go for sange and yasha.....gives hp, attack speed, move speed bonus: relatively easy to farm too

then you can move on mkb or butterfly.....

early farming, try to get hand of midas if you're having difficulty farming......it also helps attack speed

hope this helps

ToGo: just ignore him (funkyboi).....as mentioned earlier, S&Y gives you HP (Str) and boosts damage (Agi) and attack speed, so that's the choice item for most play styles for VS
another thing, getting S&Y >> burize early game because of the above mentioned stats it adds

This post has been edited by xtr4: May 11 2006, 12:30 PM

ToGo, i'm at work now..........when i get back, i'll see if i can dig out a replay with VS using S&Y.......i'm not the one playing VS, friend is.......not sure if still have it.........if i do, i'll post it up.........

funky: sange adds maim (edited to reflect my noobness )

but why do you say it's useless to get S&Y?
i'm interested to know

This post has been edited by xtr4: May 11 2006, 04:59 PM

chypher: skadi is a good item to get, but i would still recommend S&Y for beginners/mid players (farming ability) for it's relative ease of getting...

why i say so because of the 'difficulty' to save money for the ulti orbs (for the newer players)......getting axe (1000) + [belt (450) + scroll (600)] is easier than getting ulti orb (2300) at one go......

note: that above description is for relative newer players who have difficulty with farming....

cheers

lol by the time you get dagon, you can probably kill the int hero before you can dagon.....

ToGo......last night i think i played a game with you.......
you were using VS right? Going for deso build right?
Good character control, but still need a little tweaking for micro......overall nice game
but i think you should've gone S&Y build instead.......your health still a bit on the low side.....

Game On.....

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@ToGo

I was on opponent (Sentinel), you were Scourge side.
I randomed SA My team won

But i think S&Y easier to get than Deso, here's my points:
S&Y
Ogre Axe (1000) + Belt of Giant Str (450) + Scroll (600) = 2050 (Gives HP, Maim Ability)
Blade of Alacrity (1000) + Boots of Elvenskin (450) + Scroll (600) = 2050 (Gives Dmg, Atack Speed, Move Speed)
S&Y Scroll = 1000 (Improves Sange and Yasha abilities)

Deso
Mithril Hammer = 1610 (Dmg Only)
Mithril Hammer = 1610 (Dmg Only)
Scroll = 1500 (-6 armor reduction)

But to complement Deso build, you're gonna need bracers for HP:
Bracer = 510 x 2 = 1020

Given the above, that's why i recommend S&Y to you for easier farming because you don't have to save up to 1610 for the hammers. In the S&Y build, the most you need is 1000 to start buying items and enjoying the benefits.

Just my 2 sens

Naga is weak to harass early game.....VS can still hold her own.........
If you already know the weaknesses of the hero, try to find counters to overcome these setbacks......because your opponent sure will exploit.......

Deso still a deadly item, depends on the hero i.e. Slardar (Deso + Ulti), Shadow Fiend (Deso + Aura)

Back to topic:
LE on VS is nice for swapping heros and not getting killed........
Means that even though the opponents are walking in groups, you still can easily swap + kill one of their heros......

i guess we must learn from the pro from the SMM tourney......apparently he could farm for an aegis (4400) @ lvl 9 only

i would join, but i'll be up in genting for the chivas rave