b4 that, mustly have to run.

buy aegis only la... vs should play as support ma...
swap one die one...
if u got aegis can tahan...

This post has been edited by dennis5585: May 11 2006, 12:07 PM

I din mention that VS is weak.
I also know that VS is a killer that is y I say at level 7 is a great.
Like you mention, swap lion, y dont u say swap rastha as well? see his ward kill u or not?
Of cos u spam stun hero on 1 on 1 lane they sure go home, but what if 2 hero focus spam on u? of cos u have to hide cos VS cannot tahan spam.

Here is discussing how to make VS not so easy to die at the middle to late game.

I know that you are a pro. But I am not. Of cos I can't compete with you 1 on 1 directly. Thats y I seeking help here. If I am pro enough, I don't need to seek for help here. I will seek for you to kill. Is not wise to say ppl skill sux. Every pro also start from noob. Agree?

I like to support, ppl who willing to support behind will only only bring out a great team work.
I like your idea,
I will try tonite.
Then swap will become the fearest ultimate

lol yeah..u need skills.. u need to farm nice.. since u got your 3rd skill to help you to farm.. then it should'nt be a problem for getting deso or burize...

haha true true.. we are noobs once before we become pro..

yeah support hero is good.. besides.. VS is not a tanker hero >_>
support your teamate will be good enuf...

ToGo: just ignore him (funkyboi).....as mentioned earlier, S&Y gives you HP (Str) and boosts damage (Agi) and attack speed, so that's the choice item for most play styles for VS
another thing, getting S&Y >> burize early game because of the above mentioned stats it adds

This post has been edited by xtr4: May 11 2006, 12:30 PM

boi, plz dont act like flizzardo . i know u a good guy.

VS was the only ranged hero who can stun from range as well. This works ultimately to his advantage cause he can attack right away after stunning, instead of going close. This alone makes VS very strong and should own. Had never used VS in LAN games before, but VS had always own. And I think the suggestions here are very good. Perhaps I could use some myself.

wtf.
im good boy ok.
vs i always train him for tournament and he say its weak, means his skill sux la.
2 hero in your lan then your teamate dunno do anything?
u try vs and rhasta walk see who dare come
swap stun hex shackle snake.